Liberals, what has Trump lied about?

I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.
There you are defending Tramp again, by giving the pathological liar the benefit of SOME doubt!

Well, unless he is LYING about how "smart" a "stable genius" he is, then Donnie Dirt Bag is smart enough to know he is lying!!!

"I always told people, you know I'm a very smart guy.
- Donald Jackass Tramp


he has driven you libs out of your minds, I consider that a very effective political move. Your spokespersons are now Maxine Waters, Pelosi, Whoopi, a porn slut, and the owners of a tiny restaurant that is going out of business. How many more ways can you find to lose?
 
I've never been sure if the way Trump communicates fully qualifies as "lying".

I've known a couple of people like him personally. They all communicate essentially in hyperbole, and they seem to do it so often that they may not even realize it. It's as if - and this is not a stretch - they have over time detached themselves from reality and will think that what they're saying is perfectly fine.

In other words, the fact that what they're saying isn't true may not even occur to them, or it does an instant and is subconsciously whisked away before it leaves a mark.

He probably knows sometimes, but I don't think he always does.
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can you name one politician who does not use political hyperbole to make a point? Can you name one that has never lied. This is a red herring, the libs know it, but its their only herring so they keep eating it even after it spoils.
I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.

Even when a politician is bullshitting me, which is most of them most of the time, I am confident that at least they know they are doing so.

I can think of one guy in real life who communicates like Trump. I've known him for 35 years. He and Trump are damn near carbon copies.
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Trump talks like a typical New Yorker, hyperbole is part of their normal everyday speech. Same is true of people from Boston and New Jersey. Its just the way they talk.

I am much more interested in the results that he has had so far and how much better off the economy is in his 500 days. I can take some NY bluster as long as he keeps getting results that help all americans.
Ironically, my friend (er, acquaintance) is also from NY. Or maybe not ironically.

I agree, results are the bottom line, regardless of what I think of the person.

Unlike some who voted against him, I'll hope for the best and cheer any victory.
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I've never been sure if the way Trump communicates fully qualifies as "lying".

I've known a couple of people like him personally. They all communicate essentially in hyperbole, and they seem to do it so often that they may not even realize it. It's as if - and this is not a stretch - they have over time detached themselves from reality and will think that what they're saying is perfectly fine.

In other words, the fact that what they're saying isn't true may not even occur to them, or it does an instant and is subconsciously whisked away before it leaves a mark.

He probably knows sometimes, but I don't think he always does.
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can you name one politician who does not use political hyperbole to make a point? Can you name one that has never lied. This is a red herring, the libs know it, but its their only herring so they keep eating it even after it spoils.
I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.

Even when a politician is bullshitting me, which is most of them most of the time, I am confident that at least they know they are doing so.

I can think of one guy in real life who communicates like Trump. I've known him for 35 years. He and Trump are damn near carbon copies.
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Trump talks like a typical New Yorker, hyperbole is part of their normal everyday speech. Same is true of people from Boston and New Jersey. Its just the way they talk.

I am much more interested in the results that he has had so far and how much better off the economy is in his 500 days. I can take some NY bluster as long as he keeps getting results that help all americans.
Ironically, my friend (er, acquaintance) is also from NY. Or maybe not ironically.

I agree, results are the bottom line, regardless of what I think of the person.

Unlike some who voted against him, I'll hope for the best and cheer any victory.
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me too, and though many on the left would not understand it, I wanted Obama to succeed. He had a chance to heal the racial divide and bring the country back together, instead he made the divide much worse and created this ideology of hate that we see from the left.
 
I've never been sure if the way Trump communicates fully qualifies as "lying".

I've known a couple of people like him personally. They all communicate essentially in hyperbole, and they seem to do it so often that they may not even realize it. It's as if - and this is not a stretch - they have over time detached themselves from reality and will think that what they're saying is perfectly fine.

In other words, the fact that what they're saying isn't true may not even occur to them, or it does an instant and is subconsciously whisked away before it leaves a mark.

