NOW The Truth Breaks!

Another thread where DorkFurry sides against America.
He's so unhappy that this incident ended without bloodshed and our sailors back.

It ended with no bloodshed and our sailors back, Thank God.

The problem is....IRAN had the power to decide that.

Do the Navy radios not work? Once these boats became endangered.....was it navigation or a mechanical problem (on both boats?)....why didn't our military immediately launch a rescue to rather than let a state sponsor of terror capture them and parade them on global media???
I think they were playing around and forgot where they were at. Maybe even had a few illegal bottles of something on board.

:alcoholic:
That there is funny!
Ten Seals and or Special OPs are going to get pissed up and play around on a couple of million dollar boats in one of the most dangerous stretches of water on earth while back at the ship the communications and navigation personnel track their every move.
 
Another thread where DorkFurry sides against America.
He's so unhappy that this incident ended without bloodshed and our sailors back.

It ended with no bloodshed and our sailors back, Thank God.

The problem is....IRAN had the power to decide that.

Do the Navy radios not work? Once these boats became endangered.....was it navigation or a mechanical problem (on both boats?)....why didn't our military immediately launch a rescue to rather than let a state sponsor of terror capture them and parade them on global media???
I think they were playing around and forgot where they were at. Maybe even had a few illegal bottles of something on board.

:alcoholic:
That there is funny!
Ten Seals and or Special OPs are going to get pissed up and play around on a couple of million dollar boats in one of the most dangerous stretches of water on earth while back at the ship the communications and navigation personnel track their every move.
Who said they were SEALS (not Seals) or Special Ops?
 
If this is true this is outrageous and I would expect Kerry to resign.

Hell, he'll want a medal.
He'll award himself the Silver Star Medal like he did in VN.
Everyone stop and THINK!
The US Navy KNEW where the two boats where every second. Ever heard of satellites and radar and the most sophisticated communication system on earth?
Someone tasked the ten Seals and or Special OPs to go snooping around the island. The Iranian Navy knew where two boats where EVERY SECOND. Ever heard of radar??????
Two million dollar US Navy boats don't have a total of four diesel engines just quit. THINK!
IF the two boats were supposedly going directly from point A to point B. How did they end up 50 fucking miles off course? THINK!!

The CB90 does have a very low radar sig but I couldnt say to what degree.
The thing I have a problem with is the whole getting lost bullshit. How is it that two Navy boats could get lost when I can go offshore with my store bought chart plotter and know exactly where I am at all times?
The shit aint rocket science...
Yes the radar sig is as small as possible obviously but the GPS system tells the ship where the CB's were to the foot.
 
If this is true this is outrageous and I would expect Kerry to resign.

Hell, he'll want a medal.
He'll award himself the Silver Star Medal like he did in VN.
Everyone stop and THINK!
The US Navy KNEW where the two boats where every second. Ever heard of satellites and radar and the most sophisticated communication system on earth?
Someone tasked the ten Seals and or Special OPs to go snooping around the island. The Iranian Navy knew where two boats where EVERY SECOND. Ever heard of radar??????
Two million dollar US Navy boats don't have a total of four diesel engines just quit. THINK!
IF the two boats were supposedly going directly from point A to point B. How did they end up 50 fucking miles off course? THINK!!

The CB90 does have a very low radar sig but I couldnt say to what degree.
The thing I have a problem with is the whole getting lost bullshit. How is it that two Navy boats could get lost when I can go offshore with my store bought chart plotter and know exactly where I am at all times?
The shit aint rocket science...
Yes the radar sig is as small as possible obviously but the GPS system tells the ship where the CB's were to the foot.

Like I said,my store bought chart plotter has never failed me.
I find it hard to believe that both boats would have failures in the high end equipment they use.
This almost sounds like a botched sneak and peek.
Any idea what time of day this went down? If it was dark I would have to go with a botched mission. If it was daylight I'd have to think something hinky was going on.
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees


it's so funny how you call a war hero a traitor.

that rant was cute, though.


