quick question for those claiming that because Trump isnt President anymore he couldnt declassify stuff in his possession

[okfine]

There is no set “procedure” for a President to declassify. He just says they are declassified and they are. Period.

You believe Trump mouth breathers like Patel, I assume.

 

[BlueGin]

Is he the President now?
What was he doing with documents still labeled Top Secret at his home?

Isn't that a security issue for the whole nation?

The documents at his home were related to his administration. Taken while he was President and had the right to do as CIC.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Stepping back from "if he could", I will assume you worked with classified material during your time in the Marine Corps.

So, let me ask you this...


Do you not see any problems at all in documents becoming declassified merely by being moved from one location to the other without the one doing the declassifying even knowing what they are?

Do you not see the problems that can arise from boxes of unknown documents being made declassified while the copies of those same documents were still considered classified since nobody even knows what documents had been declassified?

Do these two things seem like a good practice to you?

doesnt matter it is the Presidents power to use any way he sees fit to use it,

 

[BlueGin]

You believe Trump mouth breathers like Patel, I assume.

Please discribe the process Presidents have to follow and who’s permission they have to seek.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The documents at his home were related to his administration. Taken while he was President and had the right to do as CIC.

CIC is?

Not ANY President has the right to take any Top Secret documents when they leave office, especially 11 sets of them.

 

[okfine]

Please discribe the process Presidents have to follow and who’s permission they have to seek.

I think that is on you.

 

[BlueGin]

CIC is?

Not ANY President has the right to take any Top Secret documents when they leave office, especially 11 sets of them.

I already told you what CIC means?

 

[BlueGin]

I think that is on you.

According to the SC he makes the rules. So…you tell me what you think the rules are.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

doesnt matter it is the Presidents power to use any way he sees fit to use it,

Of course it matters.

Just because someone can do something does not mean they should.

But I understand, if you were to say anything remotely negative about Trump you would risk the ire of your tribe, and that is more important than your integrity.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Please discribe the process Presidents have to follow and who’s permission they have to seek.

Public Interest Declassification Board
Requests for declassification can also be made to the Public Interest Declassification Board (PIDB). The Public Interest Declassification Act of 2000 (Title VII of P.L. 106-567) established the Public Interest Declassification Board (PIDB) to provide advice to the President and other senior national security officials “on the systematic, thorough, coordinated, and comprehensive identification, collection, review for declassification, and release to Congress, interested agencies, and the public of declassified records and materials ... that are of archival value, including records and materials of extraordinary public interest.” The PIDB meets once a month to make recommendations on declassification of records to the President who makes a final decision. In 2021, for example, the PIDB recommended the President declassify and release particular records related to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In making its recommendations, the PIDB includes input from Congress “made by the committee of jurisdiction or by a member of the committee of jurisdiction, to declassify certain records, to evaluate the proper classification of certain records, or to reconsider a declination to declassify specific records” (50 U.S.C. §3355(b)(5)).

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12183

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Of course it matters.

Just because someone can do something does not mean they should.

But I understand, if you were to say anything remotely negative about Trump you would risk the ire of your tribe, and that is more important than your integrity.

ANY president has that power and all have used it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

According to the SC he makes the rules. So…you tell me what you think the rules are.

But your link to these rules and who decides them is where ?

 

[BlueGin]

Public Interest Declassification Board
Requests for declassification can also be made to the Public Interest Declassification Board (PIDB). The Public Interest Declassification Act of 2000 (Title VII of P.L. 106-567) established the Public Interest Declassification Board (PIDB) to provide advice to the President and other senior national security officials “on the systematic, thorough, coordinated, and comprehensive identification, collection, review for declassification, and release to Congress, interested agencies, and the public of declassified records and materials ... that are of archival value, including records and materials of extraordinary public interest.” The PIDB meets once a month to make recommendations on declassification of records to the President who makes a final decision. In 2021, for example, the PIDB recommended the President declassify and release particular records related to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In making its recommendations, the PIDB includes input from Congress “made by the committee of jurisdiction or by a member of the committee of jurisdiction, to declassify certain records, to evaluate the proper classification of certain records, or to reconsider a declination to declassify specific records” (50 U.S.C. §3355(b)(5)).

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12183

So you think the president has to request permission to declassify documents

 

[Sixties Fan]

I already told you what CIC means?

You did not. Just post it again not to waste each other's time.

 

[Sixties Fan]

So you think the president has to request permission to declassify documents

So you think that there are no rules at all to declassify Top Secret documents, that they are just like a lollipop, just ask for it and you get it?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The irreparable harm that you should care about, but don't, is that Americans now trust the entire govt even LESS if that is at all possible. And now, even more Americans.

Dangerous.

Like Nixon before him, Trump should be subject to criminal prosecution.

That neither were held accountable for their crimes means Republican corruption and criminality will continue to flourish.

 

[BlueGin]

But your link to these rules and who decides them is where ?

Article 2 of the Constitution. So says the Supreme Court.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You did not. Just post it again not to waste each other's time.

CIC means commander in chief, pretty straight forward thing even 10 year olds know it.

 

[BlueGin]

So you think that there are no rules at all to declassify Top Secret documents, that they are just like a lollipop, just ask for it and you get it?

Yes. The president has the ultimate power to declassify documents. He doesn’t have to ask some pencil pusher for permission.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Article 2 of the Constitution. So says the Supreme Court.

CIC means commander in chief, pretty straight forward thing even 10 year olds know it.

Thank you. Too many alphabet soups to remember them all. It happens to all.