Obama wants to talk to Americans to get them up to speed on ISIS.

[Remodeling Maidiac]

For the second time:

While some Republicans -- including another potential 2016 presidential hopeful, Sen. Marco Rubio -- have said that Obama has the authority to act on his own, Cruz said that Congress must be part of the equation. "It should absolutely take congressional approval," he said.

Cruz to Obama Take out ISIL with congressional OK - POLITICO.com

For the second time.

THIS FUCKING THREAD ISNT ABOUT CONGRESSES INTERNAL SQUABBLES

 

[The Rabbi]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I bet he wants to avoids Syria. There'd be a lot of 'splainin to do then wouldn't there now?.


Chuck Todd: Obama Uses ISIL, not ISIS, to Avoid 'Syria'
Monday, 08 Sep 2014 01:48 PM

By Drew MacKenzie

Chuck Todd Obama Uses ISIL not ISIS to Avoid Syria

Why would their be "splainin" to do?

"ISIL" is the actual translation of the Arabic acronym for the group.

They've morphed thru a series of name changes. ISIS is what they decided (not you or I or anyone else) to call themselves when they broke away from AQ.

Now they call themselves simply IS, These are just facts. Not opinion.

And their name is of their own choosing. Not ours.

The name they chose for themselves is داعش.

The second "S" in ISIS doesn't stand for "Syria", anyway - it stands for "al-Sham".

Irrelevant. To everyday Americans the second S stands for Syria and that is why Obama avoids using it.

Pretending to be able to read the President's mind is always a really stupid way to argue. Why would that cause Obama to avoid using it?

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama to detail new plans to hunt down ISIS in speech - CBS News

"Over the course of months, we are going to be able to not just blunt the momentum of (ISIS)," the president said in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press. "We are going to systematically degrade their capabilities. We're going to shrink the territory that they control. And ultimately we're going to defeat them."

"We will hunt down [ISIS] members and assets wherever they are," Mr. Obama added. "I will reserve the right to always protect the American people and go after folks who are trying to hurt us wherever they are."

But that plan will not include putting U.S. troops on the ground in Syria, the president promised, saying that would be a "profound mistake."

Obama will have the stage on Wednesday, whatever actions need to be taken should be allocated by Congress from receipts and not blank checks the Republicans used for their phony Iraq war they have yet to end after 12 years with still no end in sight.

The Iraq War ended in 2007. WHere have you been?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

Are you trying to argue a semantic difference between "cannot act" and "unacceptable"?

 

[tinydancer]

The posters who do not know Shi'ia from Sunni cannot understand anything but simple:

Levant -- Ancient History Encyclopedia

Levant is a region that has existed for 1300+ plus YEARS.

I understand that. I'm only going strictly by what they want to call themselves. And they've done more name changes than Prince or J -lo.

Now it's IS. I can barely keep up with it.

And heck there are probably people out there who are wondering why we're all concerned about an Egyptian goddess.

 

[The Rabbi]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

Are you trying to argue a semantic difference between "cannot act" and "unacceptable"?

If you think the difference is merely semantic then there is no point arguing with you.

The claim was made that Cruz said Obama could not act without Congress.
The citation to support that actually said that Cruz said that Obama ought to act with Congress. Cruz never said Obama could not act unilaterally. Cruz didnt say that because its not true.
It's a difference between law and good policy. You understand that,right?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I bet he wants to avoids Syria. There'd be a lot of 'splainin to do then wouldn't there now?.


Chuck Todd: Obama Uses ISIL, not ISIS, to Avoid 'Syria'
Monday, 08 Sep 2014 01:48 PM

By Drew MacKenzie

Chuck Todd Obama Uses ISIL not ISIS to Avoid Syria

Why would their be "splainin" to do?

"ISIL" is the actual translation of the Arabic acronym for the group.

They've morphed thru a series of name changes. ISIS is what they decided (not you or I or anyone else) to call themselves when they broke away from AQ.

Now they call themselves simply IS, These are just facts. Not opinion.

And their name is of their own choosing. Not ours.

The name they chose for themselves is داعش.

The second "S" in ISIS doesn't stand for "Syria", anyway - it stands for "al-Sham".

Irrelevant. To everyday Americans the second S stands for Syria and that is why Obama avoids using it.

Pretending to be able to read the President's mind is always a really stupid way to argue. Why would that cause Obama to avoid using it?

That is my opinion & the opinion of many others. Has nothing to do with being a mind reader. That's what we do on this site, share opinions.
Hop off your horse before you fall off.

 

[Mojo2]

Obama can talk to us about the Islamic Slime all he wants.

Just as soon as somebody talks to Obama, and schools him, first.

After that, he can start working on a strategy.

