President Orders 5,000 Troops to US Border

[OKTexas]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Worthless!!!! Support troops only. No combat units.

drawing on any troops is stupid. They have duties and missions. Guarding a border is not one of them. we live in America, not shitty Israel or some other bullshit nation

They’ve spent the last 50 years guarding the border in South Korea. It’s absolutely absurd to argue that the military, whose job is to protect us, shouldn’t be guarding the nations border.

Are you seriously that obtuse concerning military history?

The States are authorized by the Constitution to act independently to repel an invasion. If they have to use beanbag rounds, rubber bullets, tasers or cs gas and other non-lethal methods so be it. Establish a line and hold it.

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[OKTexas]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Worthless!!!! Support troops only. No combat units.

Why do you need combat units? Are you planning on assaulting a beachhead or using helicopters to fly the troops into Mexico?

Support units know how to fight also.

National Guard units are trained in crowd and riot control and can be deputized to act as law enforcement. They just can't be acting in a Title 10 capacity.

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[OKTexas]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Why is Trump wasting this kind of money?

There are right now 100's of Federali's & Mexican military on the southern border of Mexico already making certain that the "caravan" doesn't get into Mexico. Yes, Mexico does have a border that it protects and they don't want them in their country either. So "if" they get across into Mexico it will be another 1,982 miles before they reach our southern border, and throughout all of that, they .will be stopped FREQUENTLY by Mexican military and asked for papers, and if they don't have papers they will be sent back promptly.

Really, I don't think a Trump Tard has ever been gone further than their backyard, but anyone who has traveled to Mexico KNOWS THIS.

Mexico sent federal forces to its southern border Wednesday after President Trump called on several Latin American nations to stop a large caravan of Honduran immigrants heading toward the United States.Mexico’s federal police released images of two planes arriving in Tapachula, a Mexican city on the border with Guatemala that is a popular crossing point for migrants heading north. News reports showed hundreds of agents disembarking from the planes, some carrying riot gear.

Mexico sends federal forces to its southern border as migrant caravan heads north

And of course Honduras is going to pay for it--

You have no clue what the hell you're talking about. The first caravan walked right through the Mexican troops and police. They seem to be holding a harder line on the second one. Do try to keep up.

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[Vandalshandle]

So Trump will? Did he say that he was going to? If he did, he lied.

Maybe, maybe not. Are you going to be pissed if he does the right thing for good, REAL Americans?
Do prefer he puts Mexico first?

I prefer that he fulfil his oath to protect the Constitution

Oh I get it...you think the U.S. Constitution was framed and authored for Mexico...or you wish it was? That’s super American of you.
I get the feeling you really like the ‘loopholes’ which benefit wetbacks while fucking over good, REAL Americans...am I right?
What part of that filthy shithole Mexico are you from?

I understand that as a Trump supporter, you consider the constitution to be no more valuable than used toilet paper. Fortunately, neither you, nor Trump can repeal it.

Circle talk is lame and gay...you’re avoiding my implications...and rightfully so. You’ve been schooled...you’re welcome.

I will concede to your superior intellect, just as soon as Mexico pays for the wall.

 

[Norman]

The WH needs to issue EOs that that temporarily gives the troops the power to stop the invasion at the southern border and immediately deport the invaders. Otherwise all we have is the border patrol, and they would be overwhelmed. So I like the troops there, but we need to allow them to "detain" illegals.

No, we don't.

The military exists for a singular purpose - to kill people and break shit. End of story. They are not police and using the military as police NEVER works out well. It seems there are far to few that realize this anymore.

The exact purpose of the military is to stop invasions of the country. Once the enemy army tries to enter it's the military's business.

The votes pro-Trumpers will be gaining for finally standing up and growing balls will probably be insurmountable.

 

[Anathema]

Why do you need combat units? Are you planning on assaulting a beachhead or using helicopters to fly the troops into Mexico?.

Yes. My intent would be to engage in aggressive offensive operations to wipe out the entire caravan the moment the first one of them crosses the birder.

 

[Doc1]

I served
they can protect the US anytime--anywhere --DUMBASS
you DUMBASS--it's NOT law enforcement!!!!!!!!!!! DUH

Guess you never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act eh? And, while there are exceptions, none of them apply here.

