Most Americans like Socialism

[Uncensored2008]

There were about fifteen types of socialism, and Marx hated most types except his own, Scientific Socialism. Marx's Scientific Socialism didn't work so the USSR dropped it a couple of years after the revolution and introduced NEP. It still pretended to practice Marx however. Now a question, who decides what label to give to a nation's political and economic system, the nation itself, political scientists, economists, the media, US message board posters, or who? Are most nations economic mixtures as is the US?

The NEP is nothing other than Fascism. Lenin stole the ideas of his old student Mussolini. Limited ability to make a profit under state direction.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Still deflecting with childish BS? Name where socialism has ever worked. I won't wait....child

Go look out your window.

See that long straight thing where you drive your car?

Or, let's say you find a fire burning in the middle of your living room floor.

Who you gonna call?

Knee jerk dummy.

the road, and the fire department are values to me.
can you explain to me the value in paying some welfare queen to sit on her backside all day eating taxpayer funded food while watching Springer on the welfare funded big screen while talking to her other welfare queen friends on the free obama phone?
I am curious how this helps me. Or if that's too tough,
tell me how it helps me to pay so much for my insurance now that I cant afford to go to a doctor, so that some unproductive individual can go for free at my expense.
Now, what happens when every one in the country decides to kick back, not work and just collect the free stuff,, who is going to pay for that?

AFDC no longer exists; TANF replaced it. Thus the Welfare Queens of yesteryear no longer exist.

Millions of people used the emergency room (ER) for routine health problems at an enormous cost to local taxpayers and a heavy burden for local governments. The PPACA, Medicare and Medicaid reforms, have ameliorated the burden on taxpayers and provided health care for many who didn't have it or could not purchase it because of on going health problems.

Why can't you afford health insurance? it could be you governor choose to opt out of the new health care law, or you simply didn't apply for the subsidy. In any event take the advice you would give to the apocryphal welfare queen and get off the internet and work harder to improve your life. It is all about you taking personal responsibility.

Actually, I still have insurance through my employer. However, should that be removed and force me to go to the inferior ACA, My coverage would be less, and instead of 360 a month right now (4320 a year premium) and my 10 dollar copay with nothing out of pocket before it kicks in, I would go to 10,800 a year in premiums with a 12,400 out of pocket, so I would basically spend 23,200 a year for my coverage, while some bottom feeder pays 60 a month for better coverage than I can get.
This is nothing more than another redistribution of wealth.
And in Maryland even the illegals are able to get medical care, they should not. or at the very least their home country should pay the bill for their upkeep.

Good for you, I too have lifetime health insurance paid mostly by my former employer (I'm retired); not everyone is so lucky. if the current crop of conservative pols have their way, future generations will spend their retirement years without defined benefits and without health insurance. Too many today have decided, "I've got mine, screw the rest of you".

I dont have a screw the rest of you attitude, I have the I worked and paid for mine, you do the same.
its much more equal that way.

 

[Desperado]

No True American likes Socialism.

 

[idb]

Childish replies are often a result of "playing to ones audience"....as is definitely the case here..
Why should I waste anything even remotely articulate on a fool like you...??....

Name where socialism has ever succeeded, I'm not interested in your other BS. If you can't then cease responding to me, loser. Tick tock tick tock....fool.

Name a country that doesn't have some elements of Socialism.

Any country has elements of it, no country that has adopted it wholesale has evew succeed under it

You're right.
Neither has any country that has adopted wholesale laissez-faire capitalism.
So why is it only socialist elements that are so strongly condemned?

Look up, the thread is about...socialism?

Yep.

 

[BluesLegend]

Socialism has never worked....and never will

Answer honestly:

Do you understand the difference in governance between an Authoritarian and a democratic republic?

Do you understand the difference between Regulated Capitalism and Lassiez Faire Capitalism?

Do you understand the difference between an economic system and a political system of governance?

Edgetho should answer the same questions.

Star Trek episode 22 is a good example of socialist idiots, they want to be ruled by Landru and engage in festival at the red hour.

Star Trek.

STAR TREK??

Gee, why not Spiderman or X-Men?

Are you an imbecile or something?

 

[BluesLegend]

Star Trek episode 22 is a good example of socialist idiots, they want to be ruled by Landru and engage in festival at the red hour.