Although the Chicago Public Schools may need to send an ROTC non-com to the White House to act as a mentor for that pesky military stuff.

Shouldn't you be in Syria digging up the Wmds?

How are we ever going to miss you if you never leave?

You bid USMB a fond farewell yesterday.

Now you're back.

Who are you to wag a finger at anyone!?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

Are you trying to argue a semantic difference between "cannot act" and "unacceptable"?

If you think the difference is merely semantic then there is no point arguing with you.

The claim was made that Cruz said Obama could not act without Congress.
The citation to support that actually said that Cruz said that Obama ought to act with Congress. Cruz never said Obama could not act unilaterally. Cruz didnt say that because its not true.
It's a difference between law and good policy. You understand that,right?

Schooled

 

[Plasmaball]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

That his anti interventionist policy has failed MASSIVELY

Obama's foreign policy has not been "anti-interventionist" in any sense of the word.

Can you point to areas where he intervened?
No, of course not.

you are kidding right? Oh no you are not because you are a moron

So your answer to my question addressed to someone else is No. Got it.

Libya....Our conversation is over....

I forget....

Was that before or after our embassy was burned and ambassador murdered?

irrelevant

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

Are you trying to argue a semantic difference between "cannot act" and "unacceptable"?

If you think the difference is merely semantic then there is no point arguing with you.

The claim was made that Cruz said Obama could not act without Congress.
The citation to support that actually said that Cruz said that Obama ought to act with Congress. Cruz never said Obama could not act unilaterally. Cruz didnt say that because its not true.
It's a difference between law and good policy. You understand that,right?

Those are quite the rhetorical acrobatics, right there.

 

[The Rabbi]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

Are you trying to argue a semantic difference between "cannot act" and "unacceptable"?

If you think the difference is merely semantic then there is no point arguing with you.

The claim was made that Cruz said Obama could not act without Congress.
The citation to support that actually said that Cruz said that Obama ought to act with Congress. Cruz never said Obama could not act unilaterally. Cruz didnt say that because its not true.
It's a difference between law and good policy. You understand that,right?

Those are quite the rhetorical acrobatics, right there.

OK you're too stupid to understand subtleties of language. We get that.
You're dismissed.
Dunce.

 

[tinydancer]

The posters who do not know Shi'ia from Sunni cannot understand anything but simple:

Levant -- Ancient History Encyclopedia

Levant is a region that has existed for 1300+ plus YEARS.

I understand that. I'm only going strictly by what they want to call themselves. And they've done more name changes than Prince or J -lo.

Now it's IS. I can barely keep up with it.

And heck there are probably people out there who are wondering why we're all concerned about an Egyptian goddess.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I bet he wants to avoids Syria. There'd be a lot of 'splainin to do then wouldn't there now?.


Chuck Todd: Obama Uses ISIL, not ISIS, to Avoid 'Syria'
Monday, 08 Sep 2014 01:48 PM

By Drew MacKenzie

Chuck Todd Obama Uses ISIL not ISIS to Avoid Syria

Why would their be "splainin" to do?

"ISIL" is the actual translation of the Arabic acronym for the group.

They've morphed thru a series of name changes. ISIS is what they decided (not you or I or anyone else) to call themselves when they broke away from AQ.

Now they call themselves simply IS, These are just facts. Not opinion.

And their name is of their own choosing. Not ours.

The name they chose for themselves is داعش.

The second "S" in ISIS doesn't stand for "Syria", anyway - it stands for "al-Sham".

Irrelevant. To everyday Americans the second S stands for Syria and that is why Obama avoids using it.

Pretending to be able to read the President's mind is always a really stupid way to argue. Why would that cause Obama to avoid using it?

That is my opinion & the opinion of many others. Has nothing to do with being a mind reader. That's what we do on this site, share opinions.
Hop off your horse before you fall off.

I'm asking you to explain back up your "opinions". That's what we do on this site, respond and challenge other poster's "opinions".

 

[Peach]

Congress has the authority to declare [war]” said Cruz. “Part of the reason that Congress has that check and balance on the president is that it forces him to explain: What is the military objective we’re trying to accomplish? I believe initiating new military hositilies in a sustained basis in Iraq obligates the president to go back to Congress and to make the case to seek congressional authorization.”

Ted Cruz Obama needs new authorization from Congress for these operations against ISIS Hot Air

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said Saturday that President Barack Obama must seek Congressional authorization for U.S. strikes on the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) if they continue.

Republican Presidential Hopefuls Criticize Obama Handling Of Iraq

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I think it's the other way around. Most of us knew the threat ISIS presented MONTHS AGO. But Obama is gonna "inform us" lol

That was the part I found most amusing about his Meet the Press interview.

