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It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.
 
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It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.

Well the reason it's so hot within the midwest is because of a large area of high pressure centered over Texas that has been centered there for the past 3-4 months. What a high pressure does is increase pressure within the air column throughout the Atmosphere...It does this through as the air "convergences" at 200-300 millibar level or 30,000-50,000 feet within the Atmosphere and divergences clockwise within the northern Hemisphere at the surface(surface pressure). What this does is cause the air to sink or decrease within its moisture(latent heat) and causes the lapse rate to warm as the air flows from the Atmosphere to the surface. This decreases cloud cover and so you have 1# sunny weather 2# hotter weather with little clouds.

This area of high pressure has sat there for months forcing the jet stream to the northern United states and southern Canada, while the west coast has been within cold weather within a dip within the jet stream. The opposite occurs with low pressure with the air convergences at the surface and removes the air as it rises and forms the clouds from a decrease within the lapse rate and condenses as it goes from a evaporation to condensation. That is a stage change.

Your area is hot for a reason and westwall and my area is cool for a reason. All to do with weather.
 
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What Matthew posted was correct. More importantly the reason the weather patterns have frozen is because the Arctic is cooling and that has shifted the Jet Stream into its current position. And I don't lie. I may make a mistake and if I do I will acknowledge that fact as soon as I am made aware of it. So far the only people caught lying have been the AGW cultists, and that many, many, many times. Look it up some day, you'll be amazed at the shenanigans that the climatologists have been pulling....but only if you don't have blinders on.
 
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It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.

Magically? Really? What has to add up between the two different places for you?
Could it be that it's not AGW, and just different weather patterns like it's always been?
Don't believe me?...look at this

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
 
It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.

Well the reason it's so hot within the midwest is because of a large area of high pressure centered over Texas that has been centered there for the past 3-4 months. What a high pressure does is increase pressure within the air column throughout the Atmosphere...It does this through as the air "convergences" at 200-300 millibar level or 30,000-50,000 feet within the Atmosphere and divergences clockwise within the northern Hemisphere at the surface(surface pressure). What this does is cause the air to sink or decrease within its moisture(latent heat) and causes the lapse rate to warm as the air flows from the Atmosphere to the surface. This decreases cloud cover and so you have 1# sunny weather 2# hotter weather with little clouds.

This area of high pressure has sat there for months forcing the jet stream to the northern United states and southern Canada, while the west coast has been within cold weather within a dip within the jet stream. The opposite occurs with low pressure with the air convergences at the surface and removes the air as it rises and forms the clouds from a decrease within the lapse rate and condenses as it goes from a evaporation to condensation. That is a stage change.

Your area is hot for a reason and westwall and my area is cool for a reason. All to do with weather.

Random chance? God’s will, maybe? Don’t know, but it is HOTTER than H-E double hockey sticks here . IT IS warmer than the summers of my childhood, the gentle rains, all that, gone . Gone. The plains are baking. NOW. And there are far more people NOW than forty years ago, and far less rains. More housing developments, less prairie, less meadows and far more condos, more realtors selling land, more people. The world has reached some 7 billion people. That is insane. And to pretend that THAT hasn’t got something to do with our predicament? Denial.
 
It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.

Well the reason it's so hot within the midwest is because of a large area of high pressure centered over Texas that has been centered there for the past 3-4 months. What a high pressure does is increase pressure within the air column throughout the Atmosphere...It does this through as the air "convergences" at 200-300 millibar level or 30,000-50,000 feet within the Atmosphere and divergences clockwise within the northern Hemisphere at the surface(surface pressure). What this does is cause the air to sink or decrease within its moisture(latent heat) and causes the lapse rate to warm as the air flows from the Atmosphere to the surface. This decreases cloud cover and so you have 1# sunny weather 2# hotter weather with little clouds.

This area of high pressure has sat there for months forcing the jet stream to the northern United states and southern Canada, while the west coast has been within cold weather within a dip within the jet stream. The opposite occurs with low pressure with the air convergences at the surface and removes the air as it rises and forms the clouds from a decrease within the lapse rate and condenses as it goes from a evaporation to condensation. That is a stage change.

Your area is hot for a reason and westwall and my area is cool for a reason. All to do with weather.

