Question for my conservative friends here.

[Hutch Starskey]

I would suggest waiting until the appeals are done.

Appeals are done while the convicted is serving their sentence.

 

[MarathonMike]

Has the whistleblower shown up yet?

Adam Schiff's Whistleblower never did show up. Not only that, there is no evidence he ever existed unlike the FBI whistleblowers visiting with GOP Congressmen.

 

[elektra]

Trump isn’t being tried for taking them. He’s charged with not returning them when ordered to do so.

no, he is being charged under the Espionage act, and now that you defined what Trump did (although you are wrong but we can pretend for you, this time), how is that espionage?

 

[elektra]

Appeals are done while the convicted is serving their sentence.

You are very ignorant, appeals can be done before sentencing, sentencing can be delayed while awaiting an appeal, a person remain out of jail, awaiting their appeal.

You should educate yourself before displaying your ignorance.

 

[elektra]

Father is doing no such thing.

In Trump's case Jack Smith interviewed many Trump staff and lawyers and got photos, documents, emails, text to prove Trump's intent with the documents he should have returned, just as he returned the first 15 boxes in January of 2022.

WIth Biden, there are nothing but allegations, many coming from three years ago from Giuliani, where there is no evidence AT ALL to indict or do anything else with. There is no truth to it.


The Grand Jury from Florida indicted Trump based on evidence, nothing else.


It is up to the prosecutors to prove that Trump did what he did, took what he took when the trial starts.


All of it with a Jury of people who live in Florida

bullshit, you dont know what you are talking about.

Intent to not return? Not returning Presidential Private Papers, is now espionage. You obviously have not read the law.

Here is the problem with your confusion, you are describing violations of the Presidential Records Act which gives President Trump authority to possess Presidential Papers, as violations of the Espionage act.

You have not read the Grand Jury's investigation, which is secret, so nobody including you knows what happened in their investigation.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And you do know, that there is no document or statement from the National Archives, establishing the intent to take physical custody of these documents, when the Government packed and shipped these boxes of documents for President Trump.

Stop lying.

National Archives warned Trump attorneys in 2021 about missing White House documents, including correspondence with Kim Jong-Un​

National Archives warned Trump attorneys in 2021 about missing White House documents, including correspondence with Kim Jong-Un

The letter from the Archives' lead attorney urged the former president's legal team to find and return approximately two dozen boxes of missing records.

www.cbsnews.com

National Archives letter to Trump's lawyers in May outlined urgency of Mar-a-Lago document inquiry​

National Archives letter to Trump's lawyers in May outlined urgency of Mar-a-Lago document inquiry

The May 10 letter to Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran said there were "important national security interests" in accessing the documents.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You are very ignorant, appeals can be done before sentencing, sentencing can be delayed while awaiting an appeal, a person remain out of jail, awaiting their appeal.

You should educate yourself before displaying your ignorance.

Good luck with that.

 

[easyt65]

If Trump is found guilty in the documents case with Cannon presiding, will you agree the government proved its case and Trump deserves the punishment meted out?

Before the obvious question is asked, yes I will believe the government did not prove its case if he is acquitted with Cannon presiding..

I will point out that the fact that Biden's and Hillary's cases are.much worse but agree completely seperate from the case against Trump.

I will also point out that there are legitimate historical and legal cases against why this indictment should never have happened.

In answer to your question it completely depends on many details in the case, how the case plays out, not JUST the verdict... wouldn't you agree?

 

[elektra]

Stop lying.

National Archives warned Trump attorneys in 2021 about missing White House documents, including correspondence with Kim Jong-Un​

National Archives warned Trump attorneys in 2021 about missing White House documents, including correspondence with Kim Jong-Un

The letter from the Archives' lead attorney urged the former president's legal team to find and return approximately two dozen boxes of missing records.

www.cbsnews.com

National Archives letter to Trump's lawyers in May outlined urgency of Mar-a-Lago document inquiry​

National Archives letter to Trump's lawyers in May outlined urgency of Mar-a-Lago document inquiry

The May 10 letter to Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran said there were "important national security interests" in accessing the documents.

www.usatoday.com

give me a break, this is the story to convince the idiots there is a crime.

How about showing us something from 2020 when President Trump left office.

But according to your link, the National Archives was being directed by Joe Biden and his lawyers. Thank you for pointing out how Biden is conducting this politically motivated investigation and trial.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The PRA does not speak of, legal possession. You are simply making things up. Go ahead and link to it, again.

I will then use your link, again, to show that you are wrong, again.

There was a freakin subpoena ordering the return of documents, dope.

 

[elektra]

There was a freakin subpoena ordering the return of documents, dope.

of course there was, this is a political hit, a sham trial, with real lawyers, real judges, subpoenas, all to convince the democratic sheeple to go along

They can issue all the subpoenas they like, that does not mean they are obeying the law. They already saw they can get FISA warrants against President Trump by lying, and nothing will happen. Now they will issue subpoenas, violating the procedures of the courts, because they have already seen they can get away with lying.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

give me a break, this is the story to convince the idiots there is a crime.

How about showing us something from 2020 when President Trump left office.

But according to your link, the National Archives was being directed by Joe Biden and his lawyers. Thank you for pointing out how Biden is conducting this politically motivated investigation and trial.

You are a shameless liar.
Trump left office in 2021, dope. Just before NARA started requesting the return of docs.

It would take another full year for Trump to return anything.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

 

[Hutch Starskey]

of course there was, this is a political hit, a sham trial, with real lawyers, real judges, subpoenas, all to convince the democratic sheeple to go along

They can issue all the subpoenas they like, that does not mean they are obeying the law. They already saw they can get FISA warrants against President Trump by lying, and nothing will happen. Now they will issue subpoenas, violating the procedures of the courts, because they have already seen they can get away with lying.

You’re such a loser to lie so stupidly.

 

[elektra]

You are a shameless liar.
Trump left office in 2021, dope. Just before NARA started requesting the return of docs.

It would take another full year for Trump to return anything.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

except of course, you have no proof, and there is the fact that Trump is entitled to keep Presidential Records in his physical custody, hence no charges that President Trump violated the Presidential Records act.

 

[Magnus]

Why should there be a trial at all? Hillary doesnt have a trial. Why does Trump? Are you seeing a pattern here?

Is it the pattern of whining? Yeah, I do see it. That's pretty much all you trumptards have left.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Until they prosecute Joe Biden For Stealing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS while he was a senator,I'll say the government is thoroughly corrupt

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Adam Schiff's Whistleblower never did show up. Not only that, there is no evidence he ever existed unlike the FBI whistleblowers visiting with GOP Congressmen.

You have nothing without them.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

no, he is being charged under the Espionage act, and now that you defined what Trump did (although you are wrong but we can pretend for you, this time), how is that espionage?

Derp… one of the statutes, dope. There are seven.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

except of course, you have no proof, and there is the fact that Trump is entitled to keep Presidential Records in his physical custody, hence no charges that President Trump violated the Presidential Records act.

I just posted it, dope.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

no, he is being charged under the Espionage act, and now that you defined what Trump did (although you are wrong but we can pretend for you, this time), how is that espionage?

It is one of thirty-seven charges, and it is a good one.