Just how fucked up is California?

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right, the gun just shot itself.

As a CCW holder in my state, I am responsible for my actions using a firearm in public. If I shoot somebody not in self-defense, it doesn't matter if it was an accident or not, I'm still being held responsible for the results of my actions.

Now tell us, just where did he get the gun from anyhow?

Found it

The person who should have been prosecuted was the agent who misplaced his weapon

Only a twisted tard all fucked up in the head can even think about fabricating such bullshit. And only Loon York and Mexifornia could/would rule on the case as they did...any legitimate court would have convicted the filthy fuck of criminal negligence causing death. This is super basic shit.

The jury ruled correctly

The state over prosecuted a weak case. It is what happens when you listen to conservative media

No, this is what happens when you have an illegal criminal in a commie state like Cali. I suppose if he stabbed her and made the statement he was just polishing his knife when she ran into it, you would believe that too.

The prosecution overplayed a weak hand with little evidence that proves murder

They never proved intent. The bullet hit 80 feet away and bounced off the pavement

The prosecution claimed that shows intent to kill her
The defense claimed that shows an accidental shot

The jury believed the defense

Of course they did, it's Commifornia.

The jury had a combined IQ of 100. WTF in the world could believe this guys story?

First, this illegal who was kicked out of the country five times with a criminal history found some narcotics (which he was on) in a dumpster, then he found a stolen gun wrapped in a teeshirt. First he claimed he was shooting at sea lions and then changed his story to picking up the gun and it accidentally going off.

My, there sure are a lot of illegal things to find in that area, isn't there? I'm 57 years old and never found illegal drugs or a gun, and I'm from this country.

So now these morons in the jury hear this story and to them, it makes perfect sense, because after all, most of us find illegal drugs and guns (on the same day) all the time.

And don't give me this "murder" stuff because the jury and the option to find him guilty of involuntary manslaughter, and they didn't even do that.

 

[rightwinger]

The illegal alien that killed Kate got a sentence of "Time Served" for the weapons charges he was convicted of.
Not only that but his new lawyer for the federal case he faces says a vote for a guilty verdict in the federal case is a vote for Trump.

That is how out to lunch California is...

What sentence did you expect for a weapons charge?

he was guilty of negligent homicide. If you had done it you would have been convicted. Why aren't illegal aliens responsible for their criminal acts in California?

If the prosecution had charged him with negligent homicide (manslaughter) they may have gotten a conviction

But the conservative media never would have tolerated a charge of negligent homicide......so they got a second degree murder charge

and lost

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The illegal alien that killed Kate got a sentence of "Time Served" for the weapons charges he was convicted of.
Not only that but his new lawyer for the federal case he faces says a vote for a guilty verdict in the federal case is a vote for Trump.

That is how out to lunch California is...

What sentence did you expect for a weapons charge?

Maybe Manslaughter at the bare minimum? Firing a loaded Gun off in a public tourist spot in the daytime should be against the law. You might hit a seagull?

He wasn't convicted of manslaughter

The prosecution overplayed their hand to pander to rightwing (Trump) outrage

They lost

Correct.

And the reprehensible right will continue to try to exploit the woman’s death for some perceived partisan ‘advantage’ – this idiotic thread is proof of that.

Most on the right care nothing about justice or the law, they seek only to propagate their fear, hate, and bigotry.

The right picked the wrong case to exploit

Beautiful girl killed by accident is not grounds to condemn 10 million Mexican immigrants

The actions of Trump and the conservative media was reprehensible

accident?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The illegal alien that killed Kate got a sentence of "Time Served" for the weapons charges he was convicted of.
Not only that but his new lawyer for the federal case he faces says a vote for a guilty verdict in the federal case is a vote for Trump.

That is how out to lunch California is...

What sentence did you expect for a weapons charge?

he was guilty of negligent homicide. If you had done it you would have been convicted. Why aren't illegal aliens responsible for their criminal acts in California?

If the prosecution had charged him with negligent homicide (manslaughter) they may have gotten a conviction

But the conservative media never would have tolerated a charge of negligent homicide......so they got a second degree murder charge

and lost

please just shut the fuck up.

 

[Mr Natural]

Fucked up enough to be country's most populous state with the largest economy.

 

[Eaglewings]

The illegal alien that killed Kate got a sentence of "Time Served" for the weapons charges he was convicted of.
Not only that but his new lawyer for the federal case he faces says a vote for a guilty verdict in the federal case is a vote for Trump.

That is how out to lunch California is...

