POLL: Are USMB Trump supporters okay with this plan?

[Mac1958]

You don't have to be a specific supporter of anyone, a responsible adult, especially parents of children, should be appalled at what's going on in the education system.

I don't disagree. I'm against much of it too.

The problem with the way both ends (ends, not sides) of the spectrum address problems is not the goal. The goal can be perfectly fine, good, legitimate. The problem is THE ACTION TAKEN to ADDRESS it.

When do we learn that simplistic, ham-handed, authoritarian, all-or-nothing approaches only invite the same tactics in response? Do we EVER learn that?

 

[Captain Caveman]

I don't disagree. I'm against much of it too.

The problem with the way both ends (ends, not sides) of the spectrum address problems is not the goal. The goal can be perfectly fine, good, legitimate. The problem is THE ACTION TAKEN to ADDRESS it.

When do we learn that simplistic, ham-handed, authoritarian, all-or-nothing approaches only invite the same tactics in response? Do we EVER learn that?

I'm more concerned with how did this happen and who allowed it to happen in the first place. Then I'm next concerned with, why hasn't the person in charge sorted it.

What's the current administration's statement to sort out the education system, do they have one? Then we can compare and contrast to the op.

 

[Mac1958]

What's the current administration's statement to sort out the education system, do they have one? Then we can compare and contrast to the op.

I imagine it's the standard Democrat line, whatever that might be. But that has zero relevance. It has absolutely nothing to do with the actions of the other party.

 

[struth]

NO, they aren't you......DUMBASS.

They do, you fucking retard, Q-NUT.

Supreme Court ethics bill advances out of House ...​

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Outside groups take a first stab at a Supreme Court ethics ...​

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Mar 9, 2023 — While she thinks that Congress could write an ethics code for the court, it would be far better for the justices to do it themselves.

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STUPID fuck.

hahahaba wow just wow

 

[Leviticus]

Sounds like trump is trying to bring back the red scare. You know the giant witch hunt where the government suspended the bill of rights and arrested people For having certain political and social ideals.

 

[scruffy]

Sounds like trump is trying to bring back the red scare. You know the giant witch hunt where the government suspended the bill of rights and arrested people For having certain political and social ideals.

Better dead than red.

 

[Leviticus]

Better dead than red.

Yeah the issue with that is republicans tend to use Socialism as code for anything they disagree with regardless of Whether it's socialist or not.

H*** a lot of Republican voters support socialist programs like medicare and social security. And they're too stupid to even realize that they're socialist programs.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I imagine it's the standard Democrat line, whatever that might be. But that has zero relevance. It has absolutely nothing to do with the actions of the other party.

The actions and also the inactions of the current sitting party are more important. It means you accept the current situation, how it arose, and the lack of effort to reverse the problem. It's very relevant what the sitting party's statement/strategy is to sort this problem out in the education system, rather than getting knickers in a twist over a statement made by the opposition.

I think that ^^ should have been option 4, imo. Priorities are back to front, Trumps statement wouldn't have arisen if the current administration was doing it's job.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Yeah the issue with that is republicans tend to use Socialism as code for anything they disagree with regardless of Whether it's socialist or not.

H*** a lot of Republican voters support socialist programs like medicare and social security. And they're too stupid to even realize that they're socialist programs.

They have no issue with corporate "socialism" though.

Illuminating the Hidden Costs of State Tax Incentives​

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Jul 22, 2021 — Altogether, state and local governments give out an estimated $95 billion a year in business incentives. By way of comparison, state and ...

 

[Mac1958]

The actions and also the inactions of the current sitting party are more important. It means you accept the current situation, how it arose, and the lack of effort to reverse the problem. It's very relevant what the sitting party's statement/strategy is to sort this problem out in the education system, rather than getting knickers in a twist over a statement made by the opposition.

I think that ^^ should have been option 4, imo. Priorities are back to front, Trumps statement wouldn't have arisen if the current administration was doing it's job.

It's not inaction. It's choosing the right action, one that doesn't result in an equal and opposite over-reaction.

I don't know how else to explain it. But then again, I don't get politics. Back and forth, back and forth, fight fight fight. And the decay continues.

 

[GMCGeneral]

They choose their students.

Not always. Charters are another option parents are going with to get their kids out of failing district schools.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's not inaction. It's choosing the right action, one that doesn't result in an equal and opposite over-reaction.

