Let's unpack some of the right wing's delusion and dishonesty. Is universal healthcare socialism?

[Cecilie1200]

You'll often see conservatives argue that any social program is socialism and then in the next breath they'll say the Scandinavian countries are capitalist and not socialist when people point to how well they do over there. Well they have universal healthcare and very expansive social safety nets. Are those things socialism or not in your world view? You hypocrites can't have your cake and eat it too. Either the Scandinavian countries are socialist in your view or things like universal healthcare are not actually socialism. There are no Democrats arguing for the government to completely take over the private sector. They want universal healthcare and government funded universities like in the Scandinavian nations. At least get your shit straight and make a consistent argument.

I have something you can unpack, Sparkles.

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I don't dignify these sorts of "Assume that all conservatives think THIS, so that I can argue against it" crap from manifest cowards, and I encourage every other conservative on the board to give you the same lack of respect until such time as you grow a pair and venture out to debate ACTUAL conservatives and their ACTUAL words.

If you're one of the ones with consistent views then well done. I don't think all conservatives are the same.

How would you know what any conservative does? As I just pointed out, your OP demonstrates that you're too big a poltroon to actually talk to us.

Save your condescension for a time when you aren't an object of scorn and ridicule, coward.

 

[Anomalism]

You see? All they can do is go on the attack. They have to hide the fact they have nothing.

And that is precisely why UHC is inevitable.

So is government funded university. Want to know what the real irony is? Many of these people think of themselves as nationalists while caring nothing for the nation's good. They only care about themselves.

 

[g5000]

When we eventually end up with UHC, I won't blame the lefties. I will blame the tard herd who never held their leaders' feet to the fire to come up with an alternative.

All the tards who are foaming at the mouth in this topic will one day have to look in the mirror to identify the culprit behind UHC coming to fruition.

 

[harmonica]

You see? All they can do is go on the attack. They have to hide the fact they have nothing.

And that is precisely why UHC is inevitable.

So is government funded university. Want to know what the real irony is? Many of these people think of themselves as nationalists while caring nothing for the nation's good. They only care about themselves.

bullshit--you have NO proof of that---you are babbling shit

 

[Anomalism]

How would you know what any conservative does? As I just pointed out, your OP demonstrates that you're too big a poltroon to actually talk to us.

Save your condescension for a time when you aren't an object of scorn and ridicule, coward.

Whatever you say bub.

 

[Anomalism]

bullshit--you have NO proof of that---you are babbling shit

Modern conservatives are social Darwinists.

 

[g5000]

Again, the Republican party has had TEN YEARS to come up with a replacement for Obamacare.

It is weird watching the tards not figure out they have been hoaxed all this time.

Really weird.

 

[Anomalism]

Again, the Republican party has had TEN YEARS to come up with a replacement for Obamacare.

It is weird watching the tards not figure out they have been hoaxed all this time.

Really weird.

Conservatives don't have or want solutions. They're social Darwinists. People that need help can just die for all they care.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I would much rather just slap the shit out of you.

This is about the quality of response I expect from right wingers.

You will ridicule any response that does not align with your conclusion.

Obviously. He gave us the script of what he's decided we believe, and if we deviate from it, he might have to actually think. Can't have that.

Rule Number One of debating leftists: utterly deny and reject their attempts to set debate parameters to suit themselves.

 

[Indeependent]

I would much rather just slap the shit out of you.

This is about the quality of response I expect from right wingers.

You will ridicule any response that does not align with your conclusion.

Obviously. He gave us the script of what he's decided we believe, and if we deviate from it, he might have to actually think. Can't have that.

Rule Number One of debating leftists: utterly deny and reject their attempts to set debate parameters to suit themselves.

Rule Number One of debating leftists
You just stated a fallacy...Liberals don't debate, they lecture.
But you already knew that.

 

[Anomalism]

Obviously. He gave us the script of what he's decided we believe, and if we deviate from it, he might have to actually think. Can't have that.

Rule Number One of debating leftists: utterly deny and reject their attempts to set debate parameters to suit themselves.

So there are no conservatives that behave like I described in the OP?

 

[g5000]

So don't get distracted by the red herrings and the foaming at the mouth. Just point out they have no solution and thus UHC is coming their way whether they like it or not.

I've been poking the pseudocons for a very long time to wake the fuck up and start holding the hucksters like Trump and McConnell accountable.

To no avail. They BEG to be lied to.

 

[Anomalism]

You just stated a fallacy...Liberals don't debate, they lecture.

That's all there is to do when arguing with uneducated people.

 

[Anomalism]

So don't get distracted by the red herrings and the foaming at the mouth. Just point out they have no solution and thus UHC is coming their way whether they like it or not.

I've been poking the pseudocons for a very long time to wake the fuck up and start holding the hucksters like Trump and McConnell accountable.

To no avail. They BEG to be lied to.

They don't care because they don't want a solution. The weak and needy can die in their view.

 

[Concerned American]

To answer the OP. I believe Scandinavia is a capitalist country with a strong social safety net. We could call that portion socialist, I really don't care I don't think you can have one without the other. If one of them is missing the other is extreme.

Personally I think too much attention to the labels destroys good discourse. You have to play the label game to argue with conservatives though.

Excuse me? Your original post labeled "conservatives." You people really don't read what you write do you?

 

[Cecilie1200]

You will ridicule any response that does not align with your conclusion.

You have yet to address the OP without deflection.

You have yet to present an OP that isn't a deflection from your paralyzing fear of having to debate real people and their actual positions.

 

[g5000]

I hope we can at least all agree that UHC is socialism. Because it is.

 

[g5000]

Ten years.

The perfect con. Ten years since Obamacare with no replacement offered and the marks don't even know they've been hoaxed! They keep coming back for more lies!

Weird.

Really weird.

 

[Robert Urbanek]

Are free COVID-19 vaccines for all, paid for by government, a form of socialism? If so, will conservatives argue that the vaccine program won't work in the U.S. because of all our immigrants and racial issues?

 

[Anomalism]

Ten years.

The perfect con. Ten years since Obamacare with no replacement offered and the marks don't even know they've been hoaxed! They keep coming back for more lies!

Weird.

Really weird.

They don't want something better.