John Kerry admitted to war crime and invented a delusional, fictional trip to Cambodia on Christmas. Your heroes suck


ohhh... are we talking about the winter soldiers again?

:lmao:

come on hon. you can do better.


Was your hero just making up stuff then too??
 
If this is true this is outrageous and I would expect Kerry to resign.

Hell, he'll want a medal.
He'll award himself the Silver Star Medal like he did in VN.
Everyone stop and THINK!
The US Navy KNEW where the two boats where every second. Ever heard of satellites and radar and the most sophisticated communication system on earth?
Someone tasked the ten Seals and or Special OPs to go snooping around the island. The Iranian Navy knew where two boats where EVERY SECOND. Ever heard of radar??????
Two million dollar US Navy boats don't have a total of four diesel engines just quit. THINK!
IF the two boats were supposedly going directly from point A to point B. How did they end up 50 fucking miles off course? THINK!!

The CB90 does have a very low radar sig but I couldnt say to what degree.
The thing I have a problem with is the whole getting lost bullshit. How is it that two Navy boats could get lost when I can go offshore with my store bought chart plotter and know exactly where I am at all times?
The shit aint rocket science...
Yes the radar sig is as small as possible obviously but the GPS system tells the ship where the CB's were to the foot.

Like I said,my store bought chart plotter has never failed me.
I find it hard to believe that both boats would have failures in the high end equipment they use.
This almost sounds like a botched sneak and peek.
Any idea what time of day this went down? If it was dark I would have to go with a botched mission. If it was daylight I'd have to think something hinky was going on.
Ya it was a botched snooping mission. Iran has dozens of 'Boston Whaler' type boats buzzing around everywhere. They all carry high tech radar 'smart' enough to track even low sig. CBs.
The Iranian boats captured/seized the CBs at day break.
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees



Please show where Kerry said this. Yes Kerry called Iran but probably after he was informed the Iranians had them. Carter got the prisoners released , not Reagan. Reagan was the one who called the Marines back home and there is no proof Iranians blew the building up.

He sure can spin the truth. SA is the terrorist of the Arab world.

The only way Carter got the hostages released was by leaving office. The Iranians were never going to release hostages while Carter lived in the White House. Never!
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees



Please show where Kerry said this. Yes Kerry called Iran but probably after he was informed the Iranians had them. Carter got the prisoners released , not Reagan. Reagan was the one who called the Marines back home and there is no proof Iranians blew the building up.

He sure can spin the truth. SA is the terrorist of the Arab world.

The only way Carter got the hostages released was by leaving office. The Iranians were never going to release hostages while Carter lived in the White House. Never!

The hostages were released literally the day Reagan was sworn in.
He had given the Ayatollahs 24 hours to release the hostages before the Ayatollahs would be vaporized by MOABs.
He meant it. The first thing Reagan signed was the order to attack known places were the Ayatollahs were living.
The Moabs were loaded aboard B52s and ready to take off when the hostages were released.
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees



Please show where Kerry said this. Yes Kerry called Iran but probably after he was informed the Iranians had them. Carter got the prisoners released , not Reagan. Reagan was the one who called the Marines back home and there is no proof Iranians blew the building up.

He sure can spin the truth. SA is the terrorist of the Arab world.

The only way Carter got the hostages released was by leaving office. The Iranians were never going to release hostages while Carter lived in the White House. Never!

The hostages were released literally the day Reagan was sworn in.
He had given the Ayatollahs 24 hours to release the hostages before the Ayatollahs would be vaporized by MOABs.
He meant it. The first thing Reagan signed was the order to attack known places were the Ayatollahs were living.
The Moabs were loaded aboard B52s and ready to take off when the hostages were released.