Random chance? God’s will, maybe? Don’t know, but it is HOTTER than H-E double hockey sticks here . IT IS warmer than the summers of my childhood, the gentle rains, all that, gone . Gone. The plains are baking. NOW. And there are far more people NOW than forty years ago, and far less rains. More housing developments, less prairie, less meadows and far more condos, more realtors selling land, more people. The world has reached some 7 billion people. That is insane. And to pretend that THAT hasn’t got something to do with our predicament? Denial.




And twenty years from now it will be back to what you remembered. There you go with that denial bullshit again. The only people denying anything is you. Yes the world has 7 billion people on it. Guess what it can support 20 billion with comparitive ease. 23 billion with some work. 40 billion with some serious effort. Malthus was wrong because he ignored a simple thing called technology.

100 years ago a drought like we are experiencing now would have killed thousands. Now the only people who die do so because their governments either allow it to happen or want it to happen. 40 years ago we were all told that the carrying capacity of the planet would be reached by 1980.

Paul Ehrlich has been so spectacularly wrong about everything he's ever opened his mouth about that only the truly religious fanatics still listen to him. Well them and the socialists who think we should be killing off people at the rate of 300,000 or so a day like Jaques Costeau once advocated.

You see, the only people who talk like you do are the scientifically illiterate who believe they know what is best for everyone. People like James Cameron who lives in his palatial mansion but thinks you should live in a hovel because you aren't one of the "elite". They all sound the same don't they?

Here's a wake up call for you. The population of the world has been levelling off and it will most likely stabalise at around 9-10 billion. That's assuming we do nothing. If we actually try and end poverty in the world (and it can be done, just don't use the UN to atempt it) the population will drop. Wealthy people don't need bunches of kids to help work the farm. They have machines do that work for them.

You want to look at the problems of this world? Look in the mirror. You've been spoonfed a bunch of horseshit and you are so un interested in checking it out that you went to sleep.
You are a big part of the problem. Wake up. Educate yourself and start helping to fix the problems of this world. Think globally act locally to make your local area better. After enough people have done that the world will be a better place.







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It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.

Magically? Really? What has to add up between the two different places for you?
Could it be that it's not AGW, and just different weather patterns like it's always been?
Don't believe me?...look at this

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Coeur d'Alene, Idaho


I’m sure Idaho is a wonderful place. I will try going there one day. To quote Chico Marx: “ Who are ya gonna believe, ME our your eyes”? It’s like THAT. I believe what I see with my own two freaking eyeballs. Not websites YOU cherry pick. But, thanks for the reference.
 
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Well the reason it's so hot within the midwest is because of a large area of high pressure centered over Texas that has been centered there for the past 3-4 months. What a high pressure does is increase pressure within the air column throughout the Atmosphere...It does this through as the air "convergences" at 200-300 millibar level or 30,000-50,000 feet within the Atmosphere and divergences clockwise within the northern Hemisphere at the surface(surface pressure). What this does is cause the air to sink or decrease within its moisture(latent heat) and causes the lapse rate to warm as the air flows from the Atmosphere to the surface. This decreases cloud cover and so you have 1# sunny weather 2# hotter weather with little clouds.

This area of high pressure has sat there for months forcing the jet stream to the northern United states and southern Canada, while the west coast has been within cold weather within a dip within the jet stream. The opposite occurs with low pressure with the air convergences at the surface and removes the air as it rises and forms the clouds from a decrease within the lapse rate and condenses as it goes from a evaporation to condensation. That is a stage change.

Your area is hot for a reason and westwall and my area is cool for a reason. All to do with weather.

Random chance? God’s will, maybe? Don’t know, but it is HOTTER than H-E double hockey sticks here . IT IS warmer than the summers of my childhood, the gentle rains, all that, gone . Gone. The plains are baking. NOW. And there are far more people NOW than forty years ago, and far less rains. More housing developments, less prairie, less meadows and far more condos, more realtors selling land, more people. The world has reached some 7 billion people. That is insane. And to pretend that THAT hasn’t got something to do with our predicament? Denial.




And twenty years from now it will be back to what you remembered. There you go with that denial bullshit again. The only people denying anything is you. Yes the world has 7 billion people on it. Guess what it can support 20 billion with comparitive ease. 23 billion with some work. 40 billion with some serious effort. Malthus was wrong because he ignored a simple thing called technology.

100 years ago a drought like we are experiencing now would have killed thousands. Now the only people who die do so because their governments either allow it to happen or want it to happen. 40 years ago we were all told that the carrying capacity of the planet would be reached by 1980.