The Posse Comitatus Act > U.S. Northern Command > Article View


The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.


The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.


The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

• The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.
• Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.
• Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.


And, in order for the Insurrection Act to apply, it has to be requested by the states legislature or governor.

The other two involving nuclear, biological and chemical weapons doesn't apply here either.

Guess you never heard of Marshall Law eh?

I've never heard of Marshall Law, but I have heard of martial law.

Martial law is the imposition of direct military control of normal civilian functions of government, especially in response to a temporary emergency such as invasion or major disaster, or in an occupied territory. Martial law can be used by governments to enforce their rule over the public.


And, martial law is generally used by dictators.

LOL, grammar? You're a pansy son.

"Martial law is the imposition of direct military control of normal civilian functions of government, especially in response to a temporary emergency such as invasion or major disaster, or in an occupied territory."

Precisely. The "Latinos" will be stopped and sent home. Go with them. Sailors don't get to question the real service of others.

Far be it from me to back up Biker, but he is a fellow sailor. It's not grammar. You chose the wrong word.

You'll live pop.

 

[Doc1]

And, for you people who are cheering that the military is gonna stop and detain those who try to cross the border, you might wanna re-think your position. The military won't be able to do anything concerning the immigrants, they will be there in a support position only.

From the link.......................................

Because the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military from performing law enforcement activities within the United States, these troops will be in support roles only. They will not have arresting power and won't interact with migrants.

Those deployed will include engineers, planners, military police, pilots, cooks and medical personnel. Among the work the troops will undertake is the building of camps to house CBP personnel along the Mexican border.


They are gonna build camps, and cook for the BP, but that is about it.

If some of you people had actually SERVED in the military, you would know what kind of a waste it is.

I served
they can protect the US anytime--anywhere --DUMBASS
you DUMBASS--it's NOT law enforcement!!!!!!!!!!! DUH

Guess you never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act eh? And, while there are exceptions, none of them apply here.

The Posse Comitatus Act > U.S. Northern Command > Article View


The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.


The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.


The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

• The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.
• Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.
• Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.


And, in order for the Insurrection Act to apply, it has to be requested by the states legislature or governor.

The other two involving nuclear, biological and chemical weapons doesn't apply here either.

Guess you never heard of Marshall Law eh?

Wasn't he a character on Gunsmoke? No, that was Marshall Dillon!

You mean martial law?

Stop embarrassing yourself!

I'm fine pop, you'll live.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

A country without borders will cease to exist.
The Democrats need more poor uneducated anti-american voters, because they have alienated mainstream middle class voters.
They don't care if they destroy our country.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The illegals are looting the pockets of the American taxpayers and then the Left Wingers call people racist bigots if they complain about it.
Illegal immigration is theft.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Left's quest to abolish I.C.E. is racist.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The advocates for illegal immigration are raging racist cretins.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Birth right citizenship if both parents are illegals should be abolished and Chain immigration should be abolished.

 

[kyzr]

It still baffles me why Ryan's attempt at immigration reform failed? Even with a GOP majority in the House, the vote wasn't close. Maybe they need to get a Senate Bill through first? Hope there is a GOP majority in the Senate after the mid-terms
GOP compromise immigration bill fails in House

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Worthless!!!! Support troops only. No combat units.

Why do you need combat units? Are you planning on assaulting a beachhead or using helicopters to fly the troops into Mexico?

Support units know how to fight also.

National Guard units are trained in crowd and riot control and can be deputized to act as law enforcement. They just can't be acting in a Title 10 capacity.

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What does that have to do with what I stated? I was not talking about the National Guard.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why do you need combat units? Are you planning on assaulting a beachhead or using helicopters to fly the troops into Mexico?.

Yes. My intent would be to engage in aggressive offensive operations to wipe out the entire caravan the moment the first one of them crosses the birder.

You need to be institutionalized. You are crazier than a loon!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And, for you people who are cheering that the military is gonna stop and detain those who try to cross the border, you might wanna re-think your position. The military won't be able to do anything concerning the immigrants, they will be there in a support position only.

From the link.......................................

