New Documents Show Obama Involved In The Flynn Scandal

[Uncensored2008]

No, he had no right whatsoever. Flynn had no official government role at the time, while telling Russia what they needed to do in regards to the sanctions. Then he lied that the conversation ever took place. We had sanctions against Russia, and Flynn was cutting deals with an adversary that invaded Ukraine, and he did all this behind the back of a sitting president. Put him in jail for going against our country.

One of the more dishonest things Billy the Bagman said in his statement letting the confessed criminal Flynn off the hook was that Flynn's call to Kislyak was appropriate. That would be true if all Flynn did was introduce himself as the future NSA and say something innocuous like he looked forward to working with the ambassador.

But instead he advised Kislyak not to have Russia react to Obama's sanctions. Notably, before he was legally able to offer any advice that went against what was then the official policy of the US. (see the Logan Act)

Why give that advice to Russia? Because when Trump became prez he had no intention of having Russia pay a price for the election interference that helped him win.

Obama's KGB bugged the call, what does it say, you traitor fuck?

The transcripts are here for all to read, traitor motherfucker - so what does it say?

 

[BWK]

but they never released it, did they? Was any of the dossier used during the campaign? NO.

It was reported by buzzfeed and CNN. It was used (and sworn to a judge that it was legit) to obrain 4 FISA warrents to illegally spy on the Trump campaign...AND the transition team...and it was the foundation for the entire "russia collusion" coup attempt!

Atleast you are FINALLY admitting that the dossier is bullshit! That's a STEP in the right direction.

Negative! Zero evidence of that, and you cannot provide any evidence of that.

Is this a joke?

Every word I wrote is WELL documented and has been for 1-3 years.

Now should we argue that the grass isn't really green?

What you are saying, and what news outlets are saying have no relationship with one another. Secondly, you are lying. And third, you will not, and cannot prove me wrong. How do I know? Because I already know myself what the final story actually was about, and this explanation by you, is not one of them;
It was reported by buzzfeed and CNN. It was used (and sworn to a judge that it was legit) to obrain 4 FISA warrents to illegally spy on the Trump campaign...AND the transition team...and it was the foundation for the entire "russia collusion" coup attempt!

Atleast you are FINALLY admitting that the dossier is bullshit! That's a STEP in the right direction. Buzzfeed and CNN, said no such thing. They never said there were 4 FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Trump campaign. Why do you lie?

 

[BWK]

There is zero evidence of any perjury trap.

The whole concept of a perjury trap is a deceitful canard designed to excuse Trump's refusal to answer Mueller's questions in person.

Trump wouldn't fall into Mueller's perjury trap so that proves that Flynn wasn't the victim of a perjury trap. Got it.

Even the 10 second Google shows the term in common use as early as 1981 but it probably goes far, far, back from there; it's just not necessary for me to look further because you've already been proven to be a liar, once again.

There is no such thing as a perjury trap, and Trump himself told us he fired Flynn because he lied to Mike Pence. Now he wants to do a 180? I don't think so.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.

the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

 

[Levant]

contrary to all of his promises not to do so, and in contravention of the non-proliferation agreement that is our policy, Hussein Obama guaranteed nuclear weapons to Iran....and you can't see a problem with that.

Naturally, the opposite is true.

Claim 17: The deal, if implemented, will expire after 10 or 15 years and allow Iran to build a nuclear weapon at that time.
The Facts:
According to the comprehensive agreement, for at least 15 years, Iran will only enrich uranium up to 3.67 percent (uranium enriched at 20% or lower is considered low enriched uranium (LEU); uranium enriched above 90% is weapons grade.)

This does not, however, mean that on day one of year 16, Iran will have enough weapons-grade uranium to build a bomb. Yes, after 15 years Iran could begin enriching uranium beyond 3.67 percent. But without this deal, Iran could head for a bomb tomorrow.

Some aspects of the agreement will last 25 years, including the monitoring of Iran’s uranium mines and supply chain. Other aspects, such as the implementation of robust IAEA safeguards and access to investigate suspicious sites for illicit nuclear activity, are permanent. Regardless of what specific restrictions are lifted, Iran is still prohibited from pursuing nuclear weapons. Any activity that is clearly not intended for “peaceful use” (i.e. highly enriching uranium) will raise red flags and trigger a response from the international community.