Star Trek.

STAR TREK??

Gee, why not Spiderman or X-Men?

Because Roddenberry was a visionary and you're an idiot.

Take care of my light work Edgetho

 

[Theowl32]

Socialism has never worked....and never will

What do you think lit up rural America after capitalism did such a great job lighting up our cities and small towns back in the 1880's

Neither system is perfect nor covers all the bases.

There is no perfect system, yet all of the left wing democrat socialists do is push the mythical uptopia that does not exist.

The simple fact is the FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE provides EVERYONE from the privileged to the underprivileged opportunity. Want me to list all of those that made something out of themselves who grew up in the ghetto by taking advantages of the opportunities given them?

Go ahead, list ALL of the things invented under communist conditions that have benefited mankind. I will be waiting for that long list.

No one said capitalism is perfect, however in a monetary system it works MOST PRACTICAL since it does not dismiss the other part of the human being that cannot be measured. Stuff that poets write about and scientists dismiss. The HUMAN SPIRIT where courage, and motivation exist.

Communism fails, cause it dismisses all of that. It works on paper, but humans do not live on PAPER. Maybe some of you know it alls can explain to all of us why communist countries build WALLS TO KEEP THEIR PEOPLE IN! Scratching your head?

I am so sick and tired of people being manipulated by these pied pipers on the left by manipulating the ignorant, gullible useful idiots.

When was the last time we saw droves of American citizens trying to ESCAPE to socialist countries? Give me the articles. Want me to show you mass numbers risking their fucking lives escaping communist countries and socialist countries to get here?

Why the fuck do you suppose that is? Hmmmmm? Morons.

Get a fucking clue. I will be waiting for that list.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Go look out your window.

See that long straight thing where you drive your car?

Or, let's say you find a fire burning in the middle of your living room floor.

Who you gonna call?

Knee jerk dummy.

the road, and the fire department are values to me.
can you explain to me the value in paying some welfare queen to sit on her backside all day eating taxpayer funded food while watching Springer on the welfare funded big screen while talking to her other welfare queen friends on the free obama phone?
I am curious how this helps me. Or if that's too tough,
tell me how it helps me to pay so much for my insurance now that I cant afford to go to a doctor, so that some unproductive individual can go for free at my expense.
Now, what happens when every one in the country decides to kick back, not work and just collect the free stuff,, who is going to pay for that?

AFDC no longer exists; TANF replaced it. Thus the Welfare Queens of yesteryear no longer exist.

Millions of people used the emergency room (ER) for routine health problems at an enormous cost to local taxpayers and a heavy burden for local governments. The PPACA, Medicare and Medicaid reforms, have ameliorated the burden on taxpayers and provided health care for many who didn't have it or could not purchase it because of on going health problems.

Why can't you afford health insurance? it could be you governor choose to opt out of the new health care law, or you simply didn't apply for the subsidy. In any event take the advice you would give to the apocryphal welfare queen and get off the internet and work harder to improve your life. It is all about you taking personal responsibility.

Actually, I still have insurance through my employer. However, should that be removed and force me to go to the inferior ACA, My coverage would be less, and instead of 360 a month right now (4320 a year premium) and my 10 dollar copay with nothing out of pocket before it kicks in, I would go to 10,800 a year in premiums with a 12,400 out of pocket, so I would basically spend 23,200 a year for my coverage, while some bottom feeder pays 60 a month for better coverage than I can get.
This is nothing more than another redistribution of wealth.
And in Maryland even the illegals are able to get medical care, they should not. or at the very least their home country should pay the bill for their upkeep.

That's funny cuz I live in a very backward red state and ours got cheaper and we got better benefits, cheaper scrips and last year, got two refunds.

perhaps you are one of those with a low enough income that you get the subsidies paid for by those that make more. I am not eligible for any subsidies or lower prices, have to pay full amount so that the lazy can have for free.
I guess the good side of it all is that most of the welfare class live in Baltimore and they are killing themselves at an alarming rate. Those drive by shootings over Heroin really star to add up.

I pay full price.

In point of fact, you already pay for the less fortunate as well as abortions and live births of illegals. You have been paying for some years now. Its called EMTALA, a socialist law put into effect by your hero, Ronnie Ray-Gun.

ObamaCare, OTOH, does not allow illegals to sign up for the cheaper insurance.

