Judge Sullivan Scrambles For A Lifeline To Bail HIMSELF Out Of Dropped Flynn Case

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Judge Sullivan can sentence him if he wants and there's nothing Flynn can do about it other than wait for Impeached Trump to pardon him.

He can appeal.

And what do you think the higher courts or the SCOTUS is going to do with this case when they see Sullivan ignored their recent decisions?

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[Faun]

The only person looking for a lifeline here is Flynn. He's pissed this judge off something royal and so has barr.

The judge has oversteppped his authority. He can't do anything to Flynn now.

An idiot ^^^ chimes in.

This isn't Sullivan's first dance. He's been through this before and did pretty much the same thing as this time. Sullivan is experienced and knows more than you. Infinitely more than you.

What can he do to Flynn?

He has options. He can vacate his guilty plea. He can charge Flynn with contempt for lying to his court. He can sentence for lying to the FBI.

So, forget the Flynn case for a moment.

You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?

Think about that for a bit. If this becomes the precedent, will ANYONE ever plead guilty again? Will ANYONE ever answer this question in the affirmative: "Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty and for no other reason?" This will have a SERIOUS cooling effect on guilty pleas and will at least triple the number of criminal cases going to trial.

You hate Trump so much, that you are willing to go THAT FAR???

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"You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?"

No, I'm not ok with that and I already said as much.

 

[Faun]

Judge Sullivan can sentence him if he wants and there's nothing Flynn can do about it other than wait for Impeached Trump to pardon him.

He can appeal.

And what do you think the higher courts or the SCOTUS is going to do with this case when they see Sullivan ignored their recent decisions?

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LOL

He's trying that now.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The only person looking for a lifeline here is Flynn. He's pissed this judge off something royal and so has barr.

The judge has oversteppped his authority. He can't do anything to Flynn now.

An idiot ^^^ chimes in.

This isn't Sullivan's first dance. He's been through this before and did pretty much the same thing as this time. Sullivan is experienced and knows more than you. Infinitely more than you.

What can he do to Flynn?

He has options. He can vacate his guilty plea. He can charge Flynn with contempt for lying to his court. He can sentence for lying to the FBI.

So, forget the Flynn case for a moment.

You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?

Think about that for a bit. If this becomes the precedent, will ANYONE ever plead guilty again? Will ANYONE ever answer this question in the affirmative: "Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty and for no other reason?" This will have a SERIOUS cooling effect on guilty pleas and will at least triple the number of criminal cases going to trial.

You hate Trump so much, that you are willing to go THAT FAR???

.

"You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?"

No, I'm not ok with that and I already said as much.

You're only OK with it if it's Flynn, right?

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[ThoughtCrimes]

Judge Sulliven was right when he accused Flynn of being treasonous. Glad he is taking the time to consider this at least.

OK... since you think that... aside from the MOUNTAIN of evidence showing Flynn was SET UP, and that ALL those who set him up gave closed door testimony that they had NOTHING ON HIM... show us your PROOF that Flynn COMMITTED TREASON... should we wait long for your proof or just call you a MORON now?

OK... since you think that... aside from the MOUNTAIN of evidence showing Flynn was SET UP, and that ALL those who set him up gave closed door testimony that they had NOTHING ON HIM...

Pitiful recall you have there. Flynn plead guilty in open court to two counts of perjury of his own will during the sentencing. There was no setup you bloody fool...Judge Sullivan gave Flynn every opportunity to correct ANY error.

If you or others wish to read the Court sentencing proceedings and see for your own ignorant self that Flynn AND HIS FOUR LAWYERS accepted the charges, accepted the verdict, accepted Flynn was not entrapped by the FBI and Flynn took responsibility for lying to the FBI, acknowledging the FBI had given him full warning that if he lied to the FBI he would be committing a felony. Read the transcript here ~~ https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/121818am-USA-v-Michael-Flynn-Sentencing.pdf ~~

Your 'black helicopter' full of a "MOUNTAIN of evidence showing Flynn was SET UP" crashed with no fucking survivors. It's a pile of propaganda fit only for the unwashed mewling sycophants of the Orange Clown. Read the sentencing document linked above so you'll have at least one side of truth because you ain't gonna get the truth from a pile of Trump propaganda!

 

[Faun]

The only person looking for a lifeline here is Flynn. He's pissed this judge off something royal and so has barr.

The judge has oversteppped his authority. He can't do anything to Flynn now.

An idiot ^^^ chimes in.

This isn't Sullivan's first dance. He's been through this before and did pretty much the same thing as this time. Sullivan is experienced and knows more than you. Infinitely more than you.

What can he do to Flynn?

He has options. He can vacate his guilty plea. He can charge Flynn with contempt for lying to his court. He can sentence for lying to the FBI.

So, forget the Flynn case for a moment.

You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?