Paul Ehrlich has been so spectacularly wrong about everything he's ever opened his mouth about that only the truly religious fanatics still listen to him. Well them and the socialists who think we should be killing off people at the rate of 300,000 or so a day like Jaques Costeau once advocated.

You see, the only people who talk like you do are the scientifically illiterate who believe they know what is best for everyone. People like James Cameron who lives in his palatial mansion but thinks you should live in a hovel because you aren't one of the "elite". They all sound the same don't they?

Here's a wake up call for you. The population of the world has been levelling off and it will most likely stabalise at around 9-10 billion. That's assuming we do nothing. If we actually try and end poverty in the world (and it can be done, just don't use the UN to atempt it) the population will drop. Wealthy people don't need bunches of kids to help work the farm. They have machines do that work for them.

You want to look at the problems of this world? Look in the mirror. You've been spoonfed a bunch of horseshit and you are so un interested in checking it out that you went to sleep.
You are a big part of the problem. Wake up. Educate yourself and start helping to fix the problems of this world. Think globally act locally to make your local area better. After enough people have done that the world will be a better place.







Herald-Journal - Google News Archive Search

Beg to differ, but none of that will come back. Not in our lifetime, anyway. Wake up? Too what? Globalism IS a delusion. It is madness created by people that don't know either nature or human nature. You are betting OUR future on a well meaning pseudo intellectual HUNCH. You are deluding yourself.
 
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Random chance? God’s will, maybe? Don’t know, but it is HOTTER than H-E double hockey sticks here . IT IS warmer than the summers of my childhood, the gentle rains, all that, gone . Gone. The plains are baking. NOW. And there are far more people NOW than forty years ago, and far less rains. More housing developments, less prairie, less meadows and far more condos, more realtors selling land, more people. The world has reached some 7 billion people. That is insane. And to pretend that THAT hasn’t got something to do with our predicament? Denial.




And twenty years from now it will be back to what you remembered. There you go with that denial bullshit again. The only people denying anything is you. Yes the world has 7 billion people on it. Guess what it can support 20 billion with comparitive ease. 23 billion with some work. 40 billion with some serious effort. Malthus was wrong because he ignored a simple thing called technology.

100 years ago a drought like we are experiencing now would have killed thousands. Now the only people who die do so because their governments either allow it to happen or want it to happen. 40 years ago we were all told that the carrying capacity of the planet would be reached by 1980.

Paul Ehrlich has been so spectacularly wrong about everything he's ever opened his mouth about that only the truly religious fanatics still listen to him. Well them and the socialists who think we should be killing off people at the rate of 300,000 or so a day like Jaques Costeau once advocated.

You see, the only people who talk like you do are the scientifically illiterate who believe they know what is best for everyone. People like James Cameron who lives in his palatial mansion but thinks you should live in a hovel because you aren't one of the "elite". They all sound the same don't they?

Here's a wake up call for you. The population of the world has been levelling off and it will most likely stabalise at around 9-10 billion. That's assuming we do nothing. If we actually try and end poverty in the world (and it can be done, just don't use the UN to atempt it) the population will drop. Wealthy people don't need bunches of kids to help work the farm. They have machines do that work for them.

You want to look at the problems of this world? Look in the mirror. You've been spoonfed a bunch of horseshit and you are so un interested in checking it out that you went to sleep.
You are a big part of the problem. Wake up. Educate yourself and start helping to fix the problems of this world. Think globally act locally to make your local area better. After enough people have done that the world will be a better place.







Herald-Journal - Google News Archive Search

Beg to differ, but none of that will come back. Not in our lifetime, anyway. Wake up? Too what? Globalism IS a delusion. It is madness created by people that don't know either nature or human nature.





You may beg all you wish but I see you are choosing to remain asleep. Oh well, don't say I didn't warn ya! Here's a prediction for you. The world has entered a cooling phase that will last between 20 and 30 years. It is driven by many factors (none of them anthropogenic) and will end as the last cycle did and then warming will begin again. I hope I live long enough to witness the cycle repeat.
 
Westwall: I wish you good health, perhaps we continue this anothertime, brother? Goodnight.
 