Yep....*wink *wink

And it had nothing to do with threats and everything to do with bribes.
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees



Please show where Kerry said this. Yes Kerry called Iran but probably after he was informed the Iranians had them. Carter got the prisoners released , not Reagan. Reagan was the one who called the Marines back home and there is no proof Iranians blew the building up.

He sure can spin the truth. SA is the terrorist of the Arab world.

The only way Carter got the hostages released was by leaving office. The Iranians were never going to release hostages while Carter lived in the White House. Never!

The hostages were released literally the day Reagan was sworn in.
He had given the Ayatollahs 24 hours to release the hostages before the Ayatollahs would be vaporized by MOABs.
He meant it. The first thing Reagan signed was the order to attack known places were the Ayatollahs were living.
The Moabs were loaded aboard B52s and ready to take off when the hostages were released.

Yep....*wink *wink

And it had nothing to do with threats and everything to do with bribes.


Wonder how much we paid them this time?
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH!

You soooo wanted this to be Gulf of Tonkin redux, didn't you?

You're not outraged that Iran committed an act of war and violated The Geneva Convention?
What act of war did they commit?

They kidnapped American servicemen, at gun point and held them hosrtage.

1. An act of war.
2. A violation of The Geneva Convention.
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees



Please show where Kerry said this. Yes Kerry called Iran but probably after he was informed the Iranians had them. Carter got the prisoners released , not Reagan. Reagan was the one who called the Marines back home and there is no proof Iranians blew the building up.

He sure can spin the truth. SA is the terrorist of the Arab world.

The only way Carter got the hostages released was by leaving office. The Iranians were never going to release hostages while Carter lived in the White House. Never!

The hostages were released literally the day Reagan was sworn in.
He had given the Ayatollahs 24 hours to release the hostages before the Ayatollahs would be vaporized by MOABs.
He meant it. The first thing Reagan signed was the order to attack known places were the Ayatollahs were living.
The Moabs were loaded aboard B52s and ready to take off when the hostages were released.


Exactly right, but Reagan had not a thing to do with it. Watch the debate of Oct between Carter and Reagan, Reagan said he'd 'pray for them".


"Iran contacted the Carter administration in September 1980 with a proposal to end the hostage crisis," said Gary Sick, a Columbia University professor who has written two books about the Iran hostage crisis. "The U.S. made a proposal. Iran responded with an unacceptable offer just a day or two before the election. Afterwards, they nominated the Algerians to act as intermediaries. Those valuable discussions went on until literally the day or two before the inauguration, and they were settled by the Iranians caving in on a number of issues that were extremely costly to them. By my calculations, the Iranians ended up paying about $300,000 per hostage per day of incarceration."

The agreement that led to the release, as described by the New York Times 11 days after it occured, revolved around $11 billion to $12 billion in Iranian assets that Carter had frozen 10 days after the seizure of the U.S. embassy. It had been negotiated over the course of several months before Reagan's inauguration.

Our ruling

We can’t read the Iranians’ minds, but seven scholars of the period told us that Reagan’s foreign policy approach was either a minor factor in the release of the hostages or not a factor at all. The fact that the deal was negotiated entirely by the Carter administration, without involvement by Reagan or his transition team, seems to support the expert consensus. Romney made a claim that flies in the face of history and offered no evidence to support it. We rate the statement Pants On Fire.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-iran-released-hostages-1981-becau/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers_Accords

The US chief negotiator was Deputy Secretary of StateWarren Christopher,[1] while the chief Algerian mediator was the Algerian Foreign Affairs Minister Mohammed Benyahia
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH!

You soooo wanted this to be Gulf of Tonkin redux, didn't you?

You're not outraged that Iran committed an act of war and violated The Geneva Convention?
What act of war did they commit?

They kidnapped American servicemen, at gun point and held them hosrtage.

1. An act of war.
2. A violation of The Geneva Convention.

Um, no they did not kidnap them, and yes when armed invaders come into your space , you do normally unarm them , and question them. No violation, we are not in war with Iran.
 