He probably knows sometimes, but I don't think he always does.
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And there you are making excuses for Donnie Dirt Bag's constant lying.
Tramp is NOT detached from reality, lying IS his reality. He is a SOCIOPATHIC LIAR!!!!!
Come on now, for once in your life admit the truth, you never know, you might actually like it!!!!

Creating elaborate lies for their own gain with no care about who gets hurt is a hallmark of sociopathic lying. Sociopaths are compulsive pathological liars.

Sociopaths lie without conscience.

That means that they can look you right in the eye and lie to you and not show the usual markers that would give them away.

It also means that they don’t care about collateral damage.

They get their mind set on a goal and they will make up whatever they need to in their attempts to achieve their goal. It doesn’t matter what the consequences are to others as a result of their lies. It doesn’t matter if other adults get hurt and it doesn’t matter if children get hurt.
 
One of liberals favorite things to say about Trump is that all he does is lie. He lies, his administration lies, and then he lies some more. Lies, lies, lies.

If you're old enough to remember the Bush years, liberals pretty much said the same thing about him. Everything he ever uttered was a LIE.

Quick question: why doesn't anyone ever go into all the "lies" Trump tells? I know there are lists out there that say stuff like "Trump has told 3,081 lies since he took office", but I can tell you now that's bullshit. If you bean count every inaccurate statement he or someone in his administration makes, you may be able to find a myriad of untruths, but 1) that's petty, 2) that's "cheating" (I'll explain in a second), and 3) those aren't necessarily lies.

Let's be clear about a lie is, because words have meaning. A lie is when you knowingly state a falsehood as a statement of fact. A lie isn't simply when you get something wrong or when you're mistaken about something or even when you're wrong about something you "should" know.

It's cute for news organizations to act as though they're keeping Trump honest by pointing out his lies. In theory, that's what the Fourth Estate is for: keeping honest those in power. But they know, like we know, like Trump knows, most people aren't hanging on to every word or assertion he makes and then filing away whether it was factually correct or not.

One could argue that the truth always matters, but it's not always relevant. People care whether Trump intends on trying to build a wall; they don't care about whether Trump was right when he said Washington Post journalists want to strike unless Jeff Bezos pays them more.

It's easy to ding Trump and his administration for lies when they often have to address questions off the cuff or before all the facts are known, while reporters can sit around and Google and "fact-check" all day and score points that way. And I think the media is making the same mistake they've always made with Trump: they don't take him seriously, but insist on taking him literally. Because why would Trump say one thing to the press on Tuesday, and say the exact opposite on Wednesday? Like, on a habitual basis? Either he's trolling, he speaks off the cuff about subjects he hasn't really thought through, or people looking to catch him in a lie are trying to find an inconsistency where there really is none.

Liberals, tell me some important Trump "lies". And fair warning: I'm thorough. So if you think you're going to go copypasta some list you found on fuckdrumpf.com and think I'm not going to fact-check it or call you out when it's bullshit, think again.
I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf. Bleev me. Bleev me. Bleev me, folks." - Donald Trump, August 8, 2016






an exaggeration is not a lie. come on, is that all you have?

No, it is an exaggerated LIE!



did you really think he meant that he would never play golf during his terms???? really???? are you that dumb???

So you are admitting he lied.
Thank you.
 
One of liberals favorite things to say about Trump is that all he does is lie. He lies, his administration lies, and then he lies some more. Lies, lies, lies.

If you're old enough to remember the Bush years, liberals pretty much said the same thing about him. Everything he ever uttered was a LIE.

Quick question: why doesn't anyone ever go into all the "lies" Trump tells? I know there are lists out there that say stuff like "Trump has told 3,081 lies since he took office", but I can tell you now that's bullshit. If you bean count every inaccurate statement he or someone in his administration makes, you may be able to find a myriad of untruths, but 1) that's petty, 2) that's "cheating" (I'll explain in a second), and 3) those aren't necessarily lies.

