Leftwing - Rightwing and the Political Axis

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Where are the libertarians?

They can be left or right or center, but under less authority?

That's why I think a linear left-right only axis doesn't work too well.

A libertarian can not be left lololol

Sure they can. Abortion, same sex marriage, legalization of drugs.

Wanting the government out of issues is not the same as supporting issues.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

 

[Marion Morrison]

look above, I have given multiple

See, but here is where that is misleading.

From the Forbes article:

"Now, we can compare not only how the U.S. fares on mobility, but how developing countries in Asia and Africa are doing relative to the U.S.. The results are striking."

Of course they are. Have they factored in the increase in available technology and resources?

If my parents lived in a hut with no electricity or plumbing, and improvements in international trade have improved home building in my shit hole country, I could move into a shack with those plumbing and electricity, and PRESTO... I have greatly surpassed my parents in standard of living.

There is not much room to improve in the U.S. apart from standards generally improving for the entire population as technology and methods improve.

Here is more:

"Rather than using the more traditional metric of income, this study uses educational attainment as the basis for defining upward mobility. Absolute upward mobility refers to the ability of children to “out-learn” (my term) their parents. For example, if the parents only completed secondary school, but the children completed tertiary schooling, that would reflect absolute upward mobility. Relative mobility refers to the ability of children to do better than their peers compared to how the parents did relative to their own peers. In other words, if the parents were in the bottom quartile of educational attainment within their cohort, but the children were in the middle or upper quartile, that would reflect relative upward mobility."

Well....FUCK!!!

If neither of my parents had any formal education (because we are bush people) and I learn to read....PRESTO...

This is a ridiculous metric that is way more about shit holes becoming non-shit holes than it is the U.S. getting worse.

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You have a point developing countries in Asia and Africa. but we also fare poorly compared to other just as developed countries as this one.

That is not true at all. The EU is highly regimented. Class is everything in Europe.

Particularly in the UK. They'll never get rid of it.

It's the same in Germany and italy as well. France lost most of their upper class, so they are the least class oriented, and yet it still exists.

Some of their upper class bailed in the late 16- early 1700s..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Does anyone find it odd that so many people claim to be fiscally conservative yet we have not elected a fiscally Conservative president since Calvin Coolidge and we have 22 trillion dollars in national debt?

You neglect to mention that the respective political party's never give we the people that option.

That is one thing the 2016 election exposed for all to see.

We don't get to choose the candidates. The political elite trot out their two chosen ones and we get to choose the lesser of the two evils.


We are still choosing evil.

You know, there are more than two choices, if only people would take them

But there really aren't. The 2016 elections showed us just how much the political class controls our choices.

That is because we the people allow it to happen. There is nothing stopping half the nation from voting 3rd party except we have been brainwashed into believing it is a wasted for or a vote for the other side.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The difference between leftwing and rightwing in this context is rightwing is mobile. You can start at the bottom and reach the top, while those at the top can fall to the bottom. leftwing is regimented. Whatever level you were born into, you stay. There is no way to break into the upper echelons of power, or society. They are closed.

Perhaps that is why we have one of the worst social mobility rate among industrialized nations

Ours is one of the best. However, if the progressive left get more power this country will be over as a experiment in freedom.

In the US, social mobility rate among the worst of all industrialized nations

Facts in evidence show that to be completely false

Feel free to provide some facts that counter the facts that I have already provided.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In the US, social mobility rate among the worst of all industrialized nations

Link?

look above, I have given multiple

See, but here is where that is misleading.

From the Forbes article:

"Now, we can compare not only how the U.S. fares on mobility, but how developing countries in Asia and Africa are doing relative to the U.S.. The results are striking."

Of course they are. Have they factored in the increase in available technology and resources?

If my parents lived in a hut with no electricity or plumbing, and improvements in international trade have improved home building in my shit hole country, I could move into a shack with those plumbing and electricity, and PRESTO... I have greatly surpassed my parents in standard of living.

There is not much room to improve in the U.S. apart from standards generally improving for the entire population as technology and methods improve.

Here is more:

"Rather than using the more traditional metric of income, this study uses educational attainment as the basis for defining upward mobility. Absolute upward mobility refers to the ability of children to “out-learn” (my term) their parents. For example, if the parents only completed secondary school, but the children completed tertiary schooling, that would reflect absolute upward mobility. Relative mobility refers to the ability of children to do better than their peers compared to how the parents did relative to their own peers. In other words, if the parents were in the bottom quartile of educational attainment within their cohort, but the children were in the middle or upper quartile, that would reflect relative upward mobility."

Well....FUCK!!!

If neither of my parents had any formal education (because we are bush people) and I learn to read....PRESTO...

This is a ridiculous metric that is way more about shit holes becoming non-shit holes than it is the U.S. getting worse.

.

