President Orders 5,000 Troops to US Border

[WEATHER53]

Get off my lawn and you’re not coming thru my front door.
Stand down or force will be used if necessary

 

[Wry Catcher]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

A gambit to keep the Republican Party in the majority, Wag the Dog style.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The WH needs to issue EOs that that temporarily gives the troops the power to stop the invasion at the southern border and immediately deport the invaders. Otherwise all we have is the border patrol, and they would be overwhelmed. So I like the troops there, but we need to allow them to "detain" illegals.

No, we don't.

The military exists for a singular purpose - to kill people and break shit. End of story. They are not police and using the military as police NEVER works out well. It seems there are far to few that realize this anymore.

I guess you never heard of the military police?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Worthless!!!! Support troops only. No combat units.

Why do you need combat units? Are you planning on assaulting a beachhead or using helicopters to fly the troops into Mexico?

Support units know how to fight also.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

drawing on any troops is stupid. They have duties and missions. Guarding a border is not one of them. we live in America, not shitty Israel or some other bullshit nation

I disagree. Guarding the border should be the main purpose of the US Military. I gave a different view of Posse Cometatis than you do.

DHS and the Border Patrol don’t seem to be able to seal the birder airtight so the military is needed

That's because you are a moron. You can't even spell it correctly, much less define it.

BTW, what's a birder?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh...now the pathetic "women and children".

Strange how just women and children can trek 4000 miles all by their lonesome.

The pioneers did it when America started its expansion westward. Women and children also traveled and they did it on foot and in wagons.

By themselves? Not hardly!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It’s a shrewd move by the President. This move gets Democrats and the media talking about illegal immigration the week before the midterms. That’s only going to help the GOP. Especially after Democrats start saying things that make it look like they care more about illegals than citizens like they always do.

Going to be an interesting week

If you have been watching Trump at all this past week, you would have seen him downplay both the bombings AND the shootings, because he wanted to get back to his immigrant caravan narrative.

You have not been watching Trump if that is what you claim to have seen.

Why are you such a pathetic liar?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It’s a shrewd move by the President. This move gets Democrats and the media talking about illegal immigration the week before the midterms. That’s only going to help the GOP. Especially after Democrats start saying things that make it look like they care more about illegals than citizens like they always do.

Going to be an interesting week

If you have been watching Trump at all this past week, you would have seen him downplay both the bombings AND the shootings, because he wanted to get back to his immigrant caravan narrative.

----------------------------------------- GOOD , what can be said about some bombings and a shooting thats already been done by some lefties BS. Seems to me that the Caravan is Current news BSailor .

They are still 1,000 miles away. Current estimates say they won't be here for at least two more weeks.

Unfortunately for the GOP, that is after the elections.

At the rate they are dropping like flies, there won't be but a few dozen left by next week!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And, for you people who are cheering that the military is gonna stop and detain those who try to cross the border, you might wanna re-think your position. The military won't be able to do anything concerning the immigrants, they will be there in a support position only.

From the link.......................................

Because the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military from performing law enforcement activities within the United States, these troops will be in support roles only. They will not have arresting power and won't interact with migrants.

Those deployed will include engineers, planners, military police, pilots, cooks and medical personnel. Among the work the troops will undertake is the building of camps to house CBP personnel along the Mexican border.


They are gonna build camps, and cook for the BP, but that is about it.

If some of you people had actually SERVED in the military, you would know what kind of a waste it is.

I served
they can protect the US anytime--anywhere --DUMBASS
you DUMBASS--it's NOT law enforcement!!!!!!!!!!! DUH

Guess you never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act eh? And, while there are exceptions, none of them apply here.

The Posse Comitatus Act > U.S. Northern Command > Article View


The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.


The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.


The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

• The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.
• Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.
• Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.


And, in order for the Insurrection Act to apply, it has to be requested by the states legislature or governor.

The other two involving nuclear, biological and chemical weapons doesn't apply here either.

Guess you never heard of Marshall Law eh?

Wasn't he a character on Gunsmoke? No, that was Marshall Dillon!

You mean martial law?