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It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH!

You soooo wanted this to be Gulf of Tonkin redux, didn't you?

You're not outraged that Iran committed an act of war and violated The Geneva Convention?
What act of war did they commit?

They kidnapped American servicemen, at gun point and held them hosrtage.

1. An act of war.
2. A violation of The Geneva Convention.

Um, no they did not kidnap them, and yes when armed invaders come into your space , you do normally question unarm them , and question them. No violation, we are not in war with Iran.

1. They took the sailors into custody by force.

2. Held them against their will.

3. Abused the sailors while they We're captured.

4. Iran issued conditions for their release.

Here in the real world, that's called kidnapping.
 
It was NOT one ship with a SUPPOSED break it was BOTH! Get me Vegas I need odds. So guess WHO called Iran to go pick them up? None other the traitor John Kerry. YUP, he told Iran where to find them and PLEASE go pick then up.

That is NOT military procedure folks NOT even close! Hear it for yourself....


THAT amounts to our service personal being SOLD OUT by John Kerry AND Obama. Obama AND Kerry SOLD OUT our servicemen and woman on an international stage to the ENTIRE islamic world.

And the Irainians PARADED them on TV for the ENTIRE islamic world to see. By the way THAT does break international law as seen here...
US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s waters


But it backfired on YOU democrats because America is NOW PISSED OFF. And they WANT HEADS on platters. Democrat heads, and they WANT THEM NOW!
Outrage Over Iran Releasing Images of Captured U.S. Sailors on Their Knees


it's so funny how you call a war hero a traitor.

that rant was cute, though.



John Kerry admitted to war crime and inventory a delusional, fictional trip to Cambodia on Christmas. Your heroes suck


What else would you expect from people who made Mike "Dirt Nap" Brown a hero?


you're funny.

deluded, but funny


Oh I'm sorry,did I mention the wrong hero?
It must be Traygone .......


You know. You probably shouldn't get annoyed when people call you racist scum when you celebrate the murders of unarmed black men

Just because you worship at the alter of the rightwingnut blogosphere, don't blame me because you know nothing.
 
You soooo wanted this to be Gulf of Tonkin redux, didn't you?

You're not outraged that Iran committed an act of war and violated The Geneva Convention?
What act of war did they commit?

They kidnapped American servicemen, at gun point and held them hosrtage.

1. An act of war.
2. A violation of The Geneva Convention.

Um, no they did not kidnap them, and yes when armed invaders come into your space , you do normally question unarm them , and question them. No violation, we are not in war with Iran.

1. They took the sailors into custody by force.

2. Held them against their will.

3. Abused the sailors while they We're captured.

4. Iran issued conditions for their release.

Here in the real world, that's called kidnapping.

They were arrested, unharmed, questioned and then allowed to spend the night and released.

What were the conditions?? How can you capture someone when they are adrift in your waters.

That would be the same as a heavily armed crook accidently walking in your house. When you disarmed him , without harming him, would you feed him a meal and let him spend the night?
 
You soooo wanted this to be Gulf of Tonkin redux, didn't you?

You're not outraged that Iran committed an act of war and violated The Geneva Convention?
What act of war did they commit?

They kidnapped American servicemen, at gun point and held them hosrtage.

1. An act of war.
2. A violation of The Geneva Convention.

Um, no they did not kidnap them, and yes when armed invaders come into your space , you do normally question unarm them , and question them. No violation, we are not in war with Iran.

1. They took the sailors into custody by force.

2. Held them against their will.

3. Abused the sailors while they We're captured.

4. Iran issued conditions for their release.

Here in the real world, that's called kidnapping.

The ship was in Iran's waters.

They were lucky they were released so quickly. Had we been listening to you NCWJ's they'd probably still be there.

No one says the sailors were abused at least no one normal

What conditions would that be?

You people have never been right about anything in the Middle East. No reason to expect you to learn anything now. But do please stop spouting nonsense.
 

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