Judge Reverses Order Forcing Hospital To Give Ivermectin To COVID-19 Patient

[beagle9]

This is serious politically-motivated stuff. Ivermectin physically attaches to the virus in vitro, scientific fact. Though not even Merck would have cahones the size to suggest that it does not do the same thing in vivo.

No professional on this sort of stuff what-so-ever, but you sure make some convincing arguments for sure. Hard to follow all your medical terminology or word's spoken, so I wouldn't know if you were wrong or right, but it sure sounds convincing.

 

[RodISHI]

Yes Merck is lying because if it's one thing they hate the most, it's making more money.

Putting a jinx on their new therapy drugs in the works surely would not be motive to lie now would it?

Merck Shutters COVID-19 Vaccine Programs, Shifts Focus to Therapeutics

Merck announced that it is going to stop developing its two COVID-19 vaccine candidates, dubbed V590 and V591, after poor responses in Phase I trials.

www.biospace.com

Drug repurposing screens identify chemical entities for the development of COVID-19 interventions - Nature Communications

Here, the authors perform repurposing screens of the ReFRAME drug library in two cell lines and identify inhibitors of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Antiviral activity of prodrug MK-4482 is confirmed in hamsters.

www.nature.com

 

[RodISHI]

Oh so your take is that there is no such thing as mal-practice or mistakes made in type of treatment's, otherwise when dealing with something new like this ???? I've had various opinions given that the ventilator's caused more harm than good early on, but maybe they've finally gotten a better understanding of how they are best to be used in the situation's now.

How many people have died at home without ventilator help or doctor treatments during the pandemic ?? Any stats on that number yet ??

Trump wanted a travel bans while Pelosi and company wanted the hug a Chinese in China day. Yes, because you know that Trump was just being a racist bigot right ???

Well watch and weep as the explanation of how plagues move about the earth, yet I'm the dumb one eh ??

Its the meds they give them while in that induced coma that damages the Kidneys and ultimately shuts down the rest of the organs via the toxicity.

 

[beagle9]

Its the meds they give them while in that induced coma that damages the Kidneys and ultimately shuts down the rest of the organs via the toxicity.

Trump got some kind of medicine called regeneron when he was Covid sick, and he said he wanted to get it to where we could get that drug or treatment also, but crickets after they successfully screwed him out of his presidency. The left may have fountain's of blood on it's hands, but they seem to just roll it off of their backs like a duck sheds water.

 

[beagle9]

Its the meds they give them while in that induced coma that damages the Kidneys and ultimately shuts down the rest of the organs via the toxicity.

I know a person that died due to kidney failure while on the ventilator for Covid. A shame to, because he should still be here at his age. Hard to promote or trust the ventilator part of any treatment, but what do I know ? Not much really, but it's all weird stuff going on it seems.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

It's being looked into. So far, the quality data has not shown an effect.

McMaster TOGETHER Trial: Ivermectin a No Show While Fluvoxamine Shows Some Promise

Recently, McMaster University's Professor Ed Mills, principal investigator of the Together trial, highlighted interim analysis results evidencing no impact of ivermectin and some other repurposed study drugs while pointing to some promise for Fluvoxamine. TOGETHER is a randomized, Adaptive...

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You cherry picked the shit out of that...lol

 

[RodISHI]

I know a person that died due to kidney failure while on the ventilator for Covid. A shame to, because he should still be here at his age. Hard to promote or trust the ventilator part of any treatment, but what do I know ? Not much really, but it's all weird stuff going on it seems.

I can't recall the doctor's last name but his first was Bryan and he's in Texas. He started looking into deaths after patients dying that shouldn't have on vents and that is what he discovered. The meds they are giving are killing them or damaging the Kidneys so bad they die shortly after. He was very detail in his reporting on how the doctors were going by CDC recommendations.

Pretty sure I posted that all here someone on this forum along with the CDC and FDA links.

 

[RodISHI]

beagle9 Found him. Bryan Ardis is his name. You are being redirected...

Links to video interview at link

 

[colfax_m]

I can't recall the doctor's last name but his first was Bryan and he's in Texas. He started looking into deaths after patients dying that shouldn't have on vents and that is what he discovered. The meds they are giving are killing them or damaging the Kidneys so bad they die shortly after. He was very detail in his reporting on how the doctors were going by CDC recommendations.

Pretty sure I posted that all here someone on this forum along with the CDC and FDA links.

Sure. He said he on the internet so it’s definitely true.