Stop embarrassing yourself!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And, for you people who are cheering that the military is gonna stop and detain those who try to cross the border, you might wanna re-think your position. The military won't be able to do anything concerning the immigrants, they will be there in a support position only.

From the link.......................................

Because the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military from performing law enforcement activities within the United States, these troops will be in support roles only. They will not have arresting power and won't interact with migrants.

Those deployed will include engineers, planners, military police, pilots, cooks and medical personnel. Among the work the troops will undertake is the building of camps to house CBP personnel along the Mexican border.


They are gonna build camps, and cook for the BP, but that is about it.

If some of you people had actually SERVED in the military, you would know what kind of a waste it is.

I served
they can protect the US anytime--anywhere --DUMBASS
you DUMBASS--it's NOT law enforcement!!!!!!!!!!! DUH

Guess you never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act eh? And, while there are exceptions, none of them apply here.

The Posse Comitatus Act > U.S. Northern Command > Article View


The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.


The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.


The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

• The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.
• Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.
• Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.


And, in order for the Insurrection Act to apply, it has to be requested by the states legislature or governor.

The other two involving nuclear, biological and chemical weapons doesn't apply here either.

Guess you never heard of Marshall Law eh?

I've never heard of Marshall Law, but I have heard of martial law.

Martial law is the imposition of direct military control of normal civilian functions of government, especially in response to a temporary emergency such as invasion or major disaster, or in an occupied territory. Martial law can be used by governments to enforce their rule over the public.


And, martial law is generally used by dictators.

LOL, grammar? You're a pansy son.

"Martial law is the imposition of direct military control of normal civilian functions of government, especially in response to a temporary emergency such as invasion or major disaster, or in an occupied territory."

Precisely. The "Latinos" will be stopped and sent home. Go with them. Sailors don't get to question the real service of others.

Far be it from me to back up Biker, but he is a fellow sailor. It's not grammar. You chose the wrong word.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sucks to be an illegal, they will be stopped.

They are not illegals.... They would be Refugees...

People seeking Asylum are not criminals or illegals...

If they do not seek asylum via the proper procedure, they are breaking our laws, and guess what? That makes them illegals and thus criminals.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

So the 5 time draft dodger, from a family of generational draft dodgers is going to waste tax payers money sending combat killing machines to do clerical and other menial work at the border?

Hey, someone has to shoot these scoundrels...

So ask yourself, where are her belongings?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The WH needs to issue EOs that that temporarily gives the troops the power to stop the invasion at the southern border and immediately deport the invaders. Otherwise all we have is the border patrol, and they would be overwhelmed. So I like the troops there, but we need to allow them to "detain" illegals.

No, we don't.

The military exists for a singular purpose - to kill people and break shit. End of story. They are not police and using the military as police NEVER works out well. It seems there are far to few that realize this anymore.

Actually, you are wrong. The military exist to defend the Constitution and by default, the nation.

There is no function more basic to the defense of a nation than to defend its borders.

It was the job of the military to defend the borders for the first 150 years or so of the nation's existence and they should be doing it now.

Border defense is not a police function.

That is very true...

And if this was an invading army or a least Militia then there is a case...

But if these people present themselves as asylum seekers then that is not an invasion and it isn't even illegal...

As to people who say that should seek safety in Mexico? If you are fleeing gang violence in Honduras, those gangs should have plenty of power to still get you in Mexico...
MS-13 and Barrio 18 are a gangs which originated in the US and has the main power in Central America fuelled by US Drug market...

If they passed Mexico City, they can't present themselves as asylum seekers.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

So the 5 time draft dodger, from a family of generational draft dodgers is going to waste tax payers money sending combat killing machines to do clerical and other menial work at the border?

Hey, someone has to shoot these scoundrels...

So ask yourself, where are her belongings?

By the looks of her, it looks like she ate them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

YES, we have a problem with illegals, But.... we have the stupidest ideas & solutions to these problems. and wont be fixed by the flaying around being done by both sides.

Flaying? I think you mean something other than peeling their skin off!

Try again! In English this time, libtard!

 

[oreo]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Why is Trump wasting this kind of money?