I don't know how else to explain it. But then again, I don't get politics. Back and forth, back and forth, fight fight fight. And the decay continues.

I'm British, so I'm more party and policy politics.

So the op covers Trumps policy/statement and I'm asked to unravel and vote on it. But I need the current administrations policy too, so I can compare and contrast to give a balanced assessment.
Trump is abrasive, straight to the point, industrious, pragmatic , narcissistic, gets results and unfortunately, that really upsets the Left.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Mac1958

My assessment is -

A zealot, "A person who has very strong opinions about something, and tries to make other people have them too". Radical, "Departing markedly from the usual or customary; extreme or drastic".

So Trump has described the type of zealot that's not welcome in the education system, the ones brainwashing kids into believing you can change sex, pushing drag queens and transgenders Infront of their faces.

Trump says, "And the others", probably those that help and facilitate the freaks.

Then Trump goes on to say to protect the children. Well, child protection is very important, especially in this day and age, who wouldn't their children protected?

Then he finally highlights the current administration is doing nothing, inaction, and Trump states he will have them dismissed.

I didn't see in his statement anything about the FBI marching staff out. Any responsible adult and parent would agree with Trump's statement. Anyone can be fired from any job.

 

[Mac1958]

Anyone can be fired from any job.

Yes, that's what left wingers tell me when defending cancel culture.

The two ends of the spectrum can be terribly similar in their behaviors.

If we don't get back to adult communication and constructive collaboration, we're sunk.

 

[22lcidw]

Sounds like trump is trying to bring back the red scare. You know the giant witch hunt where the government suspended the bill of rights and arrested people For having certain political and social ideals.

Ironically that is who has massive power today.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Yes, that's what left wingers tell me when defending cancel culture.

The two ends of the spectrum can be terribly similar in their behaviors.

If we don't get back to adult communication and constructive collaboration, we're sunk.

Ahh yes, good old compromise= selling yourself out to the enemy, and that's exactly what the Left is, the enemy of America and needs to be destroyed.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yes, that's what left wingers tell me when defending cancel culture.

The two ends of the spectrum can be terribly similar in their behaviors.

If we don't get back to adult communication and constructive collaboration, we're sunk.

So why has this transgender and drag queen problem been allowed to infiltrate America's education system? Is it down to State level or does the government have overall control?

In addition to constructive collaboration, you need accountability. So who's responsible for the problem. They need dismissed.

 

[JoeB131]

Only to unbelieving sinners like you. It is proof that He is risen indeed.

Actually, quite the contrary. If anything, the Bible raises serious questions about the historicity of Jesus.

For instance, the Gospels of Luke and Matthew can't agree on WHEN he was born. Matthew puts his birth before the death of Herod the Great (4 BCE). while Luke puts his birth during the governorship of Quirinius (6 CE). That's nearly a TEN YEAR GAP. This tells me that the people writing these Gospels didn't know Jesus personally and were just making details up.

You do know Islam is far more strict than Christianity right? Do you think Muslims will tolerate all your leftist bs?

Here's the thing. Muslims aren't the Borg. Sure, there are Fundy Muslims just like there are Fundy Christians, and they are all just as crazy.

Our problem with the Islamic World, however, isn't their religion. If we started leaving them along, they'll leave us alone.

 

[JoeB131]

So my 86 year-old mother not having a high school diploma is held against me having a Master's degree. Is that what your chart says?

Well, clearly you never understood how to read charts. What's your Masters in, "Theology"?

So you don't believe in due process? Typical liberal.

Uh, there's due process and then there is keeping someone on the payroll because the union has made them impossible to fire. The problem with public sector unions is that they can have an influence in who gets to be on the other side of the table, something that simply would never work in the private sector.

Chicago's recent election was the Fraternal Order of Police vs. the Chicago Teacher's Union, and unfortunately, the CTU won. (Not that things would have been better if the Fascist Odor of Police won).

 

[Mac1958]

So why has this transgender and drag queen problem been allowed to infiltrate America's education system? Is it down to State level or does the government have overall control?

In addition to constructive collaboration, you need accountability. So who's responsible for the problem. They need dismissed.

The two whacked out ends of the spectrum, the tribes, are the problem. They always have an excuse.