Tommy Tainant
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Theocracies dont have a great track record.Mississippi pass most anti-LGBT bill to date
It claims that the law could see a woman fired from her job for wearing trousers, a counsellor on a suicide line refuse to speak to an LGBT teenager or even an adoption agency refuse to place a child with a family because the parents lived together before they were married.
This is lunacy on a majestic scale.Is the South so far behind the civilised world ?
Honestly, if I were you I would relax. The war is going very well for their side. You have won almost all the battles since the 60s. This mississippi thing is but a very minor and temporary irritant that will get overruled. Just like when 30 out of 30 states all voted against gay marriage in referendums not more than 10 years ago. It wasn't long before our courts took over and righted that "wrong."
Secularism rules. Perversion rules. Christians have become pariahs and their beliefs are roundly mocked and ostracized.
Our only chance of prevailing or gaining any ground is if our "hunch" about Jesus returning comes true.
Theocracies dont have a great track record.
It strikes me that the injured Christian defence has been used before.
Wasnt slavery defended by the Baptists using citations from the bible ? Eventually they had to admit that they were wrong.
Now its the turn of Gay people because ,lets face it,ignorant people have to hate somebody.
Again a couple of passages in the Bible are used to support this.
Its a nonsense. The Bible has a stance on just about everything. And yet its the Gays who are the target.
Why is there is no law to enable the baker to refuse service to the car thief ?
Or the Buddhist or Muslim or Hindu. How do followers of a "False God" rank in front of Christian Gays ?
How does the straight drug dealer get more respect than the Gay heart surgeon ?
In my view its very straightforward.
Its because there is a dwindling group of people who are uncomfortable with change and also have an unhealthy attitude to sex.
They select passages from the scriptures to back up their sickness and use it to oppress all of us.
So, no one is asking for a theocracy or even discussing one.
It strikes me that the injured Christian defence has been used before.
Well, whatever. I don’t know what you are talking about.
Wasnt slavery defended by the Baptists using citations from the bible ? Eventually they had to admit that they were wrong.
Admit it to who? To the greater Christian movement that was the main force trying to route out slavery. I am not conceding Baptists were this element you are accusing them of, it does not matter. But I love how the modern day unbelievers love to judge and indict Christians of centuries ago for not living their lives of a 21st century denizen of this planet. Of course those passing judgment on ancient Christians do not ever consider what the heathens were doing back then, and how nations were dealing with adversities, etc. It’s all this new age ethics should have all been known then and no other elements may have dictated how life was lived. It’s really lame, imo, to have to keep hearing that as their main argument.
Now its the turn of Gay people because ,lets face it,ignorant people have to hate somebody.
Not sure how much time I can spend addressing your stupidity.
Again a couple of passages in the Bible are used to support this.Its a nonsense. The Bible has a stance on just about everything. And yet its the Gays who are the target.
What passage did I use? You are the one who needs to put words in our mouths to make your own case look better. Lame. I may very well provide evidence for God and from that provide evidence for the Catholic Church as God’s representative here on earth. Now if you can refute my evidence for God, then you may have some merit. But I am not worried about that.
Why is there is no law to enable the baker to refuse service to the car thief ?
It is your side who is more interested in punishing and routing out Christians than you are in making sure a gay person can get a cake baked at any bakery of his choice. After all, if that was your push, then you would have the courage to go harass Muslim bakeries. But you don’t. You and/or this gay movement want to destroy Christianity and the one true God --- that is your mission – because Christianity makes you all so uncomfortable and you just will not have your egos and your pleasures challenged.
Or the Buddhist or Muslim or Hindu. How do followers of a "False God" rank in front of Christian Gays ?
I do not think you are ready as a student to listen fairly to an answer. But if you insist I will provide one.
How does the straight drug dealer get more respect than the Gay heart surgeon ? In my view its very straightforward. It’s because there is a dwindling group of people who are uncomfortable with change and also have an unhealthy attitude to sex. They select passages from the scriptures to back up their sickness and use it to oppress all of us.
No, that is not it at all. The fact the “group” may be “dwindling” provides not even an iota of greater evidence for your case. Ok? The vast majority of people do not believe in purgatory either, that is hardly going to make any impression on Catholic teaching.
So what was your next point?... oh, that we have an “unhealthy” attitude toward sex. Oh, yes. According to who? According to all those who want to have their sex served as they demand and without any consequence or repercussions for it. Well, that sounds convenient. Look, I already told you --- our understanding come from knowing there is extremely well documented empirical evidence for the Judeo-Christian God. And His messages have been given in a myriad of ways, none so strong as what the Catholic Church teaches and what the saints have revealed. And the saints have provided amazing signs and wonders to validate their words. So there is no need for us to look any further than to know 1) legalized abortion is very wrong and sinful, and 2) gay marriage is wrong and a pox on society. We as a society shall pay dearly for telling God --- “yes, we hear you God, we are simply not interested in what you want of us.”
You havent really addressed any of my points.
My case is this.Those who are pushing for a religious exemption are very selective in who they are targeting.
Let me reduce it to a simple question.
Why do the religious bigots target Gays and not other groups who are condemned in the bible ?
I provided some examples for you. Here is another.
How does a murderer get his cake but the Gay cop doesnt ?
Unless you can give a credible answer then you have no case.