Let's be clear about a lie is, because words have meaning. A lie is when you knowingly state a falsehood as a statement of fact. A lie isn't simply when you get something wrong or when you're mistaken about something or even when you're wrong about something you "should" know.

It's cute for news organizations to act as though they're keeping Trump honest by pointing out his lies. In theory, that's what the Fourth Estate is for: keeping honest those in power. But they know, like we know, like Trump knows, most people aren't hanging on to every word or assertion he makes and then filing away whether it was factually correct or not.

One could argue that the truth always matters, but it's not always relevant. People care whether Trump intends on trying to build a wall; they don't care about whether Trump was right when he said Washington Post journalists want to strike unless Jeff Bezos pays them more.

It's easy to ding Trump and his administration for lies when they often have to address questions off the cuff or before all the facts are known, while reporters can sit around and Google and "fact-check" all day and score points that way. And I think the media is making the same mistake they've always made with Trump: they don't take him seriously, but insist on taking him literally. Because why would Trump say one thing to the press on Tuesday, and say the exact opposite on Wednesday? Like, on a habitual basis? Either he's trolling, he speaks off the cuff about subjects he hasn't really thought through, or people looking to catch him in a lie are trying to find an inconsistency where there really is none.

Liberals, tell me some important Trump "lies". And fair warning: I'm thorough. So if you think you're going to go copypasta some list you found on fuckdrumpf.com and think I'm not going to fact-check it or call you out when it's bullshit, think again.
I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf. Bleev me. Bleev me. Bleev me, folks." - Donald Trump, August 8, 2016






an exaggeration is not a lie. come on, is that all you have?

No, it is an exaggerated LIE!



did you really think he meant that he would never play golf during his terms???? really???? are you that dumb???

So you are admitting he lied.
Thank you.


Yup, time for impeachment, just on that alone.
 
I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.
There you are defending Tramp again, by giving the pathological liar the benefit of SOME doubt!

Well, unless he is LYING about how "smart" a "stable genius" he is, then Donnie Dirt Bag is smart enough to know he is lying!!!

"I always told people, you know I'm a very smart guy.
- Donald Jackass Tramp
I give everyone the benefit of some doubt.

Even people like you.

I'd think that's what decent people do.
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Truly decent people know when there is no doubt left, and at that point stop making excuses for Sociopathic Liars!!!!!
 
One of liberals favorite things to say about Trump is that all he does is lie. He lies, his administration lies, and then he lies some more. Lies, lies, lies.

If you're old enough to remember the Bush years, liberals pretty much said the same thing about him. Everything he ever uttered was a LIE.

Quick question: why doesn't anyone ever go into all the "lies" Trump tells? I know there are lists out there that say stuff like "Trump has told 3,081 lies since he took office", but I can tell you now that's bullshit. If you bean count every inaccurate statement he or someone in his administration makes, you may be able to find a myriad of untruths, but 1) that's petty, 2) that's "cheating" (I'll explain in a second), and 3) those aren't necessarily lies.

Let's be clear about a lie is, because words have meaning. A lie is when you knowingly state a falsehood as a statement of fact. A lie isn't simply when you get something wrong or when you're mistaken about something or even when you're wrong about something you "should" know.

It's cute for news organizations to act as though they're keeping Trump honest by pointing out his lies. In theory, that's what the Fourth Estate is for: keeping honest those in power. But they know, like we know, like Trump knows, most people aren't hanging on to every word or assertion he makes and then filing away whether it was factually correct or not.

One could argue that the truth always matters, but it's not always relevant. People care whether Trump intends on trying to build a wall; they don't care about whether Trump was right when he said Washington Post journalists want to strike unless Jeff Bezos pays them more.

It's easy to ding Trump and his administration for lies when they often have to address questions off the cuff or before all the facts are known, while reporters can sit around and Google and "fact-check" all day and score points that way. And I think the media is making the same mistake they've always made with Trump: they don't take him seriously, but insist on taking him literally. Because why would Trump say one thing to the press on Tuesday, and say the exact opposite on Wednesday? Like, on a habitual basis? Either he's trolling, he speaks off the cuff about subjects he hasn't really thought through, or people looking to catch him in a lie are trying to find an inconsistency where there really is none.

