It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[Mashmont]

No that's gravity...not morals. Lol

All god's laws work the same way. You violate them, certain things happen. Some good, some bad. Just perhaps not as obvious.

 

[AsherN]

And you think that's perfect?

Yes, why not. Worked for them. Perfectly moral at the time.

 

[Vegasgiants]

All god's laws work the same way. You violate them, certain things happen. Some good, some bad. Just perhaps not as obvious.

In your opinion only. Which is wrong

 

[AsherN]

All god's laws work the same way. You violate them, certain things happen. Some good, some bad. Just perhaps not as obvious.

Talk to a Buddhist...

 

[Mashmont]

There is no good concept of slavery.

It might be OK for some. In Jesus' day it was a last resort for people or families who couldn't pay their debt. it was better than being killed or tortured over the debt. It was a way for their families to stay alive and fed.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Torah tried to mitigate with rules on how to treat a slave, but slaves acquired by conquering anther nation were still slaves.

Yes they were

 

[Vegasgiants]

It might be OK for some. In Jesus' day it was a last resort for people or families who couldn't pay their debt. it was better than being killed or tortured over the debt. It was a way for their families to stay alive and fed.

Most slaves were not debtors

 

[Mashmont]

In your opinion only. Which is wrong

Prove my statement which you call an opinion is wrong.

 

[AsherN]

It might be OK for some. In Jesus' day it was a last resort for people or families who couldn't pay their debt. it was better than being killed or tortured over the debt. It was a way for their families to stay alive and fed.

In the time of Jesus, following Torah, that was a fixed term form if indentured servitude. Not the same as slavery of the conquered people. And while moral at the time, it no longer is.

 

[Mashmont]

Most slaves were not debtors

So you agree some were, then?

 

[Mashmont]

In the time of Jesus, following Torah, that was a fixed term form if indentured servitude. Not the same as slavery of the conquered people. And while moral at the time, it no longer is.

Exactly my point. Your post must be for Vegas. He disagrees with that.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Prove my statement which you call an opinion is wrong.

You made the claim. I dont have to prove it wrong you have to prove it right

 

[Vegasgiants]

So you agree some were, then?

So you agree most were not?

 

[AsherN]

Exactly my point. Your post must be for Vegas. He disagrees with that.

Morality evolves. Both form of slavery in your perfect Jesus' time were moral then. It no longer is. And the shift in that morality post dates Jesus by a wide margin.

 

[Mashmont]

You made the claim. I dont have to prove it wrong you have to prove it right

I proved it correct by giving examples. You ignored the examples and repeated the same claim, that I was incorrect. Now the burden is on you.

 

[Mashmont]

Morality evolves. Both form of slavery in your perfect Jesus' time were moral then. It no longer is. And the shift in that morality post dates Jesus by a wide margin.

No, 'slavery' does not demonstrate evolution of morality. It's a difference in the acts that we call slavery.

 

[Vegasgiants]

I proved it correct by giving examples. You ignored the examples and repeated the same claim, that I was incorrect. Now the burden is on you.

You gave zero examples of proof or even evidence

 

[Mashmont]

So you agree most were not?

You ridiculed the notion of 'good' slavery. I gave examples of some that were not that bad, considering the alternative. Now you're changing the subject.

 

[AsherN]

No, 'slavery' does not demonstrate evolution of morality. It's a difference in the acts that we call slavery.

The concept of owning a human being to do as you wish was moral. It no longer is. Or are you arguing that owning another person is still a moral act today?

 

[AsherN]

You ridiculed the notion of 'good' slavery. I gave examples of some that were not bad. Now you're changing the subject.

They were not good.