Minimum Wage Increases Passed in All Five States Where It Was on the Ballot

[Katzndogz]

Automation in these states has suddenly become VERY attractive.

 

[Roadrunner]

Automation in these states has suddenly become VERY attractive.

So, the bottom 1% gets a raise.

I am waiting to see how this raises household income.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

only $15 an hour?

I though San Fran would do $100/hour, I wonder why they didn't...hmmmm

Unlike you, the backers weren't stupid.

Here's my plan.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

You've got bad price info.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

Can't be done.
-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

Unconstitutional.

Nobody believes that the minimum wage can be raised to 20 bucks an hour legislatively.

The point of pointing out that that is where it should be if it had kept up with various indicators is to show that it is not irrational greed that is driving the push to increase the minimum wage.

btw, if the minimum wage had kept up with productivity gains, which is probably the fairest measure as far as justifying an increase,

it should be at the least, over 15 bucks an hour.

btw, if the minimum wage had kept up with productivity gains, which is probably the fairest measure as far as justifying an increase,

The problem with minimum wage jobs, they aren't very productive.
You can't easily increase their productivity.

 

[mudwhistle]

That should tell you a lot.

It does.

Most voters can be tricked into voting for something because it sounds good, but really isn't. Referendums usually pass because of a misinformed electorate. The less they know the better the chance of it passing.

 

[mudwhistle]

Automation in these states has suddenly become VERY attractive.

So, the bottom 1% gets a raise.

I am waiting to see how this raises household income.

This only means more inflation. Coupled with income stagnation it means a higher average poverty level.

 

[theHawk]

This is hilarious. A few minor issues like minimum wage and pot smoking passed in a few blue states, and you shills are here saying this means the whole country is really progressive at heart.

The progressive ***** just can't accept the fact that they got their asses handed to them over the vast majority of the country. Even several deep blue states went red.
Do us all a a favor and move to Washington, you all deserve each other.

The minimum wage measures passed in four Republican states plus Illinois. In Illinois, they elected a Republican Governor who opposed a hike in the minimum wage but supported the minimum wage increase by a margin of 63% to 37%. .

More support for my argument that on the issues directly before them, the voters were rational and voted Democrat. In the big picture, the GOP victory was just an emotional mob mentality stampede.

It may have been an "emotional mob mentality" victory, but that says a lot about the President and his Progressive minions in Congress and how much they managed to piss off the country pushing their Agenda.

 

[Theowl32]

I curious - for supporters of minimum wage laws - if you think minimum wage laws have a net positive effect, why not make them count? This question is almost always dodged, or ignored, but what do you all think would happen if we set a national minimum wage at say $20.00/hr? And lets skip past implementation issues, we can phase it in over several years, whatever you think makes sense. But how do you think it would pan out? Would low-wage workers really be better off?

What we all know (those of us with an ability to think for ourselves) is how this yet another issue where the democrats try to capture the large block of voters in the poor class.

The democrats know damn well how this works economically. Their mindless minions march on with their divisive orders to edify and grab that voting block. Most of which have which have bought into the utopia myth, that is socialism.

Left right left right you stupid squish pots.

 

[peach174]

I curious - for supporters of minimum wage laws - if you think minimum wage laws have a net positive effect, why not make them count? This question is almost always dodged, or ignored, but what do you all think would happen if we set a national minimum wage at say $20.00/hr? And lets skip past implementation issues, we can phase it in over several years, whatever you think makes sense. But how do you think it would pan out? Would low-wage workers really be better off?

Look at what happens when it is done in European Countries for the fast food workers.
The price goes up and the people get less serving portions.
It stifles growth of the companies and leads to less profit for the owners.
That means taxes has to raised on everyone rather than more growth in businesses.
The more that governments take from the people in taxes, the less people have in disposable income and leads to stagnant growth in the countries economy
The more any country has growth the more revenue the countries get in taxes.
The 5 most expensive countries on the Big Mac Index Nomad Capitalist

Capitalism works that is why China & Russia moved toward it as well as Ireland and South American Countries.

 

[Roadrunner]

Automation in these states has suddenly become VERY attractive.

So, the bottom 1% gets a raise.

I am waiting to see how this raises household income.

This only means more inflation. Coupled with income stagnation it means a higher average poverty level.

High minimum wage has meant that millions of young people with limited skills never got their first job.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is hilarious. A few minor issues like minimum wage and pot smoking passed in a few blue states, and you shills are here saying this means the whole country is really progressive at heart.

The progressive ***** just can't accept the fact that they got their asses handed to them over the vast majority of the country. Even several deep blue states went red.
Do us all a a favor and move to Washington, you all deserve each other.

The minimum wage measures passed in four Republican states plus Illinois. In Illinois, they elected a Republican Governor who opposed a hike in the minimum wage but supported the minimum wage increase by a margin of 63% to 37%. .

More support for my argument that on the issues directly before them, the voters were rational and voted Democrat. In the big picture, the GOP victory was just an emotional mob mentality stampede.

It may have been an "emotional mob mentality" victory, but that says a lot about the President and his Progressive minions in Congress and how much they managed to piss off the country pushing their Agenda.

The president's 'agenda' was stopped when the GOP won the House.

 

[SwimExpert]

The minimum wage and pot are both moderate issues that make sense.

Minimum wage is not a moderate issue. It's an asinine issue that makes no sense.