Ultimately, the deal rolls back Iran’s nuclear program for more than a decade, pushing Iran’s “breakout time” (time it would take to enrich enough nuclear material for 1 nuclear weapon) from a few months to at least one year. It also gives IAEA inspectors greater insight for monitoring Iran’s nuclear program well into the future.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

A factsheet to address the claims made by the opposition to the Iran deal.

armscontrolcenter.org

Iran Nuclear Deal Is Working Despite Trump's Withdrawal

"We continue to assess that Iran is not currently undertaking the key nuclear weapons-development activities we judge necessary to produce a nuclear device," Dan Coats said.

www.newsweek.com

A better deal would have been a million NATO troops on the ground for cleanup work after a weeks long Shock-and-Awe campaign to destroy the facilities above or near ground and to destroy their ability to go in or get out of the rubble or to defend against the attack. Now that's a nuclear deal that would have protected Israel and America.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Am wondering why he pled guilty twice if he was innocence?

So Strzok would have his men stop raping his wife - you fucking traitor moron.

It was a coerced confession. They threatened his family - CREDIBLE threats.

 

[BWK]

Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.

the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

None of this is true. They're all lies, and you cannot prove any of it.

 

[colfax_m]

criminal investigation of who ordered this needs to be launched by the DOJ....

What crime is being investigated?

CONSPIRACY!!!

Conspiracy to do what?

To frame a sitting president in a crime...ummmm sounds illegal to me....

Totally delusional. No one tried to frame anyone.

We have the documents that prove the FBI tried to frame Flynn...aren't you paying attention?...what news agency are you watching?...

Flynn wasn’t framed. I’m paying attention. Are you?

Yes he was....The prosecution deliberately failed to adhere to disclosure rules and laws, including all the exculpitory evidence they had on hand......That is the very definition of a frame-up.

Nope. “Framing” someone means making it look like the defendant did something he didn’t actually do. There was no framing here. Flynn lied. We all know he did.

The prosecution has not failed to follow the disclosure rules. No exculpatory evidence has been revealed.

Fucking commie moron.

Strzok, Comey and Weissman lied REPEATEDLY to Ltg. Flynn. They BRAG about lying to entrap Flynn (per orders from Obama). Flynn "lied" about a materially insignificant issue (time/date) that even traitor Comey acknowledged was a lapse of memory.

YOU FUCKING TRAITORS rigged the 2016 election, and when that failed, you moved on to this attempted coup.

The whole lot of you must be executed. (Except Mueller - he was not mentally competent during any of this.)

None of this of course is true, nor can it be proven. As a matter of fact, by way of evidence and documentation, everything you just said, is exactly the opposite.

ALL of it IS proven you ChiCom pile of shit - have you been asleep for the last week? It's all unraveled.

Nope. Flynn still lied. Nothing changed that.

You’re an idiot and a violent one at that. You’re dangerous because you’re angry and easily manipulated.

 

[BWK]

1. It is always dangerous to point out that the idol, the worshiped one, the one they called god, Jesus and the messiah, had 'feet of clay.'
And, a head to match.

But....even worse, that he is an evil, malevolent, iniquitous individual deserving of contumely and jail time.
And....he is.



2. Now that the facts about the Flynn perjury trap are no longer deniable, let's get to the head of the problem.

"Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."
Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe

and

"Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation"
Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation



3. When Hussein had his meeting with Trump, he warned him of two things.

One was North Korea.
The other was of Flynn

"Obama Warned Trump Against Hiring Flynn
In 2014, Mr. Obama, a Democrat, fired the then-lieutenant general from that senior Pentagon post. "

Obama Warned Trump Against Hiring Flynn

Former President Barack Obama warned then President-elect Donald Trump against hiring Mike Flynn as his national security adviser because of Mr. Flynn’s checkered service as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

www.wsj.com

4. Why the enmity?
One simple reason.....Flynn opposed Hussein Obama's signature foreign policy aim: to nuclear arm his co-religionists in the 7th century barbarian kingdom. Flynn saw through the absurd plan to arm the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism, and advance a deal that never had any inspections of the murderous blood-drenched savages.

"Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal
...moving behind the scenes to kneecap someone they've long viewed as a threat to the future of their signature accord.
... include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed."

Report: Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal

Subterfuge.

townhall.com

5. "Why would he be of anywhere near that importance to be put in the same conversation as the nuclear-armed dictator of North Korea?

The answer, I believe, is a four letter word: Iran.

The Iran Deal (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action or JCPOA) was, with the Affordable Care Act, one of the twin pillars of Obama’s presidency on which he wanted to base his legacy."