There are right now 100's of Federali's & Mexican military on the southern border of Mexico already making certain that the "caravan" doesn't get into Mexico. Yes, Mexico does have a border that it protects and they don't want them in their country either. So "if" they get across into Mexico it will be another 1,982 miles before they reach our southern border, and throughout all of that, they .will be stopped FREQUENTLY by Mexican military and asked for papers, and if they don't have papers they will be sent back promptly.

Really, I don't think a Trump Tard has ever been gone further than their backyard, but anyone who has traveled to Mexico KNOWS THIS.

Mexico sent federal forces to its southern border Wednesday after President Trump called on several Latin American nations to stop a large caravan of Honduran immigrants heading toward the United States.Mexico’s federal police released images of two planes arriving in Tapachula, a Mexican city on the border with Guatemala that is a popular crossing point for migrants heading north. News reports showed hundreds of agents disembarking from the planes, some carrying riot gear.

Mexico sends federal forces to its southern border as migrant caravan heads north

And of course Honduras is going to pay for it--

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Sucks to be an illegal, they will be stopped.

They are not illegals.... They would be Refugees...

People seeking Asylum are not criminals or illegals...

The minute Mexico offered asylum and got turned down, the illegals became invading criminals.

 

[OKTexas]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Worthless!!!! Support troops only. No combat units.

drawing on any troops is stupid. They have duties and missions. Guarding a border is not one of them. we live in America, not shitty Israel or some other bullshit nation

You've never been in the military have ya coward?

.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Why is Trump wasting this kind of money?

There are right now 100's of Federali's & Mexican military on the southern border of Mexico already making certain that the "caravan" doesn't get into Mexico. Yes, Mexico does have a border that it protects and they don't want them in their country either. So "if" they get across into Mexico it will be another 1,982 miles before they reach our southern border, and throughout all of that, they .will be stopped FREQUENTLY by Mexican military and asked for papers, and if they don't have papers they will be sent back promptly.

Really, I don't think a Trump Tard has ever been gone further than their backyard, but anyone who has traveled to Mexico KNOWS THIS.

Mexico sent federal forces to its southern border Wednesday after President Trump called on several Latin American nations to stop a large caravan of Honduran immigrants heading toward the United States.Mexico’s federal police released images of two planes arriving in Tapachula, a Mexican city on the border with Guatemala that is a popular crossing point for migrants heading north. News reports showed hundreds of agents disembarking from the planes, some carrying riot gear.

Mexico sends federal forces to its southern border as migrant caravan heads north

And of course Honduras is going to pay for it--

If that is so, why are they in Mexico only 1000 miles away from our border?

 

[oreo]

The build-up begins.

Pentagon: 5,000 Troops Will Be Deployed To U.S.-Mexico Border

Why is Trump wasting this kind of money?

There are right now 100's of Federali's & Mexican military on the southern border of Mexico already making certain that the "caravan" doesn't get into Mexico. Yes, Mexico does have a border that it protects and they don't want them in their country either. So "if" they get across into Mexico it will be another 1,982 miles before they reach our southern border, and throughout all of that, they .will be stopped FREQUENTLY by Mexican military and asked for papers, and if they don't have papers they will be sent back promptly.

Really, I don't think a Trump Tard has ever been gone further than their backyard, but anyone who has traveled to Mexico KNOWS THIS.

Mexico sent federal forces to its southern border Wednesday after President Trump called on several Latin American nations to stop a large caravan of Honduran immigrants heading toward the United States.Mexico’s federal police released images of two planes arriving in Tapachula, a Mexican city on the border with Guatemala that is a popular crossing point for migrants heading north. News reports showed hundreds of agents disembarking from the planes, some carrying riot gear.

Mexico sends federal forces to its southern border as migrant caravan heads north

And of course Honduras is going to pay for it--

If that is so, why are they in Mexico only 1000 miles away from our border?

Of course you have a verifiable credible link to that--or is that just what you're hearing from the usual sources. I have traveled a lot down to Mexico. There are basically 2 main highways that will get you through North to South Mexico. They are heavily guarded by Mexican military, who stop everyone at frequent checkpoints. It's not like coming into the States where there are side roads and highways everywhere to avoid detection.

This caravan doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of making it to our border undetected. Mexicans don't want them in their country either, because they become a burden to them.