I alao find it amusing that he refuses to use the last S in ISIS. Just can't admit he is behind the curve.

Why should he use "the last S" in ISIS?

"ISIS" isn't actually their name.

Because that is where they are based. He is simply too stubborn to admit it. He avoids using the word Syria at all costs. I find it amusing.

That doesn't make any sense. What do you think he should "admit"?

Of course the President needs Congressional approval for most action, thus the excuses for the inaction paint a picture of the stalemate in Congress somehow being Presidential delay......there is delay, on the part of Boehner & McConnell; Nelson is no grandstander, he has been working for weeks..............no response from McConnell.....

The president does not need approval for most action.
And where he did need approval, like the Bergdahl fiasco, he didnt get it, violating the law.

The Republican leadership seems to disagree with you.

Cruz has been campaigning....or....yelling the President can do nothing more without Congressional approval, yes.

Link?

Ted Cruz says it 8217 s 8216 unacceptable 8217 for Obama to proceed against Islamic State without Congress TheBlaze.com

You understand that doesnt support the claim that Cruz believes Obama cannot act without COngress, right?

Are you trying to argue a semantic difference between "cannot act" and "unacceptable"?

If you think the difference is merely semantic then there is no point arguing with you.

The claim was made that Cruz said Obama could not act without Congress.
The citation to support that actually said that Cruz said that Obama ought to act with Congress. Cruz never said Obama could not act unilaterally. Cruz didnt say that because its not true.
It's a difference between law and good policy. You understand that,right?

Those are quite the rhetorical acrobatics, right there.

OK you're too stupid to understand subtleties of language. We get that.
You're dismissed.
Dunce.

The "subtleties of language".



According to my dictionary, "unacceptable" means, among other things, "not allowed".

So let's fill in the blanks:

“One thing he did indicate, however, is that he would not be requesting congressional authorization for ongoing military operations in Iraq or Syria,” Cruz said. “This is not allowed.”

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I bet he wants to avoids Syria. There'd be a lot of 'splainin to do then wouldn't there now?.


Chuck Todd: Obama Uses ISIL, not ISIS, to Avoid 'Syria'
Monday, 08 Sep 2014 01:48 PM

By Drew MacKenzie

Chuck Todd Obama Uses ISIL not ISIS to Avoid Syria

Why would their be "splainin" to do?

"ISIL" is the actual translation of the Arabic acronym for the group.

They've morphed thru a series of name changes. ISIS is what they decided (not you or I or anyone else) to call themselves when they broke away from AQ.

Now they call themselves simply IS, These are just facts. Not opinion.

And their name is of their own choosing. Not ours.

The name they chose for themselves is داعش.

The second "S" in ISIS doesn't stand for "Syria", anyway - it stands for "al-Sham".

Irrelevant. To everyday Americans the second S stands for Syria and that is why Obama avoids using it.

Pretending to be able to read the President's mind is always a really stupid way to argue. Why would that cause Obama to avoid using it?

That is my opinion & the opinion of many others. Has nothing to do with being a mind reader. That's what we do on this site, share opinions.
Hop off your horse before you fall off.

I'm asking you to explain back up your "opinions". That's what we do on this site, respond and challenge other poster's "opinions".

I fucking explained why I think he avoids it. Are you daft? Christ

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm asking you to explain back up your "opinions". That's what we do on this site, respond and challenge other poster's "opinions".

LOL!
WHat a fucking maroon!
You just got your ass handed to you on this very thread, unable to figure out what Ted Cruz actually said and dismissing the fact as "semantics" and you want to school Gramps on what we do on this site>?
Get outta town!

 

[BreezeWood]

Obama to detail new plans to hunt down ISIS in speech - CBS News

"Over the course of months, we are going to be able to not just blunt the momentum of (ISIS)," the president said in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press. "We are going to systematically degrade their capabilities. We're going to shrink the territory that they control. And ultimately we're going to defeat them."

"We will hunt down [ISIS] members and assets wherever they are," Mr. Obama added. "I will reserve the right to always protect the American people and go after folks who are trying to hurt us wherever they are."

But that plan will not include putting U.S. troops on the ground in Syria, the president promised, saying that would be a "profound mistake."

Obama will have the stage on Wednesday, whatever actions need to be taken should be allocated by Congress from receipts and not blank checks the Republicans used for their phony Iraq war they have yet to end after 12 years with still no end in sight.

The Iraq War ended in 2007. WHere have you been?

US President George W. Bush, on May 1, 2003; Mission Accomplished

no that was the Republican Depression just starting in 2007, giving the Islamist enough time to nearly takeover the entirety of both Iraq and Syria at the same time to the present date.

.