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Those are just voices in your head.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?what gaps?
Many articles that show the gaps not only geographical but other gaps because of privately owned land. It’s a pipe dream that will all be covered. I would rather they give the billions it will cost to the border patrols and States to let them use the resources more efficiently.
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
no wall, no deal, again, it's simple.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?what gaps?You mean the wall whose prototype US SpecOps members could not get over / around, as reported? [emoji57]
No I am talking about the wall that will geographically have miles and miles of gaps. If Spec Ops can’t go around a wall they shouldn’t be Spec Ops. [emoji6]
Many articles that show the gaps not only geographical but other gaps because of privately owned land. It’s a pipe dream that will all be covered. I would rather they give the billions it will cost to the border patrols and States to let them use the resources more efficiently.
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
so is the president. no wall, no deal, again, it's that simple.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?what gaps?
Many articles that show the gaps not only geographical but other gaps because of privately owned land. It’s a pipe dream that will all be covered. I would rather they give the billions it will cost to the border patrols and States to let them use the resources more efficiently.
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
Those are just voices in your head.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?Many articles that show the gaps not only geographical but other gaps because of privately owned land. It’s a pipe dream that will all be covered. I would rather they give the billions it will cost to the border patrols and States to let them use the resources more efficiently.
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
We get it. You want status quo, open borders, and you applaud Schumer for standing with Illegals over Americans but hate him because he caved. I may be wrong, but it sure seems that way.
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The Dreamers should stay if only because their presence here is water under the bridge, so to speak. Grandfather them in, make a new policy if you want, and move on.
So if broke into somebody's house last week then I should not be charged with trespass now because it is "water under the bridge"? LOL!
Use some common sense like 80% of Americans, and now at least for the moment including Trump, are using.
It is not common sense, you stupid Moon Bat, to allow shithole countries to import their poverty to the US.
You inability to understand that speaks volumes as to why we call you Libtard idiots "Moon Bats".
so is the president. no wall, no deal, again, it's that simple.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?Many articles that show the gaps not only geographical but other gaps because of privately owned land. It’s a pipe dream that will all be covered. I would rather they give the billions it will cost to the border patrols and States to let them use the resources more efficiently.
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
8 years of proof under Obama.How does suggesting giving that budget to the border patrol and States equate to “I want open borders”?
no wall no deal. again are you that naive still?so is the president. no wall, no deal, again, it's that simple.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
So you're good with amnesty and a path to citizenship for the DACA 'illegals' if you get the American taxpayers to come up with the money the Mexicans were supposed to come up with for your wall?
no wall no deal. again are you that naive still?so is the president. no wall, no deal, again, it's that simple.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
So you're good with amnesty and a path to citizenship for the DACA 'illegals' if you get the American taxpayers to come up with the money the Mexicans were supposed to come up with for your wall?
I never did. so you won't find it. no wall no deal.no wall no deal. again are you that naive still?so is the president. no wall, no deal, again, it's that simple.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.
That’s who I am listening to.
So you're good with amnesty and a path to citizenship for the DACA 'illegals' if you get the American taxpayers to come up with the money the Mexicans were supposed to come up with for your wall?
When did you endorse amnesty for the Dreamers? Take us back to that post.
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So you're admitting that Trump lacks common sense along with 80% of the American people.
Interesting.
Will all of his cult flip flop and claim that was a good idea all along?
https://www.usnews.com/news/ken-wal...-trump-suggests-citizenship-path-for-dreamers
... and Question #2 will all the left wing dingbats give him any credit for doing the right thing?
My guess is that the whole script will "flip flop", the Trumpkins that were against it will praise him for it and the left wing dingbats that wanted a pathway to citizenship for the "dreamers" will criticize him for it and try to come up with some convoluted, disingenuous argument that Obama should be given the credit.
If Trump agrees to a reasonable outcome for DACA, I will lower my rating of him to 94% asshole.
That's nice...
... what's even nicer is that you apparently acknowledge that you're a left wing dingbat.
"My work here is done" -- Anthony Hope, Prisoner of Zenda
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So you're admitting that Trump lacks common sense along with 80% of the American people.
Interesting.
DACA is wrong no matter who supports it.
The Democrats need it to get future welfare queen voters. They are not a viable party without welfare queens and Illelgals.