It’s Hotter here in the Midwest, but, it’s just cooler in Idaho, magically? Something isn’t adding up here. I don't believe you, westwall. Or, perhaps, it’s a fluke, or you are lying? I could JUST look it up, ya know. I have nothing to gain, YOU? If I am wrong I will admit it. I mentioned Illegal aliens, because I live with BOTH them and global warming. This is a constant of the elitists that promote profits over rationality. But I digress, THAT was way off topic.

Magically? Really? What has to add up between the two different places for you?
Could it be that it's not AGW, and just different weather patterns like it's always been?
Don't believe me?...look at this

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Coeur d'Alene, Idaho


I’m sure Idaho is a wonderful place. I will try going there one day. To quote Chico Marx: “ Who are ya gonna believe, ME our your eyes”? It’s like THAT. I believe what I see with my own two freaking eyeballs. Not websites YOU cherry pick. But, thanks for the reference.

Look who's in denial :eusa_whistle:
 
Magically? Really? What has to add up between the two different places for you?
Could it be that it's not AGW, and just different weather patterns like it's always been?
Don't believe me?...look at this

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Coeur d'Alene, Idaho


I’m sure Idaho is a wonderful place. I will try going there one day. To quote Chico Marx: “ Who are ya gonna believe, ME our your eyes”? It’s like THAT. I believe what I see with my own two freaking eyeballs. Not websites YOU cherry pick. But, thanks for the reference.

Look who's in denial :eusa_whistle:

That "cherry picked website" is no more than a weather website. Hardly cherry picked, and certainly not global warming. Amazing that you will believe facts that have been proven a fraud and still believe them. That's just amazing.
 
I’m sure Idaho is a wonderful place. I will try going there one day. To quote Chico Marx: “ Who are ya gonna believe, ME our your eyes”? It’s like THAT. I believe what I see with my own two freaking eyeballs. Not websites YOU cherry pick. But, thanks for the reference.

Look who's in denial :eusa_whistle:

That "cherry picked website" is no more than a weather website. Hardly cherry picked, and certainly not global warming. Amazing that you will believe facts that have been proven a fraud and still believe them. That's just amazing.






That's the nature of faith. No matter what you tell a true believer they will allways figure out a way to rationalise it away. Or simply ignore it because it makes their brain hurt.
 
Westwall: I wish you good health, perhaps we continue this anothertime, brother? Goodnight.




And I you, but I am not your brother (fortunately for you!) but I care about ALL people and want all people to do well. Well not evil doers but that's a different thread.

Goodnight to you and yours.
 

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Record hottest August temperatures on record in the US. Were do you live, Daveman? Just wondering. It has been hotter than hell here in the US. But how odd that it also coincides with the record population growth AND growing pollution from those same record numbers of people... Some of the folks that argue against human caused global warming seem to have more concern with profits and the well-being of the "economy" than they are with scientific standards of exactitude. If the planet dies, the economy won’t do so bloody well, will it? But, why bother with the long term?
I live in Kentucky. Yes, it's been hot here, too.

And no, weather is not climate, no matter how loudly the Chicken Littles (*coughChriscough*) squawk. Correlation is not causation.
 
Record hottest August temperatures on record in the US. Were do you live, Daveman? Just wondering. It has been hotter than hell here in the US. But how odd that it also coincides with the record population growth AND growing pollution from those same record numbers of people... Some of the folks that argue against human caused global warming seem to have more concern with profits and the well-being of the "economy" than they are with scientific standards of exactitude. If the planet dies, the economy won’t do so bloody well, will it? But, why bother with the long term?

It's the people and not the Sun, I see. :cuckoo:


Don't make things so personal. I don't think you have much scientific curiosity, I think you are more the simplistic dogmatic type. Yeah, it’s the PEOPLE. The sun has been around through many an ICE AGE, too. So? We are the wild card in the equation, Einstein. Put 2 + 2 together.
Wow. You call that "science"?

Because it's not.
 
The sun hasn't changed in billions of years, it isn't any hotter nor is it any closer. Given ALL the possible variables, effluent produced by record numbers of humans HAS increased in record numbers. THAT is a DEFINITE factor here. That can not be denied. That is common sense and quite obvious, as well. I have seen the weather changes in the last thirty years. No bull. I am not a "denier'. Tis' is the other way around, here. My point isn’t to make you look or feel foolish, it’s that I am alarmed at the changes I have seen, they most certainly are negative and they are more than likely the result of Human overpopulation.

So what are you, personally, doing about it? NOTE: Posting on the internet doesn't count.
 

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