Think about that for a bit. If this becomes the precedent, will ANYONE ever plead guilty again? Will ANYONE ever answer this question in the affirmative: "Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty and for no other reason?" This will have a SERIOUS cooling effect on guilty pleas and will at least triple the number of criminal cases going to trial.

You hate Trump so much, that you are willing to go THAT FAR???

.

"You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?"

No, I'm not ok with that and I already said as much.

You're only OK with it if it's Flynn, right?

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Nope, as stated, I already said I feel it's wrong.

 

[colfax_m]

The prosecution can hardly claim that is immaterial, even though they (comically) did so right before moving to dismiss the case.

It is immaterial. It has nothing to do with the facts of the case.

 

[mudwhistle]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

 

[colfax_m]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

Someone’s imagination is going crazy today.

 

[Faun]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

every day....and twice if the moon is full!~

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

Mud, that is the most incredibly stupid fucking bundle of horseshit I've read today!

-- Withholding evidence did not force Flynn to lie to the FBI = Stupid!
-- "The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him" = Stupid!
-- "If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon" = Stupid!

Flynn Lied to the FBI...at least twice. If you want to learn something, here is the link to Flynn's sentencing hearing where you can read Flynn admit he LIED to the FBI and his attorneys were fine with all aspects of the full proceedings. Starton pg 8 for Flynn!
~~ https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/121818am-USA-v-Michael-Flynn-Sentencing.pdf ~~

 

[dudmuck]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

what does it say about Flynn's attorneys if they had him plead guilty, and affirm that guilty plea, when according to Barr there was never anything to go on? the firm representing Flynn wasn't a bottom of the barrel kind of operation.

 

[mudwhistle]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

what does it say about Flynn's attorneys if they had him plead guilty, and affirm that guilty plea, when according to Barr there was never anything to go on? the firm representing Flynn wasn't a bottom of the barrel kind of operation.

From what I've read.....Flynn's original attorneys were corrupt and worked with prosecutors from the corrupt DOJ.
He fired them and his new attorney found that the DOJ set him up.

 

[colfax_m]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

what does it say about Flynn's attorneys if they had him plead guilty, and affirm that guilty plea, when according to Barr there was never anything to go on? the firm representing Flynn wasn't a bottom of the barrel kind of operation.

From what I've read.....Flynn's original attorneys were corrupt and worked with prosecutors from the corrupt DOJ.
He fired them and his new attorney found that the DOJ set him up.

His new attorney is a hack who pleases the right wing rabble. She wasn’t interested in defending him legally (her motions were legally dubious and smacked down repeatedly by the judge, even calling them unprofessional). She was putting on a public show to gin up right wing outrage and pressure.

Flynn wasn’t set up no matter what way you look at it. No one made him lie.

 

[IM2]

You say that like you imagine prosecutors ever turn over everything.....

The prosecutors by law have to turn over exculpatory evidence. The FBI withheld such evidence in order to engage in illegal spying and to justify their actions, whether found to be extreme abuse of power or criminal. An independent / objective US AG was selected to investigate, and he reportedly found BOTH.

As far as Martha Stewart goes, that opens up a whole new discussion about Insider Trading that should be discussed in a completely separate thread.

Again, never happens

Any conviction that has ever gone through a trial in the history of america. Never got ALL the exculpatory evidence.

Do you know what exculpatory means? If that’s every trial in America then there’s a huge systemic problem with our justice system...but that’s not the case. Cases have been dropped for less even when the person is dead to rights guilty. The prosecution is required to turn over ALL exculpatory evidence. And they do because they don’t want to loose. A Brady violation isn’t the prosecution had a case of the Monday’s and misspelled a name. It’s withholding evidence you’re supposed to turn over because it weakens your case. I’m mean sure they’re a few cases of the prosecution or investigators didn’t realize something was as important as it should be, but that’s extremely rare. Do you know how severely the defense would’ve torn up the prosecution with this evidence? It would’ve been a blood bath. They never would have brought this to trial. Which is why they A. Hid this, and B. Threatened to go after Flynn’s son if he didn’t take a guilty plea.

Also, do you care to tell me what was illegal in the phone call?

Find one

It doesn't happen

Only in the most egregious cases is it even brought up. Happens in every case

You guys live in a fucking fantasy world.

Oh Jesus, you have zero clue what you’re talking about. A simple google search of “famous Brady violations” would have given you lists of hundreds and saved you from looking very stupid right now. By the way in Flynn’s case, closing the case because there is no connection is not an easily overlooked detail for a prosecution to forget. I shouldn’t have to explain this.

We're a nation of hundreds of millions I was being facetious you fuckwit

my god

The Epidemic of Brady Violations: Explained

theappeal.org

Doesn't happen

More from that link:

"The prosecutor is responsible for disclosing anything known by members of the prosecution team , which includes law enforcement, forensic investigators, and other experts. Under Kyles v. Whitley, a case interpreting the Brady doctrine, the government cannot claim ignorance. It must actually find out what information is in the files of the people on whose work and expertise it relies. This rule is important. Making prosecutors immune from Brady when the material is in the police or analysts’ files would create perverse incentives for prosecutors not to know about information favorable to the defense."

