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Yeah, so?
Since it was the Arabs who started the war it looks as if the UN was blowing smoke up someones ass. That so called peace didn't last a year.
Not so. The Palestinians Muslims, Christians, and Jews got along fine.The problems started when the Zionists came along. They started the war.
I would be very surprised if YOU did, so why don't you tell us first.and you folks do know what was promised to Israel in a congressional bipartisan consensus April 2004...right?
Of course Obama never said PRE-1967 borders, but that will never stop CON$ from lying in packs!!!
Since it was the Arabs who started the war it looks as if the UN was blowing smoke up someones ass. That so called peace didn't last a year.
Not so. The Palestinians Muslims, Christians, and Jews got along fine.The problems started when the Zionists came along. They started the war.
In keeping with the UN Partition Plan, David Ben-Gurion, Israels first Prime Minister, proclaimed the independence of the new State of Israel on May 14, 1948. The following day, Arab armies from Egypt, Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq attacked the new Jewish state. This was the first Arab-Israeli war, called by the victorious Israelis the War of Independence.
http://www.icsresources.org/content/factsheets/ArabIsraeliTimeline.pdf
Why am I not surprised you could not give a straight yes or no answer, but chose instead to play dumb?!!!My rebuttal is, FAUX did what you parroted in the other thread and changed 1967 borders to PRE-1967 borders.
Get IT.
Now tell me, Did FAUX lie about PRE-1967 borders?
Yes or no first before any rationalization or dodge.
So Obamush wants Isreal to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Obama said
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
Three guesses, and the first two don't count.Why am I not surprised you could not give a straight yes or no answer, but chose instead to play dumb?!!!So Obamush wants Isreal to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Obama said
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
Who's playing dumb?
Not so. The Palestinians Muslims, Christians, and Jews got along fine.The problems started when the Zionists came along. They started the war.
In keeping with the UN Partition Plan, David Ben-Gurion, Israels first Prime Minister, proclaimed the independence of the new State of Israel on May 14, 1948. The following day, Arab armies from Egypt, Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq attacked the new Jewish state. This was the first Arab-Israeli war, called by the victorious Israelis the War of Independence.
http://www.icsresources.org/content/factsheets/ArabIsraeliTimeline.pdf
The UN partition plan was never implemented by the Security Council. It did not partition Palestine and it created no state.
Israel was not the victor. The 1948 war was called by a UN Security Council resolution. Nobody won that war. Nobody lost that war.
Don't try and make this so simple. Useful idiots need nuance, obfuscation, and confusion to ply their trade. Otherwise the plebes get wise to the scam.Why am I not surprised you could not give a straight yes or no answer, but chose instead to play dumb?!!!So Obamush wants Isreal to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Obama said
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
Who's playing dumb?
Obama said
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Three guesses, and the first two don't count.Why am I not surprised you could not give a straight yes or no answer, but chose instead to play dumb?!!!
Who's playing dumb?
Obama said
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Again no yes or no answer BEFORE the rationalizations.
Thank you.
To refresh your very poor memory. I was addressing the lies in the cited FAUX article in the OP.Three guesses, and the first two don't count.Who's playing dumb?
Obama said
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Again no yes or no answer BEFORE the rationalizations.
Thank you.
Now you were saying?
Oh come on!!!! Everybody with a brain knows FAUX are pathological liars, but there are still people stupid enough to believe them!!!Obama: Palestinian State Must Be Based on 1967 Borders - FoxNews.com
What a piece of work, if I where Isreal I would throw up the big F.U. sign and carry on with my business. We will make relations better with Isreal after 2012 is over with. This president is embarrassing.
Not only did the pathological liars truncate the quote leaving out the "mutually agreed swaps" they also added the "PRE-" to the 1967.Obama, in a sweeping address tackling the uprisings in the Middle East and the stalled peace process, stunned Washington and Jerusalem by endorsing Palestinians' demand for their own state based on the pre-1967 borders.
But that wasn't enough lying for the premeditated liars at FAUX, they then changed the 2004 commitment from "armistice lines of 1949" to "1967 lines."Full transcript of Obama's Middle East speech - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognised borders are established for both states.
The actual 2004 commitment:That is why Prime Minister Netanyahu expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004. ... Among other things, those commitments relate to Israel not having to withdraw to the 1967 lines."
Bush Press Conference with PM Sharon (4/14/2004)
As part of a final peace settlement, Israel must have secure and recognized borders which should emerge from negotiations between the parties, in accordance with U.N. Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338. In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.
To refresh your very poor memory. I was addressing the lies in the cited FAUX article in the OP.Three guesses, and the first two don't count.
Again no yes or no answer BEFORE the rationalizations.
Thank you.
Now you were saying?
Oh come on!!!! Everybody with a brain knows FAUX are pathological liars, but there are still people stupid enough to believe them!!!
They open your link with an obvious lie in the second paragraph. But it is not obvious to CON$!
Not only did the pathological liars truncate the quote leaving out the "mutually agreed swaps" they also added the "PRE-" to the 1967.
Here's what Obama actually said:
But that wasn't enough lying for the premeditated liars at FAUX, they then changed the 2004 commitment from "armistice lines of 1949" to "1967 lines."
The quote from your FAUX link:
The actual 2004 commitment:That is why Prime Minister Netanyahu expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004. ... Among other things, those commitments relate to Israel not having to withdraw to the 1967 lines."
Bush Press Conference with PM Sharon (4/14/2004)
As part of a final peace settlement, Israel must have secure and recognized borders which should emerge from negotiations between the parties, in accordance with U.N. Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338. In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.