Liberals, tell me some important Trump "lies". And fair warning: I'm thorough. So if you think you're going to go copypasta some list you found on fuckdrumpf.com and think I'm not going to fact-check it or call you out when it's bullshit, think again.
I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf. Bleev me. Bleev me. Bleev me, folks." - Donald Trump, August 8, 2016






an exaggeration is not a lie. come on, is that all you have?

No, it is an exaggerated LIE!



did you really think he meant that he would never play golf during his terms???? really???? are you that dumb???

So you are admitting he lied.
Thank you.



everyone lies, especially politicians. what matters is whether the lies affect us like this one "if you like your plan you can keep it" or this one "the use of chemical weapons will be a red line for Syria".

Trump's exaggeration about his future golfing has zero impact on anyone.

but you libs are desperate, we understand that.
 
I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.
There you are defending Tramp again, by giving the pathological liar the benefit of SOME doubt!

Well, unless he is LYING about how "smart" a "stable genius" he is, then Donnie Dirt Bag is smart enough to know he is lying!!!

"I always told people, you know I'm a very smart guy.
- Donald Jackass Tramp
I give everyone the benefit of some doubt.

Even people like you.

I'd think that's what decent people do.
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Truly decent people know when there is no doubt left, and at that point stop making excuses for Sociopathic Liars!!!!!


so you will no longer be making excuses for Hillary? Good for you.
 
What has Trump lied about? Is there enough bandwidth?

I'll have the best people! I know the best people! And the resignations and indictments continue.

The tragedy is Right Wingers misplaced honesty in order to win an election and now, eighteen months later, they have forgotten where they put it.
 
What has Trump lied about? Is there enough bandwidth?

I'll have the best people! I know the best people! And the resignations and indictments continue.

The tragedy is Right Wingers misplaced honesty in order to win an election and now, eighteen months later, they have forgotten where they put it.


LOL, you have it totally wrong. replace Trump with Obama and right with left and your statement makes sense.

what really spins you up is that he does have the best people and he is getting things done that neither Bush 41 or 43, Clinton, or Obama could do. that's your real issue, his success.
 
I've never been sure if the way Trump communicates fully qualifies as "lying".

I've known a couple of people like him personally. They all communicate essentially in hyperbole, and they seem to do it so often that they may not even realize it. It's as if - and this is not a stretch - they have over time detached themselves from reality and will think that what they're saying is perfectly fine.

In other words, the fact that what they're saying isn't true may not even occur to them, or it does an instant and is subconsciously whisked away before it leaves a mark.

He probably knows sometimes, but I don't think he always does.
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can you name one politician who does not use political hyperbole to make a point? Can you name one that has never lied. This is a red herring, the libs know it, but its their only herring so they keep eating it even after it spoils.
All politicians lie; but none have lied with almost every breath they’ve taken, like Trump has done.

But he’s doing Democrats a favor. Never again can the right bitch when a Democrat gets caught in a lie.
 
I've never been sure if the way Trump communicates fully qualifies as "lying".

I've known a couple of people like him personally. They all communicate essentially in hyperbole, and they seem to do it so often that they may not even realize it. It's as if - and this is not a stretch - they have over time detached themselves from reality and will think that what they're saying is perfectly fine.

In other words, the fact that what they're saying isn't true may not even occur to them, or it does an instant and is subconsciously whisked away before it leaves a mark.

He probably knows sometimes, but I don't think he always does.
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can you name one politician who does not use political hyperbole to make a point? Can you name one that has never lied. This is a red herring, the libs know it, but its their only herring so they keep eating it even after it spoils.
All politicians lie; but none have lied with almost every breath they’ve taken, like Trump has done.

But he’s doing Democrats a favor. Never again can the right bitch when a Democrat gets caught in a lie.