Why was Mike Flynn targeted by Obama and FBI?

Roger Simon: The more we learn about the evils done to Michael Flynn, and they increase day by day, the more the FBI comes to resemble the...

prairiepundit.blogspot.com

Arming the homicidal and pathological Iranian regime is a threat to America, and to Western Civilization.
And Flynn was simply collateral damage.

This post show the drangement as you go down...

Starts out using the WSJ and ended up with the prairiepundit...


The main thing is, Trumpster accuse Obama of doing something with no real evidence for what Trump does out in the open...

Lets look at it Flynn pleaded Guilty, the Judge (even after FBI said no sentence) said that Flynn's crimes were so bad he needed to serve time.

Now all those sides had access to documnets which have been heavilly redacted.
Can you tell me what was redacted and thus makes you an expert on this case?

Barr has shown that he doesn't consider the the AG or DOJ apolitical offices...

So you are trying to accuse Obama of doing which Trump is doing in the open.

Charges against Fynn were dropped because they were bullshit. His lawyers forced him in to a piss poor plea agreement.

None of that is true. Flynn got caught lying to the FBI for committing treason against the US, period. Flynn had no government role at the time, and was doing foreign policy behind the back of a sitting president with a country that invaded a friend of ours.

 

[BWK]

criminal investigation of who ordered this needs to be launched by the DOJ....

What crime is being investigated?

CONSPIRACY!!!

Conspiracy to do what?

To frame a sitting president in a crime...ummmm sounds illegal to me....

Totally delusional. No one tried to frame anyone.

We have the documents that prove the FBI tried to frame Flynn...aren't you paying attention?...what news agency are you watching?...

Flynn wasn’t framed. I’m paying attention. Are you?

Yes he was....The prosecution deliberately failed to adhere to disclosure rules and laws, including all the exculpitory evidence they had on hand......That is the very definition of a frame-up.

Nope. “Framing” someone means making it look like the defendant did something he didn’t actually do. There was no framing here. Flynn lied. We all know he did.

The prosecution has not failed to follow the disclosure rules. No exculpatory evidence has been revealed.

Fucking commie moron.

Strzok, Comey and Weissman lied REPEATEDLY to Ltg. Flynn. They BRAG about lying to entrap Flynn (per orders from Obama). Flynn "lied" about a materially insignificant issue (time/date) that even traitor Comey acknowledged was a lapse of memory.

YOU FUCKING TRAITORS rigged the 2016 election, and when that failed, you moved on to this attempted coup.

The whole lot of you must be executed. (Except Mueller - he was not mentally competent during any of this.)

None of this of course is true, nor can it be proven. As a matter of fact, by way of evidence and documentation, everything you just said, is exactly the opposite.

ALL of it IS proven you ChiCom pile of shit - have you been asleep for the last week? It's all unraveled.

Nope. Flynn still lied. Nothing changed that.

You’re an idiot and a violent one at that. You’re dangerous because you’re angry and easily manipulated.

Absolutely! Some of these folks simply cannot take the truth.

 

[Levant]

The president has the right to fire anyone for any reason.

Not really. Did Nixon have the right to fire Archibald Cox? Arguably yes. Was he justifiably impeached for that and other matters? Yes. It's called ABUSE OF POWER.

Are you stupid or just a habitual liar? Serious question; you're certainly one or the other.

Nixon was never impeached, idiot.

 

[BWK]

I'm not, but you'd be proud to be as patriotic an American as Strzok is, unfortunately you're a traitor.

Stzrok will be watching Trump's inauguration speech from prison next year.

Never going to happen. Nothing was found.

 

[BWK]

The president has the right to fire anyone for any reason.

Not really. Did Nixon have the right to fire Archibald Cox? Arguably yes. Was he justifiably impeached for that and other matters? Yes. It's called ABUSE OF POWER.

Are you stupid or just a habitual liar? Serious question; you're certainly one or the other.

Nixon was never impeached, idiot.

He resigned instead. He was going to be impeached, had he not resigned. It's the same thing.

 

[BWK]

The "fact" of the matter is when Steele was put under oath...he claimed the dossiers were never supposed to be taken as f

So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda.

Maybe that is what Presidents do? Seems to be.

And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? Would you have ignored it? Both the articles you supplied were from 2018 AFTER the infamous Trump Tower meeting with that Russian lawyer. Do you see no possible tie to the Trump campaign when the emails SAID the Russian government was assisting the Trump campaign?

"So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda."