 

[badger2]

We’ll note that Dr. John Campbell on youtube, circa 6 Jan 2021, glosses over the crucial in vitro-in vivo consequences at timepoint 2:46 in his video. This video was made after the Sep 2020 report showing the docking of ivermectin to SARS-CoV-2? Did Campbell even know about this scientific fact? Because if he had, there would certainly be some hesitation at timepoint 2:46:

Dr. John Campbell on Ivermectin


In addition, he dangerously glosses over the lactation contraindications for ivermectin, in particular due to the connections to lactate-dehydrogenase-elevating nidovirus (LDV). In fact, if the Indians are correct in suggesting that SARS-CoV-2’s most ancient ancestor is porcine PRRSV (and indeed, Ivermectin does work against it), then the evolution of LDV figures into the origins hypothesis for PRRSV, according to Plagemann (University of Minnesota).

 

[badger2]

beagle9 Found him. Bryan Ardis is his name. You are being redirected...

Links to video interview at link

View attachment 536460

Ivermectin protease inhibition vs. remdesivir:

Egypt

CoViTris2020 and ChloViD2020: a striking new hope in COVID-19 therapy - PubMed

Designing anticoronavirus disease 2019 (anti-COVID-19) agents is the primary concern of medicinal chemists/drug designers nowadays. Repurposing of known active compounds against the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is a new effective and time-saving trend in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

’....extremely higher potencies....more potent than remdesivir and favipiravir....asp623, ser682, arg553, lys621, lys798, tyr619.’

 

[badger2]

The Egyptian report above, shows uridylate-specific endoribonuclease (NendoU). Gill-associated virus of shrimp (GAV) also has this NendoU, located in pp1ab. When we examine the precise amino acid sequences for NendoU of SARS-CoV-2 (positions 6453-6798) we note the differences in comparison to others:

SARS-CoV-2 sequence: SLENVAFNVVNKGHFDGQ
SARS-CoV sequence: SLENVAYNVVNKGHFDGQ

The only difference is the phenylalanine/tyrosine at position 7. Without mutating, position 501 of SARS-CoV spike is F (phenylalanine), though SARS-CoV-2 spike mutation at that position is N501Y, which is considered a major SARS-CoV-2 mutation.

So, Wuhan’s Zheng-Li Shi’s (2006) report for white spot syndrome of shrimp (WSSV) indeed links to a nidovirus of shrimp, of which the coronaviruses are members:

’Sequence alignments of the region downstream of the helicase indicate that the okavirus pp1ab also possesses 3’-to-5’ exonuclease, uridylate-specific endoribonuclease, and a C-terminal ribose-O-methyltransferase (2’-O-MT) motifs, which, in coronaviruses, have been shown to be essential to RNA synthesis and progeny virus production.’
(Cowley and Walker, Roniviruses, in Nidoviruses, ASM Press [2008])

 

[badger2]

Closer scrutiny of the Egyptian report, above, for the two agents compare ivermectin, and reveal pertinent amino acid connections (such as ivermectin’s binding to tyrosine Y103 of the SARS-CoV-2 spike): Y619. Comparisons in the study link vitamin C, blackberry hydroquinones, and interestingly, one of the agents contains a chlorine atom similar to hydroxychloroquine. In addition, starter compounds include gallic acid, found in plants (epigallocatechin gallate is proven against SARS-CoV-2 in vitro).

CoViTris2020 and ChloViD2020: a striking new hope in COVID-19 therapy - PubMed

Designing anticoronavirus disease 2019 (anti-COVID-19) agents is the primary concern of medicinal chemists/drug designers nowadays. Repurposing of known active compounds against the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is a new effective and time-saving trend in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

’....ChloViD2020 is also characterized by its unique interraction forces created between its chlorine atom and residues Lys417 and Asp418 of chain A. CoviTris2020 is a tribustituted, or three-armed bulky derivative of citric acid.’

 

[badger2]

But the Egyptian report, above, never mentions (nematodes [italics]), even though the lead compounds in that report are derivatives of 1,3,4-oxadiazole:

2018 China: Nematocidal Activity of the 1,3,4-Oxadiazole Moiety

Novel bisthioether derivatives containing a 1,3,4-oxadiazole moiety: design, synthesis, antibacterial and nematocidal activities - PubMed

A series of novel bisthioether derivatives containing a 1,3,4-oxadiazole moiety were synthesized and bioassay results showed that compound 4f exhibited the best antibacterial and nematocidal activities. © 2017 Society of Chemical Industry.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[badger2]

So why isn’t the ivermectin being infused in the ventilator?

Sep 2020 Brooklyn-Chicago / Influenza

Ivermectin: A Closer Look at a Potential Remedy - PubMed

Amid the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) pandemic, the search for effective treatment and vaccines has been exponentially on the rise. Finding effective treatment has been the core of attention of many scientific reports and antivirals are in the center of those...

