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Which makes sense. Even the terrified, primitive people that were alive then and inventing the myths had basic notions of morality.Lots of Bible stories begin with the slaughter of innocents. Sort of weird.
The problem with reading those accounts as if the point of the account is that God is a meanie is that it is 100% at odds with how they described God. So, that can't be the point of those accounts. Which should make one want to investigate these accounts deeper.Lots of Bible stories begin with the slaughter of innocents. Sort of weird.
No. It makes no sense whatsoever. It is 100% at odds with their stated perception of God. You are a hammer looking for a nail.Which makes sense. Even the terrified, primitive people that were alive then and inventing the myths had basic notions of morality.
They were faced with squaring a benevolent, all powerful God with all the horror in the world. Just as we are today.
"That God does not exist" not being an option, they went to work inventing myths to fit the square peg in the round hole.
The problem with reading those accounts as if the point of the account is that God is a meanie is that it is 100% at odds with how they described God. So, that can't be the point of those accounts. Which should make one want to investigate these accounts deeper.
I dont necessarily doubt that. I just dont believe the god of the bible did it. For the reasons i just listed.Seems like a poor reason for not believing intelligence created existence.
It's easy to get distracted.You mean like the firstborn of Egypt or Herod killing the two year olds.. Herod the Great was long dead. Probably didn't happen at all.
I didn't say to look at it from someone else's perspective. Look for the meaning of the passages (the message the author was intending to convey) within the context of the whole Bible and don't let yourself get distracted by embellishment and mythology within the passages.I dont necessarily doubt that. I just dont believe the god of the bible did it. For the reasons i just listed.
I read it for what it says. You say I need to look at it from someone elses perspective. I dont believe in doing that. I use that same belief on just about everything.
If im reading something but im supposed to read it another way, why didnt it just get written that way? Makes no sense.
Especially with something as important as the bible.
I understand that, man. The only message i get from the horror stories of the bible is, God is a homicidal maniac.I didn't say to look at it from someone else's perspective. Look for the meaning of the passages (the message the author was intending to convey) within the context of the whole Bible and don't let yourself get distracted by embellishment and mythology within the passages.
Then you are reading it wrong. Do you really believe it's just an accident that the universe popped into existence being hardwired to produce intelligence? Serious question.I understand that, man. The only message i get from the horror stories of the bible is, God is a homicidal maniac.
Its possible. I dont discount much of anything. Hek man, I dont even discount the astronaut theory for our origins. In fact, I think thats my favorite one lolThen you are reading it wrong. Do you really believe it's just an accident that the universe popped into existence being hardwired to produce intelligence? Serious question.
What's possible? It's just a happy coincidence? Or it was an intentional creative act?Its possible. I dont discount much of anything. Hek man, I dont even discount the astronaut theory for our origins. In fact, I think thats my favorite one lol
I dont discount either. Both seem crazy but something had to happenWhat's possible? It's just a happy coincidence? Or it was an intentional creative act?
I don't see how it can't be one of these two mutually exclusive options. Either the universe was created intentionally or it's just a coincidence the universe popped into existence being hardwired to produce intelligence.I dont discount either. Both seem crazy but something had to happen
Did you read it in the language in which it was originally written?If im reading something but im supposed to read it another way, why didnt it just get written that way? Makes no sense.
And so do mothers, soldiers, doctors, etc etc. All legally.WM = "so god killed the babies"
TN = Thank you so i was right when i said god killed the babies"
WM = god didnt kill the babies. He killed the babies of sinners"
This is about hwo this convo is going. Because you are such a nutter, you will say ANYTHING.
He was pretty clear about that being magical, childish nonsense. So it's like you are accusing him of not liking a TV character or the plot of the show.You only have a problem with God and don’t like the penalty for adultery.
Bingo.He was pretty clear about that being magical, childish nonsense. So it's like you are accusing him of not liking a TV character or the plot of the show.
Yep. It's almost as if he finds the fake God character in the Bible to be unsavory.Bingo.
I wont argue with thatI don't see how it can't be one of these two mutually exclusive options. Either the universe was created intentionally or it's just a coincidence the universe popped into existence being hardwired to produce intelligence.
And society is paying the price for those doing so.Yep. It's almost as if he finds the fake God character in the Bible to be unsavory.
Especially since he has explicitly said so.