The true issue should be the effects of ballooning income disparity on the health of the economy. Raising the minimum wage is a [bad] proposal to address that issue.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It tells you that the Democrats are on the right side of the issues, but just got caught on the wrong emotional side of the nation at this moment in time.

Yeah, that's it....

lol

 

[Mac1958]

That should tell you a lot.

Good.

I like federalism, the 10th Amendment, all that.

.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The minimum wage and pot are both moderate issues that make sense.

Minimum wage is not a moderate issue. It's an asinine issue that makes no sense.

The true issue should be the effects of ballooning income disparity on the health of the economy. Raising the minimum wage is a [bad] proposal to address that issue.

Exactly... it's an issue that affects what, 2% of the population.. mostly 16 - 25 year olds?

Who cares...

 

[mudwhistle]

This is hilarious. A few minor issues like minimum wage and pot smoking passed in a few blue states, and you shills are here saying this means the whole country is really progressive at heart.

The progressive ***** just can't accept the fact that they got their asses handed to them over the vast majority of the country. Even several deep blue states went red.
Do us all a a favor and move to Washington, you all deserve each other.

The minimum wage measures passed in four Republican states plus Illinois. In Illinois, they elected a Republican Governor who opposed a hike in the minimum wage but supported the minimum wage increase by a margin of 63% to 37%. .

More support for my argument that on the issues directly before them, the voters were rational and voted Democrat. In the big picture, the GOP victory was just an emotional mob mentality stampede.

It may have been an "emotional mob mentality" victory, but that says a lot about the President and his Progressive minions in Congress and how much they managed to piss off the country pushing their Agenda.

The president's 'agenda' was stopped when the GOP won the House.

He still has his pen.

His agenda goes deeper than just legislation. It has changed the Pentagon, changed the courts, changed the NFL, taken an NBA team from an owner, changed our school lunches, allows millions of illegals to invade our country, caused hundreds of thousands of deaths in Africa and the Middle-East due to rampant ethnic-cleansing.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is hilarious. A few minor issues like minimum wage and pot smoking passed in a few blue states, and you shills are here saying this means the whole country is really progressive at heart.

The progressive ***** just can't accept the fact that they got their asses handed to them over the vast majority of the country. Even several deep blue states went red.
Do us all a a favor and move to Washington, you all deserve each other.

The minimum wage measures passed in four Republican states plus Illinois. In Illinois, they elected a Republican Governor who opposed a hike in the minimum wage but supported the minimum wage increase by a margin of 63% to 37%. .

More support for my argument that on the issues directly before them, the voters were rational and voted Democrat. In the big picture, the GOP victory was just an emotional mob mentality stampede.

It may have been an "emotional mob mentality" victory, but that says a lot about the President and his Progressive minions in Congress and how much they managed to piss off the country pushing their Agenda.

The president's 'agenda' was stopped when the GOP won the House.

He still has his pen.

His agenda goes deeper than just legislation. It has changed the Pentagon, changed the courts, changed the NFL, taken an NBA team from an owner, changed our school lunches, allows millions of illegals to invade our country, caused hundreds of thousands of deaths in Africa and the Middle-East due to rampant ethnic-cleansing.

Oh for chrissakes just stop. Please.

 

[dblack]

I'm curious - for supporters of minimum wage laws - if you think minimum wage laws have a net positive effect, why not make them count? This question is almost always dodged, or ignored, but what do you all think would happen if we set a national minimum wage at say $20.00/hr? And lets skip past implementation issues, we can phase it in over several years, whatever you think makes sense. But how do you think it would pan out? Would low-wage workers really be better off?

 

[Roadrunner]

The minimum wage and pot are both moderate issues that make sense.

Minimum wage is not a moderate issue. It's an asinine issue that makes no sense.

The true issue should be the effects of ballooning income disparity on the health of the economy. Raising the minimum wage is a [bad] proposal to address that issue.

Exactly... it's an issue that affects what, 2% of the population.. mostly 16 - 25 year olds?

Who cares...

Mostly 16-25 year olds living at home in households earning over $55,000 is what I last read.

That is really gonna help raise a lot of people out of poverty.

 

[mudwhistle]

The minimum wage measures passed in four Republican states plus Illinois. In Illinois, they elected a Republican Governor who opposed a hike in the minimum wage but supported the minimum wage increase by a margin of 63% to 37%. .

More support for my argument that on the issues directly before them, the voters were rational and voted Democrat. In the big picture, the GOP victory was just an emotional mob mentality stampede.

It may have been an "emotional mob mentality" victory, but that says a lot about the President and his Progressive minions in Congress and how much they managed to piss off the country pushing their Agenda.

The president's 'agenda' was stopped when the GOP won the House.

He still has his pen.

His agenda goes deeper than just legislation. It has changed the Pentagon, changed the courts, changed the NFL, taken an NBA team from an owner, changed our school lunches, allows millions of illegals to invade our country, caused hundreds of thousands of deaths in Africa and the Middle-East due to rampant ethnic-cleansing.

Oh for chrissakes just stop. Please.

It's all of that hopey changey stuff you voted for.

All of this can be proved, and i'm certain you'll never acknowledge it.

 

[Dad2three]

That should tell you a lot.

Yes, most people don't understand economics.
No shock. We see it on this board every day.

Republican/Conservative reasoning: Bush tax cuts created jobs through trickle down economics, but raising the minimum wage will surely destroy the economy. You can't make this stuff up.