Let’s Face it……Trump will be convicted

[Vrenn]

He tried to do it in the courts, not by trying to overturn Congress through violent means. He didn't create fake electors either. Both Bush Jr and Gore followed the law. You know, the thing that you don't seem to apply to Rump? I'll call you criminal.

 

[Arlette]

Ben Shapiro
Joe Concha

Where is your law degree form please?

My degree is from a place where they taught me not to speculate on appeals for cases that haven't even gone to trial yet

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Legal experts disagree, are you a lawyer sir?

Which legal "experts" would those be?

He will get his appeal. If his conviction is upheld by the appeals court..that's the end of the story. ^Shrug^.

 

[Rawley]

Four separate indictments in four jurisdictions. 91 total counts.
Trump will have to pitch a perfect game.

Let’s look at the juries. After sitting through three or four months of tedious testimony, they will be asked to decide 20-30 counts.

While some jurors may demand guilty on all counts, others may demand innocent of all charges. In deliberation, the jurors will be tired, they want to go home. They will trade off charges and convict on some counts and acquit on others.
That is what juries do.

You appear to have a lot of faith in the prosecutors' legal theories.

 

[marvin martian]

You appear to have a lot of faith in the prosecutors' legal theories.

Cult members often have faith in very strange things.

 

[rightwinger]

So you think people should be criminally charged for their opinions?

None of the charges reflect Trumps opinions
They specifically say Trump is allowed to voice his opinions on the election.

What he IS being charged with is pressuring election officials, a fake electors scheme, inciting a riot based on lies he knew were not true.

 

[surada]

/---/ Let's face it, you're wrong wrong wrong.

This is all a result of Trump's lies.

 

[rightwinger]

He tried to do it in the courts, not by trying to overturn Congress through violent means. He didn't create fake electors either. Both Bush Jr and Gore followed the law. You know, the thing that you don't seem to apply to Rump? I'll call you criminal.

According to Trumps claims, Al Gore could have used his powers as Vice President to throw out the EVs from Florida because they are suspect.

 

[martybegan]

None of the charges reflect Trumps opinions
They specifically say Trump is allowed to voice his opinions on the election.

What he IS being charged with is pressuring election officials, a fake electors scheme, inciting a riot based on lies he knew were not true.

They say it, and then charge him anyway.

How do you incite a riot when you told the people to be peaceful?

 

[Rawley]

He's not being charged for having an opinion and you fucking know it. Get serious or get gone

You should probably read the indictments a bit closer.

 

[rightwinger]

They say it, and then charge him anyway.

How do you incite a riot when you told the people to be peaceful?

Interesting claim
Do your actions reflect your words?

If Trump wanted a peaceful protest, why didn’t he speak up when a Mob marching under his TRUMP banner breached the Capitol and beat officers? Why didn’t he speak up when he heard someone was shot?
Why did he ignore staff, family members and Republican leaders who urged him to stop the violence?

 

[L.K.Eder]

They say it, and then charge him anyway.

How do you incite a riot when you told the people to be peaceful?

weak ass shit, fatso.

 

[Arlette]

They say it, and then charge him anyway.

How do you incite a riot when you told the people to be peaceful?

He's not being charged with inciting a riot in court. He was impeached for that but not convicted.

 

[martybegan]

Interesting claim
Do your actions reflect your words?

If Trump wanted a peaceful protest, why didn’t he speak up when a Mob marching under his TRUMP banner breached the Capitol and beat officers? Why didn’t he speak up when he heard someone was shot?
Why did he ignore staff, family members and Republican leaders who urged him to stop the violence?

How could he have "stopped the violence"?

Would the Secret Service have allowed him to approach the crowd?

He said it right at the start of their march.

It was one of his supporters shot, so you using her to attack him is fucking pathetic.

 

[martybegan]

weak ass shit, fatso.

Reality, mouth breather.

 

[martybegan]

He's not being charged with inciting a riot in court. He was impeached for that but not convicted.

It's all part of the charges. It's all part of the bullshit.

 

[rightwinger]

How could he have "stopped the violence"?

Would the Secret Service have allowed him to approach the crowd?

He said it right at the start of their march.

It was one of his supporters shot, so you using her to attack him is fucking pathetic.

How could he stop it?

First thing Trump had to do was actually TRY to stop it
STOP posting inflammatory rhetoric that results in HANG MIKE PENCE
Send messages making it clear you do not support their messages
Get your Fat Ass in front of a camera and tell the TRUMPmob to withdraw

 

[Arlette]

You should probably read the indictments a bit closer.

I did. It has to do with how he tried to persuade Pence to crime with him and some others

 

[L.K.Eder]

Reality, mouth breather.

wrong. your queefery impresses no one.

 

[rightwinger]

It was one of his supporters shot, so you using her to attack him is fucking pathetic.

Ashli Babbit was shot because she believed the lies Trump was feeding her and was enraged enough to storm the House chambers