Can't claim ignorance just because it was the FBI's case file.

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Yea in theory

In practice it never happens

It's an unenforceable mandate

But that's not an excuse.

It is still prosecutorial misconduct.

In Flynn's case, evidence showing that investigators were strategizing on how to get him to commit the very crime for which he is charged casts serious doubts on the entire case. The prosecution can hardly claim that is immaterial, even though they (comically) did so right before moving to dismiss the case. That motion came at the same time the lead prosecutor moved to withdraw from the case (running scared)

Whether the prosecutors knew about those handwritten notes or not (they did) is irrelevant. Having that information before he pled would have changed his decision.

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No it doesn't. Flynn did not have to lie.

 

[dudmuck]

Sullivan may vacate the 18 USC 1001 charge, and then charge Flynn with perjury.

You can't lie under oath to a federal judge.

1. A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime.

According to legal precedence Sullivan has no option but to dropt the case; however, he is bringing in his Trump-hating pal to discuss the ability to 'find' Flynn in COMTEMP of court.


2. Democrats lie under oath all the time. If all of their Democrats who lied under oath were in jail today, Gitmo would be full.

The last President to lie under oath and be found in Contempt was Slick Willy. He was given no jail time, but he did his license to practice law temporarily stripped.

"A Federal Judge can NOT 'charge' anyone with a crime"

Are you ever not a retard?

CLINTON IS FOUND TO BE IN CONTEMPT ON JONES LAWSUIT (Published 1999)

Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright cites Pres Clinton for contempt, ruling he willfully provided false testimony under oath about his relationship with Monica S Lewinsky in January 1998 deposition in sexual misconduct lawsuit filed by Paula Corbin Jones; scathing 32-page decision says Clinton's...

www.nytimes.com

Apparently some people don’t know their constitution very well. The courts have inherent power. They may exercise it with people who are playing games.

Yep.....the Obama DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence (were playing games) and framed Michael Flynn. The Judge took a bribe from somebody in Obama's criminal organization (playing games) to string out the case till Trump is forced to pardon him. If Trump Wins reelection the Democrats (playing games) will try to impeach him for the pardon.

what does it say about Flynn's attorneys if they had him plead guilty, and affirm that guilty plea, when according to Barr there was never anything to go on? the firm representing Flynn wasn't a bottom of the barrel kind of operation.

From what I've read.....Flynn's original attorneys were corrupt and worked with prosecutors from the corrupt DOJ.
He fired them and his new attorney found that the DOJ set him up.

Covington & Burling LLP is corrupt?
They have over a thousand lawyers at that firm, if so its huge. Have a link?

 

[IM2]

The only person looking for a lifeline here is Flynn. He's pissed this judge off something royal and so has barr.

The judge has oversteppped his authority. He can't do anything to Flynn now.

An idiot ^^^ chimes in.

This isn't Sullivan's first dance. He's been through this before and did pretty much the same thing as this time. Sullivan is experienced and knows more than you. Infinitely more than you.

What can he do to Flynn?

He has options. He can vacate his guilty plea. He can charge Flynn with contempt for lying to his court. He can sentence for lying to the FBI.

So, forget the Flynn case for a moment.

You're okay with a Court holding a person in contempt or charging them with perjury BECAUSE they plead guilty and ask to change their plea?

Think about that for a bit. If this becomes the precedent, will ANYONE ever plead guilty again? Will ANYONE ever answer this question in the affirmative: "Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty and for no other reason?" This will have a SERIOUS cooling effect on guilty pleas and will at least triple the number of criminal cases going to trial.

You hate Trump so much, that you are willing to go THAT FAR???

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Flynn pled because he was guilty of multiple crimes and could face jail time. Now he can drop his plea and go serve 5 years for the crime he was guilty of committing.

 

[IM2]

The only person looking for a lifeline here is Flynn. He's pissed this judge off something royal and so has barr.

The judge has oversteppped his authority. He can't do anything to Flynn now.

An idiot ^^^ chimes in.

This isn't Sullivan's first dance. He's been through this before and did pretty much the same thing as this time. Sullivan is experienced and knows more than you. Infinitely more than you.

What can he do to Flynn?

He has options. He can vacate his guilty plea. He can charge Flynn with contempt for lying to his court. He can sentence for lying to the FBI.

He can be sentenced for not diosclosing the income he made from russia which is 5 years.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The prosecution can hardly claim that is immaterial, even though they (comically) did so right before moving to dismiss the case.

It is immaterial. It has nothing to do with the facts of the case.

Notes on the aim of the interview that include a discussion of trying to get him to lie is immaterial to a case where he is charged with lying?

You and I have a completely different understanding of what is "material."

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