"with every breath" you are an idiot.
 
what matters is whether the lies affect us like this one "if you like your plan you can keep it"
Except that wasn't a lie, as you well know!!!

Obama made sure there was a grandfather clause in the PPACA for retention of ALL the old plans. Capitalistic GREED caused the INSURANCE COMPANIES to cancel the old plans, not Obama or the PPACA, but the Right can never admit the failings of Capitalism, so they blame those they hate most!!
But you knew that already.
 
I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.
There you are defending Tramp again, by giving the pathological liar the benefit of SOME doubt!

Well, unless he is LYING about how "smart" a "stable genius" he is, then Donnie Dirt Bag is smart enough to know he is lying!!!

"I always told people, you know I'm a very smart guy.
- Donald Jackass Tramp
I give everyone the benefit of some doubt.

Even people like you.

I'd think that's what decent people do.
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Truly decent people know when there is no doubt left, and at that point stop making excuses for Sociopathic Liars!!!!!


so you will no longer be making excuses for Hillary? Good for you.
But, but, but Hillary.
 
what matters is whether the lies affect us like this one "if you like your plan you can keep it"
Except that wasn't a lie, as you well know!!!

Obama made sure there was a grandfather clause in the PPACA for retention of ALL the old plans. Capitalistic GREED caused the INSURANCE COMPANIES to cancel the old plans, not Obama or the PPACA, but the Right can never admit the failings of Capitalism, so they blame those they hate most!!
But you knew that already.

I honestly believe RW's are too stupid to understand what grandfathered means.
 
What has Trump lied about? Is there enough bandwidth?

I'll have the best people! I know the best people! And the resignations and indictments continue.

The tragedy is Right Wingers misplaced honesty in order to win an election and now, eighteen months later, they have forgotten where they put it.


LOL, you have it totally wrong. replace Trump with Obama and right with left and your statement makes sense.

what really spins you up is that he does have the best people and he is getting things done that neither Bush 41 or 43, Clinton, or Obama could do. that's your real issue, his success.
You must be so proud of Pruitt, Carson and deVos. Not to mention Flynn, Manafort and Gates. And the credibility of Spicer and now Sanders. And the 43% turnover rate in his administration.

Your buttons must be bustin' over the way he has been handling this immigration crisis he created. And all those Noth Korean concessions! What a marvel!

Of course, who needs Canada, Great Britain, the EU or NATO when we have Russia, Turkey (that paradigm of democracy) and the Philippines (where due process has been eliminated) on our side now.
 
I dunno, there will be a lot of idiot liberals that will be upset you let that one slip out.
Nah, that’s not a slip — this is....

We register them as Democrats and hand them ObamaPhones as they cross over.
Illegal Aliens do not vote,. More lies from the dumbass Trumpettes.

What!? The media lies?
Jerry Brown Signs Automatic Voter Registration In California | HuffPost

California Law Will Automatically Register Drivers to Vote
Dayam, are you stooped... That’s for citizens.

Yeah, that's what we need, someone at the DMV making decisions.
Stooped poster ^^^ doubles down on stooped.

Imbecile, there’s no one at the DMV making decisions on this matter. Exactly what do you think the word, ”automatic,” means??
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I can't think of another politician who communicates almost exclusively in hyperbole like this guy. As I said, regarding lying, I'm not sure if he believes what he says or not.
There you are defending Tramp again, by giving the pathological liar the benefit of SOME doubt!

Well, unless he is LYING about how "smart" a "stable genius" he is, then Donnie Dirt Bag is smart enough to know he is lying!!!

"I always told people, you know I'm a very smart guy.
- Donald Jackass Tramp
I give everyone the benefit of some doubt.

Even people like you.

I'd think that's what decent people do.
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Truly decent people know when there is no doubt left, and at that point stop making excuses for Sociopathic Liars!!!!!


so you will no longer be making excuses for Hillary? Good for you.
But, but, but Hillary.
Has Hillary lied 15 times per day, or 103 lies per week?
 

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