You're confusing two separate issues.

But....confusion seems to be your mode and madness.

I never said Obama couldn't fire any who didn't fit in his vision, did I.



"And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? "

There was no such interference, so there was nothing to uncover, you dolt.



Now....for any others who suffer from the same short-term memory loss that clearly interferes with any learning on your part:
Trump and Clinton spent $81M on US election Facebook ads, Russian agency $46K
Facebook had previously announced that $100,000 was spent on Facebook ads from June 2015 to May 2017 by Russian-linked disinformation sources, while an additional $50,000 was spent by Russians that signals indicate weren’t or were only weakly connected to an organized disinformation campaign.

Trump and Clinton spent $81M on US election Facebook ads, Russian agency $46K | TechCrunch

Russian information troll farm the Internert Research Agency spent just 0.05 percent as much on Facebook ads as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump's campaigns combined in the run-up to the 2016 U.S. presidential election. While there might have been other Russian disinformation groups, the IRA...

techcrunch.com

There were 100 thousand Facebook adds by Russian sources……out of billions of ads….

What's the percentage?



"We know, for example, that some institution linked to the Russian government — likely the infamous Internet Research Agency — bought ads on Facebook between 2015 and 2017, with the assumed intent of stoking anger and partisanship. We know that the ads concerned wedge issues like immigration, the Second Amendment, and police brutality; we even know what some of the Russian pages and accounts were. And we know that around 3,000 ads were purchased at a cost of around $100,000.

… the $100,000 spent by the Russian government is laughably small, no matter how precisely targeted. In contrast, the official Trump campaign spent $90 million on digital ads — and, unlike the Russians, had assistance from Facebook employees to target and deploy them effectively. “There’s no way $100,000 in ad budget impacted the election. It’s ridiculous,” García Martínez said."

Did Russia’s Facebook Ads Actually Swing the Election?

If you’re most worried about ads, you’re missing the bigger picture.

nymag.com

Buying ads is one thing. Having posters posing on FaceBook and no doubt here as well arguing in ways to either divide us OR champion Trump cost how much? That's not added into the equation, yet they had an entire building full of people dedicated to it. That had a lot more impact. How many people pay attention to ads? Some maybe, but the constant claims made by Russian posers to poison social media? THAT is what had real influence.

So it happened. The next logical step is figuring out if the candidate being favored --or anyone else-- was "in on it." That is what the Mueller report did. It made perfect sense to look at his campaign. He was not found guilty of anything. A few of his campaign people were caught in shady deals, but not in relation to the Russian influence. So it has been over and done with for quite some time.

I still don't see why you are bringing it up again.

This is the only actual evidence of the Kremlin's plans and desires:


Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the infamous 'dossier' came from Russia.

Now.....if Putin wanted Trump to win.......would there have ever.......ever.....been a dossier?????


QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.

My understanding is that Steele, who is an ex-spy, used his old contacts in Moscow to get the information. They were intelligence contacts willing to talk to a foreign agent (Steele). You think they cleared that with Putin? lol

That is why Steele put up the clear disclaimer when the dossier went to the FBI that IT HAD NOT BEEN CORROBORATED.

Sure the Democrats would find those rumors useful, you would think, but they never released it, did they? Was any of the dossier used during the campaign? NO.

For God's sake, Old Lady...the Clinton Campaign made sure salacious details from the dossiers were leaked to the public in the weeks leading up to the election! They did it late enough that the Trump campaign wouldn't be able to expose it for the crap that it was but early enough that a compliant main stream media would go with the story right before people went to the polls!

Much of the Dossier has been born out to be true. You are lying.

 

[lantern2814]

With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.

The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one ca

With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.

The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.

"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

Collusion aside, Mueller found abundant evidence of Russian election plot

The report also underscored the urgency of fixing the nation’s election security gaps before 2020.

www.politico.com

Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.

 

[BWK]

1. It is always dangerous to point out that the idol, the worshiped one, the one they called god, Jesus and the messiah, had 'feet of clay.'
And, a head to match.

But....even worse, that he is an evil, malevolent, iniquitous individual deserving of contumely and jail time.
And....he is.