Open your mind and educate yourself.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Star Trek episode 22 is a good example of socialist idiots, they want to be ruled by Landru and engage in festival at the red hour.

Star Trek.

STAR TREK??

Gee, why not Spiderman or X-Men?

Because Roddenberry was a visionary and you're an idiot.

I like Gene Roddenberry's work but its fiction.

Look it up.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why can't you afford health insurance? it could be you governor choose to opt out of the new health care law

This pisses me off. How can you be so ignorant? Seriously. How?

How would you like it if we were all sitting at the Bar and I sent you my tab (I drink Woodford reserve, BTW and my wife likes Dom...... A lot).

You wouldn't like that very much, would you?

Don't you think I should have cleared it with you first? Even if we're supposed to be buddies? Wouldn't it be nice if I talked to you about paying my $250 Bar Bill before I split out the door and stuck you with the tab?

Like this has never happened to you before? Maybe not the circumstances I'm playfully describing, but doesn't it kinda piss you off when you get committed to something you had no part in?

Like when the OL decides you have to drive her to her Mother's for no apparent good reason on Sunday in the middle of the Football Game?

Don't you think the Lying Cocksucker in Chief and the SCUMBAGS in the dimocrap party that forced this bill on America should have checked with the States they were forcing to participate first?

If not, you are one dishonest piece of shit.

But -- You're a dimocrap. What else can we expect.

And an OBTW..... I am ALL FOR the ACA. I'm just pissed that dimocraps fucked it up........ Like you do everything you touch.

Everything. Every.Fucking.Thing you touch turns to shit.

I 'touched' you with my post. You might be correct.

Okay, that's a little wry humor, the facts are state and local government were overwhelmed by the cost of health care, for their employees and for those dependent on social services.

The PPACA isn't perfect, but what law passed by The Congress and signed by POTUS has ever been?

Yep.

Medicare was a disaster when it was first enacted. Its now very effective and comes in under budget. Works very well.

If we can get the GOP out of the way, we can make progress with ACA.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

No True American likes Socialism.

You do.

Know how you can tell?

Look at your avatar.

What is that surface the car is sitting on?

Who paid for that?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Star Trek episode 22 is a good example of socialist idiots, they want to be ruled by Landru and engage in festival at the red hour.

21....just sayin....

 

[Flash]

Socialism can be funded for awhile until the wealth accumulated by capitalism runs out then everybody is pretty much screwed. Just ask the people of Greece if you have trouble understanding that concept.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Well, I like paved roads, police, fire fighters, schools, our science institutions. So yes, some socialism is a good thing.

We really do work together to make this society function!!!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

A very basic fact of life is that there is strength in numbers.

Its nonsense to say that we can be as strong alone as we are together.

Those who disagree might want to look long and hard at US military.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Socialism can be funded for awhile until the wealth accumulated by capitalism runs out then everybody is pretty much screwed. Just ask the people of Greece if you have trouble understanding that concept.

citizens have been funding our roads, police, schools and science institutions for hundreds of years. We have gained more wealth through doing so!!! There's a difference between good investments and just handing money out to a bum! Something you don't understand.

 

[BluesLegend]

Star Trek episode 22 is a good example of socialist idiots, they want to be ruled by Landru and engage in festival at the red hour.

Star Trek.

STAR TREK??

Gee, why not Spiderman or X-Men?

Because Roddenberry was a visionary and you're an idiot.

I like Gene Roddenberry's work but its fiction.

Look it up.

Then you will appreciate this, my new nickname for you is Herbert!

 

[Rambunctious]

Socialism makes everything the same...mediocre. I want the best of the best for America. Get off of your lazy socialist asses and do great things and stop looking for a bail out from your neighbor.

 

[francoHFW]

OP- True, but after years of Pub/Cold War indoctrination, not many know what it is. NOT COMMUNISM! Always democratic.

"Now we're all socialists"- Finland PM when O-Care passed.

 

[Desperado]

No True American likes Socialism.

You do.

Know how you can tell?

Look at your avatar.

What is that surface the car is sitting on?

Who paid for that?

If you want to get technical, it is a parking lot of a church. So I suppose the church's congregation paid for it.
However, The point you are trying to make is that you think the roads are socialist. that is really stretching it.
Anyway thanks for playing.