Trump is using it as a negotiating tool to get broader immigration reform that the assholes Democrats would never agree to without DACA. Great reforms like building the wall, an end to chain immigration and merit based immigration. All things the filthy Democrats despise because it doesn't grow their welfare queen base, which they desperately need if they ever expect to win an election.
You would know things like this if you didn't have your head up your Libtard ass.
I never did. so you won't find it. no wall no deal.no wall no deal. again are you that naive still?so is the president. no wall, no deal, again, it's that simple.That’s who I am listening to.
So you're good with amnesty and a path to citizenship for the DACA 'illegals' if you get the American taxpayers to come up with the money the Mexicans were supposed to come up with for your wall?
When did you endorse amnesty for the Dreamers? Take us back to that post.
Not to hijack the thread, but I wonder if Trump will flip flop again. And it's curious how he made this announcement, which isn't even his final say on what his initiative to resolve this is going to be.Will all of his cult flip flop and claim that was a good idea all along?
https://www.usnews.com/news/ken-wal...-trump-suggests-citizenship-path-for-dreamers
Why?Dreamers are illegals. They are not allowed to be on welfare. They must be working, serving in the military or attending school in order to even be a dreamer. So.....not eligible for benefits, have to be working.The Dreamers aren't deadbeats.[QU
True, so called “dreamers” are a drag on society. And represent votes for deadbeat progressives/socialists....
Young Deadbeats are the future of the Democrat Party and that is why the Libtards are fighting to keep the DACA pricks here.
They are imported welfare queens for the despicable Democrat Party. That is why the Democrats are fighting so hard to keep the little shitheads in the country. Only Moon Bats would be in denial of that..
Try again.
The Dreamers should stay if only because their presence here is water under the bridge, so to speak. Grandfather them in, make a new policy if you want, and move on.
Will all of his cult flip flop and claim that was a good idea all along?
https://www.usnews.com/news/ken-wal...-trump-suggests-citizenship-path-for-dreamers
... and Question #2 will all the left wing dingbats give him any credit for doing the right thing?
My guess is that the whole script will "flip flop", the Trumpkins that were against it will praise him for it and the left wing dingbats that wanted a pathway to citizenship for the "dreamers" will criticize him for it and try to come up with some convoluted, disingenuous argument that Obama should be given the credit.
If Trump agrees to a reasonable outcome for DACA, I will lower my rating of him to 94% asshole.
That's nice...
... what's even nicer is that you apparently acknowledge that you're a left wing dingbat.
"My work here is done" -- Anthony Hope, Prisoner of Zenda
lol, a few years from now you'll be smack dab in the middle of the crowd claiming they never really agreed with Trump much in the first place, or even liked him, or ever thought he was a good president.
The eventual 'Donald who?!" crowd.
Will all of his cult flip flop and claim that was a good idea all along?
https://www.usnews.com/news/ken-wal...-trump-suggests-citizenship-path-for-dreamers
All depends on what he can get out of it.
And like dems, he can promise something 10-12 years from now knowing it will never be delivered.
Like the border security that had approved funding but nothing appropriated for the past decade.
The left does want open borders. How do we know?Those are just voices in your head.Thanks for your expert opinion; however, I will take the word of REAL experts.Do you have links to the articles you are referring to?
Not all locations need a fence. Some, as you say, may not support a fence.....but if you can eliminate, I dunno, 1,000 square miles that currently have to be covered / protected by 1 or 2 USBPAs and reduce that number down to 20, that is an awesome thing.
You are arguing that
since the wall will not be one continuous wall then we should not even have one. That's stupid.
No I am arguing that if there are enough gaps it makes spending billions on a wall a waste of resources that could be better spent by the border patrol and the States securing the borders. The wall will end up being a money pit that we as tax payers will end up footing despite Trump’s lie about Mexico paying for it.
That’s who I am listening to.
We get it. You want status quo, open borders, and you applaud Schumer for standing with Illegals over Americans but hate him because he caved. I may be wrong, but it sure seems that way.
How does suggesting giving that budget to the border patrol and States equate to “I want open borders”? That’s the problem with you Trumpers. To make yourself feel better about your Messiah, his lies, you put words into people’s mouths like Liberals want open borders B.S. It’s asinine. If putting words into my mouth makes you feel better? Have at it.