This is the Alt Left Gramps.. most moderates do not agree.

The man who wrote this bill in California and got it passed , is a Spanish man with a Spanish family.

This makes me mad too.

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[rightwinger]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

 

[Eaglewings]

it's also the state where the white college kid got off on an actual forced rape because the judge felt sorry for him

Hey weren't you just going to put in a child pediphile into office ?

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[Eaglewings]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

But they had every witness they needed.. what else did they need?

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[rightwinger]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

But they had every witness they needed.. what else did they need?

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Some proof of intent

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

Zarate was eventually tried for second-degree murder. If found guilty of the charges of second-degree murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, and an enhancement of using a firearm, Zarate could have faced life in prison without the possibility of parole. The jury also had the option of deciding if he was guilty of involuntary manslaughter (where the death occurs without intent but “through the negligent or reckless actions of the defendant”[30].[16][31]

 

[Rexx Taylor]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

Zarate was eventually tried for second-degree murder. If found guilty of the charges of second-degree murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, and an enhancement of using a firearm, Zarate could have faced life in prison without the possibility of parole. The jury also had the option of deciding if he was guilty of involuntary manslaughter (where the death occurs without intent but “through the negligent or reckless actions of the defendant”[30].[16][31]

when a 9.0 hits LA,,,,Moonhead will blame Bush, Trump, and Global Cow Farting

 

[rightwinger]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

Zarate was eventually tried for second-degree murder. If found guilty of the charges of second-degree murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, and an enhancement of using a firearm, Zarate could have faced life in prison without the possibility of parole. The jury also had the option of deciding if he was guilty of involuntary manslaughter (where the death occurs without intent but “through the negligent or reckless actions of the defendant”[30].[16][31]

The jury had the option
But the prosecution can't give two theories as to what happend that day.
a. It was intentional
b. It was an accident

The prosecution built its case around option a.
The jury didn't buy it

 

[Rexx Taylor]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

Zarate was eventually tried for second-degree murder. If found guilty of the charges of second-degree murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, and an enhancement of using a firearm, Zarate could have faced life in prison without the possibility of parole. The jury also had the option of deciding if he was guilty of involuntary manslaughter (where the death occurs without intent but “through the negligent or reckless actions of the defendant”[30].[16][31]

we can see the entrance signs heading into Cally in 2018,,,some will read,,,,Welcome To California, You Must Be a F------king Idiot

 

[Redfish]

The illegal alien that killed Kate got a sentence of "Time Served" for the weapons charges he was convicted of.
Not only that but his new lawyer for the federal case he faces says a vote for a guilty verdict in the federal case is a vote for Trump.

That is how out to lunch California is...

What sentence did you expect for a weapons charge?

he was guilty of negligent homicide. If you had done it you would have been convicted. Why aren't illegal aliens responsible for their criminal acts in California?

If the prosecution had charged him with negligent homicide (manslaughter) they may have gotten a conviction

But the conservative media never would have tolerated a charge of negligent homicide......so they got a second degree murder charge

and lost

you don't understand our court system. the jury could have found him guilty of the lesser charge of negligent homicide, but they were determined to set him free to "show how tolerant" and stupid California is.

 

[Redfish]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

But they had every witness they needed.. what else did they need?

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Some proof of intent

crimes can occur without intent. But I get it. Hillary didn't intend to violate national security laws , so she is innocent in your small mind.

 

[Redfish]

Fucked up enough to be country's most populous state with the largest economy.

and middle class working people are leaving in droves. Pretty soon all you will have is Hollywood idiots and illegals.

 

[Redfish]

The jury made the only verdict they could given the available evidence
The judge gave the only sentence he could based on the charge he was convicted of

But they had every witness they needed.. what else did they need?

.

Some proof of intent

winger: "but officer, I didn't intend to go 90 in a 35 zone" so you have to let me off, right?

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Fucked up enough to be country's most populous state with the largest economy.

and middle class working people are leaving in droves. Pretty soon all you will have is Hollywood idiots and illegals.

what about "Welcome To California, do you know who our Governor is?, Maybe u wanna a make a U turn?"

 

[danielpalos]

The illegal alien that killed Kate got a sentence of "Time Served" for the weapons charges he was convicted of.
Not only that but his new lawyer for the federal case he faces says a vote for a guilty verdict in the federal case is a vote for Trump.

That is how out to lunch California is...

trying to lower costs. it is a federal problem that the federal government should be solving at the federal borders, not State interiors.