2. Now that the facts about the Flynn perjury trap are no longer deniable, let's get to the head of the problem.

"Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."
Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe

and

"Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation"
Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation



3. When Hussein had his meeting with Trump, he warned him of two things.

One was North Korea.
The other was of Flynn

"Obama Warned Trump Against Hiring Flynn
In 2014, Mr. Obama, a Democrat, fired the then-lieutenant general from that senior Pentagon post. "

Obama Warned Trump Against Hiring Flynn

Former President Barack Obama warned then President-elect Donald Trump against hiring Mike Flynn as his national security adviser because of Mr. Flynn’s checkered service as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

www.wsj.com

4. Why the enmity?
One simple reason.....Flynn opposed Hussein Obama's signature foreign policy aim: to nuclear arm his co-religionists in the 7th century barbarian kingdom. Flynn saw through the absurd plan to arm the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism, and advance a deal that never had any inspections of the murderous blood-drenched savages.

"Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal
...moving behind the scenes to kneecap someone they've long viewed as a threat to the future of their signature accord.
... include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed."

Report: Obama Allies Torpedoed Flynn to Protect Iran Deal

Subterfuge.

townhall.com

5. "Why would he be of anywhere near that importance to be put in the same conversation as the nuclear-armed dictator of North Korea?

The answer, I believe, is a four letter word: Iran.

The Iran Deal (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action or JCPOA) was, with the Affordable Care Act, one of the twin pillars of Obama’s presidency on which he wanted to base his legacy."

Why was Mike Flynn targeted by Obama and FBI?

Roger Simon: The more we learn about the evils done to Michael Flynn, and they increase day by day, the more the FBI comes to resemble the...

prairiepundit.blogspot.com

Arming the homicidal and pathological Iranian regime is a threat to America, and to Western Civilization.
And Flynn was simply collateral damage.

This post show the drangement as you go down...

Starts out using the WSJ and ended up with the prairiepundit...


The main thing is, Trumpster accuse Obama of doing something with no real evidence for what Trump does out in the open...

Lets look at it Flynn pleaded Guilty, the Judge (even after FBI said no sentence) said that Flynn's crimes were so bad he needed to serve time.

Now all those sides had access to documnets which have been heavilly redacted.
Can you tell me what was redacted and thus makes you an expert on this case?

Barr has shown that he doesn't consider the the AG or DOJ apolitical offices...

So you are trying to accuse Obama of doing which Trump is doing in the open.

Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?


First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, one after another lead balloons.

Nothing failed. Collusion was proven and obstruction is an indictable offense when Trump leaves office.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.

the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

None of this is true. They're all lies, and you cannot prove any of it.

It's all over the news, ChiCom troll. What the fuck retard, that's what this is all about - your little bitches on your leash, the democrats, engaged in treason. That's a fact.

 

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The "fact" of the matter is when Steele was put under oath...he claimed the dossiers were never supposed to be taken as f

So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda.

Maybe that is what Presidents do? Seems to be.

And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? Would you have ignored it? Both the articles you supplied were from 2018 AFTER the infamous Trump Tower meeting with that Russian lawyer. Do you see no possible tie to the Trump campaign when the emails SAID the Russian government was assisting the Trump campaign?

"So Obama chased out Flynn because he opposed the Iran deal. That makes Obama a criminal. Yet it was perfectly alright for Trump to fire how many people, like Sessions, Tillerson, et al. for not going along with Trump's agenda."

You're confusing two separate issues.

But....confusion seems to be your mode and madness.

I never said Obama couldn't fire any who didn't fit in his vision, did I.



"And as far as the Russia probe, are you seriously criticizing Obama and the Intelligence Agencies and the FBI from looking into the widespread Russian interference in the election they had uncovered? "

There was no such interference, so there was nothing to uncover, you dolt.



Now....for any others who suffer from the same short-term memory loss that clearly interferes with any learning on your part:
Trump and Clinton spent $81M on US election Facebook ads, Russian agency $46K
Facebook had previously announced that $100,000 was spent on Facebook ads from June 2015 to May 2017 by Russian-linked disinformation sources, while an additional $50,000 was spent by Russians that signals indicate weren’t or were only weakly connected to an organized disinformation campaign.

Trump and Clinton spent $81M on US election Facebook ads, Russian agency $46K | TechCrunch

Russian information troll farm the Internert Research Agency spent just 0.05 percent as much on Facebook ads as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump's campaigns combined in the run-up to the 2016 U.S. presidential election. While there might have been other Russian disinformation groups, the IRA...

techcrunch.com

There were 100 thousand Facebook adds by Russian sources……out of billions of ads….

What's the percentage?



