Louisiana lawmakers want Ten Commandments in all public school classrooms

[Marener]

How about they just call them "Values To live By" and update the language a bit?

The first commandment directly contradicts the first amendment.

 

[Leo123]

Having no other god makes sense because there is no 'other god.' There is only human-created false idols.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Where in The Constitution are the 10 commandments mentioned?

They are not. The US Constitution is based on Judeo-Christian ethics and laws. Why must the 10 Commandments be mentioned in the Constitution in order for them to be listed in schools? Christian or not, the 10 Commandments are a good baseline for communities to live by. Feel free to disagree.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Commandment #1: “You shall have no other gods before Me.” (Exodus 20:3)

So maybe not all of them will apply. How about

• Thou shall not steal
• Thou shall not kill
• Honor father and mother
• Do not covet thy neighbors wife
• Do not covet thy neighbors oxon

(The last two might help stem violence over girls and high end tennis shoes)

 

[WinterBorn]

The 10 Commandments do not belong in classrooms.

Yes, having laws against murder, theft etc is a good thing. But we have those already.

The first four commandments are strictly Judeo-Christian. That is what is not allowed.

 

[WinterBorn]

They are not. The US Constitution is based on Judeo-Christian ethics and laws. Why must the 10 Commandments be mentioned in the Constitution in order for them to be listed in schools? Christian or not, the 10 Commandments are a good baseline for communities to live by. Feel free to disagree.

Absolutely wrong.

There is a mention of religion in the US Constitution. It is in the 1st Amendment.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Posting the 10 Commandments in public schools is establishing a state religion.

 

[WinterBorn]

Again, remove the first three, what is so horrible about commandments 4-10?

#4 is also strictly Judeo-Christian.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Absolutely wrong.

There is a mention of religion in the US Constitution. It is in the 1st Amendment.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Posting the 10 Commandments in public schools is establishing a state religion.

How is posting 10 Commandments in Public Schools establishing a State Religion? It is merely pointing to a collection of good rules and guidelines that happen to be part of Christianity. Not all of them apply. If the schools set up a mandatory Christian Religion curriculum and/or required Chapel and Convocation services attendance, then that would be the schools establishing a state religion. That’s not the case here.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Nice try

You know he meant the commandments that revolve around “having no other god”, etc.

Making a law establishing an official state deity would be unconstitutional as hell and you know it

Don’t pretend to be stupid

H. Con. Res. 35:
“The Ten Commandments shall be prominently posted for display in the chambers of the House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States.”

 

[WinterBorn]

How is posting 10 Commandments in Public Schools establishing a State Religion? It is merely pointing to a collection of good rules and guidelines that happen to be part of Christianity. Not all of them apply. If the schools set up a mandatory Christian Religion curriculum and/or required Chapel and Convocation services attendance, then that would be the schools establishing a state religion. That’s not the case here.

The first 4 commandments are strictly relating to a specific religion. That is unconstitutional.

Why not just put up a list of things the students shouldn't do? Don't Kill. Don't Steal. Why does it have to be the 10 Commandments.

 

[OKTexas]

The first commandment directly contradicts the first amendment.

Really, how so?

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[WinterBorn]

H. Con. Res. 35:
“The Ten Commandments shall be prominently posted for display in the chambers of the House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States.”

Luckily a resolution does not carry the force of a law. It can be ignored.

 

[Marener]

Really, how so?

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First commandment says you have to be Christian. First amendment says you can be anything you want.

The ten commands are largely opposed to the freedoms we enjoy.

 

[WinterBorn]

Really, how so?

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"You shall have no other gods before me"

Yeah, that is certainly a contradiction or a violation of the 1st amendment.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Luckily a resolution does not carry the force of a law. It can be ignored.

House, Senate, National Archives, and a variety of other DC landmarks.
There's Moses with his tablets, front and center etched into the Supreme Court building:

 

[OKTexas]

The 10 Commandments do not belong in classrooms.

Yes, having laws against murder, theft etc is a good thing. But we have those already.

The first four commandments are strictly Judeo-Christian. That is what is not allowed.

They can't be Judeo-Christian, Christ hadn't been born at that time.

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[OKTexas]

"You shall have no other gods before me"

Yeah, that is certainly a contradiction or a violation of the 1st amendment.

Once again, how so, be specific.

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[WinterBorn]

House, Senate, National Archives, and a variety of other DC landmarks.
There's Moses with his tablets, front and center etched into the Supreme Court building:
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If you are going to try to use the friezes from the US Supreme Court to justify using biblical dogma for our gov't, then show the other friezes as well. There are plenty that have nothing to do with Judeo-Christian history. They simply show law givers.

 

[OKTexas]

First commandment says you have to be Christian. First amendment says you can be anything you want.

The ten commands are largely opposed to the freedoms we enjoy.

How could that possibly be, since Christ was born long after the time of Moses? And what freedoms do they oppose?

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[WinterBorn]

They can't be Judeo-Christian, Christ hadn't been born at that time.

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The term "Judeo-Christian" is used to discuss that specific religion, since Judaism largely evolved into Christianity. Specifically, the God described in the 10 Commandments is the God of Judaism and of Christianity.