If you do not stop deleting portions of my reply I will report it.To refresh your very poor memory. I was addressing the lies in the cited FAUX article in the OP.obama said:Three guesses, and the first two don't count.
Again no yes or no answer BEFORE the rationalizations.
Thank you.
Now you were saying?"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
Oh come on!!!! Everybody with a brain knows FAUX are pathological liars, but there are still people stupid enough to believe them!!!
They open your link with an obvious lie in the second paragraph. But it is not obvious to CON$!
Not only did the pathological liars truncate the quote leaving out the "mutually agreed swaps" they also added the "PRE-" to the 1967.
Here's what Obama actually said:
But that wasn't enough lying for the premeditated liars at FAUX, they then changed the 2004 commitment from "armistice lines of 1949" to "1967 lines."
The quote from your FAUX link:
The actual 2004 commitment:That is why Prime Minister Netanyahu expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004. ... Among other things, those commitments relate to Israel not having to withdraw to the 1967 lines."
Bush Press Conference with PM Sharon (4/14/2004)
As part of a final peace settlement, Israel must have secure and recognized borders which should emerge from negotiations between the parties, in accordance with U.N. Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338. In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
Obama: Palestinian State Must Be Based on 1967 Borders - FoxNews.com
What a piece of work, if I where Isreal I would throw up the big F.U. sign and carry on with my business. We will make relations better with Isreal after 2012 is over with. This president is embarrassing.
Obama: Palestinian State Must Be Based on 1967 Borders - FoxNews.com
What a piece of work, if I where Isreal I would throw up the big F.U. sign and carry on with my business. We will make relations better with Isreal after 2012 is over with. This president is embarrassing.
Only an imbecile would hear that sppech and conclude Obama is turning on Israel. But then again what would you expect out of Fox Noise.
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
None of those links has OBAMA saying PRE-1967 borders. The only one that quotes Obama has his quote as "1967 borders." All of the PRE-1967 borders come from the pens of the opinion writers and not the mouth of Obama.To refresh your very poor memory. I was addressing the lies in the cited FAUX article in the OP.Now you were saying?
Oh come on!!!! Everybody with a brain knows FAUX are pathological liars, but there are still people stupid enough to believe them!!!
They open your link with an obvious lie in the second paragraph. But it is not obvious to CON$!
Not only did the pathological liars truncate the quote leaving out the "mutually agreed swaps" they also added the "PRE-" to the 1967.
Here's what Obama actually said:
But that wasn't enough lying for the premeditated liars at FAUX, they then changed the 2004 commitment from "armistice lines of 1949" to "1967 lines."
The quote from your FAUX link:
The actual 2004 commitment:
Bush Press Conference with PM Sharon (4/14/2004)
As part of a final peace settlement, Israel must have secure and recognized borders which should emerge from negotiations between the parties, in accordance with U.N. Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338. In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.
the useful idiot likes to focus his idiocy on one or two strawmen to distract and obfuscate from the real issue. Fox News is one of their favorites
Obama wants Cameron to back Palestinian state with pre-1967 borders | World news | The Observer
Background: Israel's Pre-1967 Boundaries : NPR
Palestinians more skeptical about Mideast talks - Taiwan News Online
Well then you admit that FAUX are imbeciles, but I say you are too kind to FAUX, they are premeditated liars.Obama: Palestinian State Must Be Based on 1967 Borders - FoxNews.com
What a piece of work, if I where Isreal I would throw up the big F.U. sign and carry on with my business. We will make relations better with Isreal after 2012 is over with. This president is embarrassing.
Only an imbecile would hear that sppech and conclude Obama is turning on Israel. But then again what would you expect out of Fox Noise.
Obamush said:
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
Only an imbecile would not see it that way.
Obama, in a sweeping address tackling the uprisings in the Middle East and the stalled peace process, stunned Washington and Jerusalem by endorsing Palestinians' demand for their own state based on the pre-1967 borders.
Well then you admit that FAUX are imbeciles, but I say you are too kind to FAUX, they are premeditated liars.Only an imbecile would hear that sppech and conclude Obama is turning on Israel. But then again what would you expect out of Fox Noise.
Obamush said:
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Only an imbecile would not see it that way.
Here's what FAUX said:
Obama, in a sweeping address tackling the uprisings in the Middle East and the stalled peace process, stunned Washington and Jerusalem by endorsing Palestinians' demand for their own state based on the pre-1967 borders.
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
In keeping with the UN Partition Plan, David Ben-Gurion, Israels first Prime Minister, proclaimed the independence of the new State of Israel on May 14, 1948. The following day, Arab armies from Egypt, Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq attacked the new Jewish state. This was the first Arab-Israeli war, called by the victorious Israelis the War of Independence.
http://www.icsresources.org/content/factsheets/ArabIsraeliTimeline.pdf
The UN partition plan was never implemented by the Security Council. It did not partition Palestine and it created no state.
Israel was not the victor. The 1948 war was called by a UN Security Council resolution. Nobody won that war. Nobody lost that war.
Why wasn't it implemented? What makes you think it wasn't implemented?
Well then you admit that FAUX are imbeciles, but I say you are too kind to FAUX, they are premeditated liars.Obamush said:
So Obamush wants Israel to move it's borders back to the 1967 border line?
Only an imbecile would not see it that way.
Here's what FAUX said:
Are you comprehending what you are saying? Did obama say this or not?
"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"