"We know, for example, that some institution linked to the Russian government — likely the infamous Internet Research Agency — bought ads on Facebook between 2015 and 2017, with the assumed intent of stoking anger and partisanship. We know that the ads concerned wedge issues like immigration, the Second Amendment, and police brutality; we even know what some of the Russian pages and accounts were. And we know that around 3,000 ads were purchased at a cost of around $100,000.

… the $100,000 spent by the Russian government is laughably small, no matter how precisely targeted. In contrast, the official Trump campaign spent $90 million on digital ads — and, unlike the Russians, had assistance from Facebook employees to target and deploy them effectively. “There’s no way $100,000 in ad budget impacted the election. It’s ridiculous,” García Martínez said."

Did Russia’s Facebook Ads Actually Swing the Election?

If you’re most worried about ads, you’re missing the bigger picture.

nymag.com

Buying ads is one thing. Having posters posing on FaceBook and no doubt here as well arguing in ways to either divide us OR champion Trump cost how much? That's not added into the equation, yet they had an entire building full of people dedicated to it. That had a lot more impact. How many people pay attention to ads? Some maybe, but the constant claims made by Russian posers to poison social media? THAT is what had real influence.

So it happened. The next logical step is figuring out if the candidate being favored --or anyone else-- was "in on it." That is what the Mueller report did. It made perfect sense to look at his campaign. He was not found guilty of anything. A few of his campaign people were caught in shady deals, but not in relation to the Russian influence. So it has been over and done with for quite some time.

I still don't see why you are bringing it up again.

This is the only actual evidence of the Kremlin's plans and desires:


Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the infamous 'dossier' came from Russia.

Now.....if Putin wanted Trump to win.......would there have ever.......ever.....been a dossier?????


QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.

My understanding is that Steele, who is an ex-spy, used his old contacts in Moscow to get the information. They were intelligence contacts willing to talk to a foreign agent (Steele). You think they cleared that with Putin? lol

That is why Steele put up the clear disclaimer when the dossier went to the FBI that IT HAD NOT BEEN CORROBORATED.

Sure the Democrats would find those rumors useful, you would think, but they never released it, did they? Was any of the dossier used during the campaign? NO.

For God's sake, Old Lady...the Clinton Campaign made sure salacious details from the dossiers were leaked to the public in the weeks leading up to the election! They did it late enough that the Trump campaign wouldn't be able to expose it for the crap that it was but early enough that a compliant main stream media would go with the story right before people went to the polls!

Much of the Dossier has been born out to be true. You are lying.

Oh really, post the parts proven to be true (this ought to be good for a laugh).

 

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With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.

The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one ca

With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.

The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.

"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

Collusion aside, Mueller found abundant evidence of Russian election plot

The report also underscored the urgency of fixing the nation’s election security gaps before 2020.

www.politico.com

Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.

He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.

 

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criminal investigation of who ordered this needs to be launched by the DOJ....

What crime is being investigated?

CONSPIRACY!!!

Conspiracy to do what?

To frame a sitting president in a crime...ummmm sounds illegal to me....

Totally delusional. No one tried to frame anyone.

We have the documents that prove the FBI tried to frame Flynn...aren't you paying attention?...what news agency are you watching?...

Flynn wasn’t framed. I’m paying attention. Are you?

Yes he was....The prosecution deliberately failed to adhere to disclosure rules and laws, including all the exculpitory evidence they had on hand......That is the very definition of a frame-up.

Nope. “Framing” someone means making it look like the defendant did something he didn’t actually do. There was no framing here. Flynn lied. We all know he did.

The prosecution has not failed to follow the disclosure rules. No exculpatory evidence has been revealed.

Fucking commie moron.

Strzok, Comey and Weissman lied REPEATEDLY to Ltg. Flynn. They BRAG about lying to entrap Flynn (per orders from Obama). Flynn "lied" about a materially insignificant issue (time/date) that even traitor Comey acknowledged was a lapse of memory.

YOU FUCKING TRAITORS rigged the 2016 election, and when that failed, you moved on to this attempted coup.

The whole lot of you must be executed. (Except Mueller - he was not mentally competent during any of this.)

None of this of course is true, nor can it be proven. As a matter of fact, by way of evidence and documentation, everything you just said, is exactly the opposite.

ALL of it IS proven you ChiCom pile of shit - have you been asleep for the last week? It's all unraveled.

Nope. Flynn still lied. Nothing changed that.

You’re an idiot and a violent one at that. You’re dangerous because you’re angry and easily manipulated.

Absolutely! Some of these folks simply cannot take the truth.

The number of zombie lies about this case is astounding.