Because the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military from performing law enforcement activities within the United States, these troops will be in support roles only. They will not have arresting power and won't interact with migrants.

Those deployed will include engineers, planners, military police, pilots, cooks and medical personnel. Among the work the troops will undertake is the building of camps to house CBP personnel along the Mexican border.


They are gonna build camps, and cook for the BP, but that is about it.

If some of you people had actually SERVED in the military, you would know what kind of a waste it is.

I served
they can protect the US anytime--anywhere --DUMBASS
you DUMBASS--it's NOT law enforcement!!!!!!!!!!! DUH

Guess you never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act eh? And, while there are exceptions, none of them apply here.

The Posse Comitatus Act > U.S. Northern Command > Article View


The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.


The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.


The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

• The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.
• Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.
• Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.


And, in order for the Insurrection Act to apply, it has to be requested by the states legislature or governor.

The other two involving nuclear, biological and chemical weapons doesn't apply here either.

Guess you never heard of Marshall Law eh?

Wasn't he a character on Gunsmoke? No, that was Marshall Dillon!

You mean martial law?

Stop embarrassing yourself!

I'm fine pop, you'll live.

Wow! You even screwed up by replying twice! Great job!

Lay off your drugs while posting. It might help!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It still baffles me why Ryan's attempt at immigration reform failed? Even with a GOP majority in the House, the vote wasn't close. Maybe they need to get a Senate Bill through first? Hope there is a GOP majority in the Senate after the mid-terms
GOP compromise immigration bill fails in House

First off, the word "reform" in politics means to give in, and Republican voters don't want Republican giving in.

Secondly, there is nothing wrong with our immigration system as it is. There is no reform needed. What we voters want is to close the border. That's it. Republicans have themselves to thank for us electing Donald Trump, and they are watching their steps now because each RINO may be next.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Why is Trump wasting this kind of money?

There are right now 100's of Federali's & Mexican military on the southern border of Mexico already making certain that the "caravan" doesn't get into Mexico. Yes, Mexico does have a border that it protects and they don't want them in their country either. So "if" they get across into Mexico it will be another 1,982 miles before they reach our southern border, and throughout all of that, they .will be stopped FREQUENTLY by Mexican military and asked for papers, and if they don't have papers they will be sent back promptly.

Really, I don't think a Trump Tard has ever been gone further than their backyard, but anyone who has traveled to Mexico KNOWS THIS.

Mexico sent federal forces to its southern border Wednesday after President Trump called on several Latin American nations to stop a large caravan of Honduran immigrants heading toward the United States.Mexico’s federal police released images of two planes arriving in Tapachula, a Mexican city on the border with Guatemala that is a popular crossing point for migrants heading north. News reports showed hundreds of agents disembarking from the planes, some carrying riot gear.

Mexico sends federal forces to its southern border as migrant caravan heads north

And of course Honduras is going to pay for it--

If that is so, why are they in Mexico only 1000 miles away from our border?

Of course you have a verifiable credible link to that--or is that just what you're hearing from the usual sources. I have traveled a lot down to Mexico. There are basically 2 main highways that will get you through North to South Mexico. They are heavily guarded by Mexican military, who stop everyone at frequent checkpoints. It's not like coming into the States where there are side roads and highways everywhere to avoid detection.

This caravan doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of making it to our border undetected. Mexicans don't want them in their country either, because they become a burden to them.

So what are you saying, that it's some sort of media conspiracy? There is no caravan in Mexico and it's not coming our way? The media is lying to us about them having penetrated the Mexican southern border?

Can you explain to me how the last batch got here, you know, the one where kids were being separated from their parents?

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans always want to pretend to be "macho" and manly.

Look at Trump. Talks so tough.

But look at what terrifies them:

Macho and manly would be to help women and children.

That's how I was raised.

Is that why you always expect someone else to take care of them?

No, I expect Americans to act, well, Christian.

Republicans have lost traditional Christianity.

Now they kneel at the alter of the church of the heartless bastard.

Please stop taking the Lords name in vain or pretending you know how Christians should live.

You don’t have compassion or charity for people by giving away the money of others. Christians follow the Ten Commandments. Including the ones that say to work and thou shall not steal.

I encourage you to learn and follow all ten