You have a point developing countries in Asia and Africa. but we also fare poorly compared to other just as developed countries as this one.

That is not true at all. The EU is highly regimented. Class is everything in Europe.

I have provided links to facts and data. Do you have anything other than "because I said so"?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

 

[Norman]

Fact is Gaytor's ass is lagging far behind his views. Have some real mobility and try a socialist country. Everyone except the 1% perpetually poor. Solved!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Fact is Gaytor's ass is lagging far behind his views. Have some real mobility and try a socialist country. Everyone except the 1% perpetually poor. Solved!

poor deluded little child trying to hard to get into the adult conversation and failing so hard

 

[Norman]

Fact is Gaytor's ass is lagging far behind his views. Have some real mobility and try a socialist country. Everyone except the 1% perpetually poor. Solved!

poor deluded little child trying to hard to get into the adult conversation and failing so hard

You preach about mobility, where is your mobility to change countries? You are not American.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You preach about mobility, where is your mobility to change countries? You are not American.

ahhh...the old love it or leave it routine...the very thing I was accused of and attacked for by your fellow sheep just a few days ago.

poor little child, so clueless about life.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Does anyone find it odd that so many people claim to be fiscally conservative yet we have not elected a fiscally Conservative president since Calvin Coolidge and we have 22 trillion dollars in national debt?

You neglect to mention that the respective political party's never give we the people that option.

That is one thing the 2016 election exposed for all to see.

We don't get to choose the candidates. The political elite trot out their two chosen ones and we get to choose the lesser of the two evils.


We are still choosing evil.

You know, there are more than two choices, if only people would take them

But there really aren't. The 2016 elections showed us just how much the political class controls our choices.

That is because we the people allow it to happen. There is nothing stopping half the nation from voting 3rd party except we have been brainwashed into believing it is a wasted for or a vote for the other side.

The voting system is rigged up so it is exactly that.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

The fuck you didn't, putz!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

The fuck you didn't, putz!

I spoke about one issue, perhaps you judge things on one issue out of 1000, but I have a brain and look at more than one thing at at time.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

Oh, motherfucker? Who is it the US lags behind, then? I suggest you take your ass there!

ASAP

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Does anyone find it odd that so many people claim to be fiscally conservative yet we have not elected a fiscally Conservative president since Calvin Coolidge and we have 22 trillion dollars in national debt?

You neglect to mention that the respective political party's never give we the people that option.

That is one thing the 2016 election exposed for all to see.

We don't get to choose the candidates. The political elite trot out their two chosen ones and we get to choose the lesser of the two evils.


We are still choosing evil.

You know, there are more than two choices, if only people would take them

But there really aren't. The 2016 elections showed us just how much the political class controls our choices.

That is because we the people allow it to happen. There is nothing stopping half the nation from voting 3rd party except we have been brainwashed into believing it is a wasted for or a vote for the other side.

The voting system is rigged up so it is exactly that.

if 50% of the country all voted 3rd party at the same time we could break that system.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

Oh, motherfucker? Who is it the US lags behind, then? I suggest you take your ass there!

ASAP

ahhh...the old love it or leave it routine...the very thing I was accused of and attacked for by your fellow sheep just a few days ago.

poor little child, so clueless about life.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So, you found that people are better off living in Denmark than the U.S.?

(this question, and the next one, gets to the heart of this discussion)

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

Oh, motherfucker? Who is it the US lags behind, then? I suggest you take your ass there!

ASAP

ahhh...the old love it or leave it routine...the very thing I was accused of and attacked for by your fellow sheep just a few days ago.

poor little child, so clueless about life.

I'm a grown man, and you'd be shooting bad to try me. I'm probably older than you, and I ain't no chump.

As for smarts, well..you're not in my league. Exactly what kind of narrative are you trying to present here, you fucking shill?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, I found that the US lags in the area of social mobility, it is not near as easy to move from one class to the next as people think it is.

So I say take your ass to where the grass is greener, asshole.

I did not say the grass was greener, do try and keep up.

Oh, motherfucker? Who is it the US lags behind, then? I suggest you take your ass there!

ASAP

ahhh...the old love it or leave it routine...the very thing I was accused of and attacked for by your fellow sheep just a few days ago.

poor little child, so clueless about life.

I'm a grown man, and you'd be shooting bad to try me. I'm probably older than you, and I ain't no chump.

your body might be older than mine, but you have the intellect of a child

 

[Norman]

You preach about mobility, where is your mobility to change countries? You are not American.

ahhh...the old love it or leave it routine...the very thing I was accused of and attacked for by your fellow sheep just a few days ago.

poor little child, so clueless about life.

I am not the only person in the world who can see the truth.

Not only are you not American, you are a colossal ass liar. No surprise the left wing attracts you so much. Chant, lie, chant, lie... not American, but so much gamma.