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Ivermectin’s nematocidal activity links to lobsters and crayfish:

(1979) Rockefeller University, New York / Avermectin / Lobster Neuromuscular Junction

Avermectin B1a irreversibly blocks postsynaptic potentials at the lobster neuromuscular junction by reducing muscle membrane resistance - PubMed

Avermectin B1a, a macrocyclic lactone with broad spectrum anthelmintic activity, affects neuromuscular transmission in the lobster stretcher muscle. Perfusion of the muscle with 1-10 microgram of the drug per ml eliminates inhibitory postsynaptic potentials within a few minutes. Intracellularly...

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’....Avermectin B1a blocks the firing of the crayfish stretch receptor neuron and this block is also reversed by picrotoxin.....Muscle preparations from Ascaris lumbricoides....suggest that AVM indeed increases the permeability to Cl- and not K+....even between lobster and closely related crayfish, differences in the relative permeability of the GABA channel to foreign anions have been documented.’

 

[woodwork201]

Well it looks like the judge was overruled by a higher up judge thus the difficulty of a judge determining what doctors should prescribe.

Merck, which manufactures the drug, issued a statement in February affirming its position that there’s no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from ivermectin. The company also noted a “concerning lack of safety data” in the majority of studies.”

Sounds like a lawyer written statement but if they don't know then they don't know and they are not going to risk saying it works.

So judges and politicians are qualified to tell us what not to take, and what doctors cannot even mention, let alone prescribe, but they're not qualified to order a doctor to give something to a patient that the patient wants and is known to not be high risk to take?

 

[badger2]

If it was in Jeffrey Smith’s ventilator, Smith might live.

 

[Kilroy2]

So judges and politicians are qualified to tell us what not to take, and what doctors cannot even mention, let alone prescribe, but they're not qualified to order a doctor to give something to a patient that the patient wants and is known to not be high risk to take?

Politicians can legislate and judges can uphold the law.

When it comes to medicine only doctors should be able to prescribe medicine. That is why they have really good insurance for medical malpractice. Judges don't have insurance.

The one judge made a ruling which he should not have. It was obviously not based on law but on an emotional opinion. The other judge said that he should not have made that ruling and overturned it.

So it is a matter between the patient and the doctor. If he does not agree then look for one that will. If a doctor says use this and then gives you all the facts and possibilities it is still your decision to proceed or refuse. IF your totally lost reality then hopefully there is someone who can speak for you

 

[beagle9]

Politicians can legislate and judges can uphold the law.

When it comes to medicine only doctors should be able to prescribe medicine. That is why they have really good insurance for medical malpractice. Judges don't have insurance.

The one judge made a ruling which he should not have. It was obviously not based on law but on an emotional opinion. The other judge said that he should not have made that ruling and overturned it.

So it is a matter between the patient and the doctor. If he does not agree then look for one that will. If a doctor says use this and then gives you all the facts and possibilities it is still your decision to proceed or refuse. IF your totally lost reality then hopefully there is someone who can speak for you

So one judge ordered the freedom that would allow the patient to receive the medicine, and the other judge reversed the order that granted the freedom given by the 1st judge ???? I'm confused.

 

[badger2]

The report in post #73 for the two anti-SARS-CoV-2 compounds mention gallic acid as starter material. Nipah virus vector bat feeds on the fruits of Rambutan tree. Its chemistry contains geraniin and one report shows the locations on the SARS-CoV-2 spike where it attaches. Satoshi Omura, discoverer of ivermectin, first used it on a parasite of mice, Heligmosomoides. Here we link that parasite to malaria and the two compounds just mentioned:

Cameroon: Geraniin-Gallic Acid / Plasmodium

In vitro activity of extracts and isolated polyphenols from West African medicinal plants against Plasmodium falciparum - PubMed

The aim of the study was to screen 11 selected traditional medicinal plants from West Africa for their in vitro antiplasmodial activity in order to determine the activity of single and of combination of plant extracts and to examine the activity of isolated pure compounds. Ethanolic and aqueous...

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Feb 2019 National Institute of Health / USDA: Heligmosomoides / Plasmodium Vaccine

Chronic helminth infection does not impair immune response to malaria transmission blocking vaccine Pfs230D1-EPA/Alhydrogel® in mice - PubMed

Pfs230D1-EPA/Alhydrogel® efficacy is not impaired by a chronic helminth infection in mice.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There is clearly more to learn about natural compounds against pathogens and vaccine development.