Radicals Abort Free Speech Rights of Leftists.

[Gunny]

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NeoCon. You argue with Dante but what's the difference between you two? Nothing I can see.

there we go -- old school.


try to discredit Dante by linking him to the most irrational boob on the boards.

old school rocks!

Because he's as stupid as you/you're as stupid as him?

I accept that accusation. You are.

 

[Gunny]

ROFLMNAO...

Of ALL the POSSIBLE LESSONS that one could take away from the fact that all of the socialist cultures were the OPPOSITE of what they promised to BE... YOU IDIOTS CONCLUDED THAT THEY WERE NOT SOCIALISTS!

Bad news Scooter... SOCIALIST ARE: LIARS AND FOOLS!

There has never been, and never will be because man is involved, a true socialist culture.

You CAN have a truly stupid, self-serving government that pits the people against each other with faux arguments to hide their rape of our wallets.

Now THAT is true. But it's a sham perpetrated by both "sides."

I agree. It is a sham perpetrated by both sides.

 

[MaggieMae]

Again, you are trying to play word games and lump differing ideologies into two categories, right and left. At the same time, you choose to ignore the socialist tenets of fascism, trying to smokescreen with a "conservative fascism" red herring.

True conservatives cannot be fascists. Do bear in mind I did not say NEOCONS, Republicans, religious fundies or just any politician can't be.

Smaller government and government at the lowest level, personal accountability and maximum personal freedom ... all tenets of conservatism AND the US Constitution ... are in direct contrast to fascism and socialism where the state controls all at every level and redistributes wealth as it sees fit.

Or takes over takes over a a private sector auto manufacturer, a bank, healthcare and now is ranting about Wall Street.

What needs to be controlled is Obama and his fearmongering government takeover of the private sector.

Healthcare is the only valid argument there, Gunny. No one "took over" the banks; in fact, they're right back in business which is why financial reform is needed. You disagree with that? Fine, I wonder what you'll say when they screw you over again. As for the auto industry, neither Obama nor GM/Chrysler want to be "owned" by the government. Without that "bailout" (again, those were loans not purchase agreements), tens of thousands more would be standing in unemployment lines.

The Fed has seized AIG. A bank. Obama made it clear to GM if they didn't play ball with Obama they wouldn't get bailed out. He (Obama) replaced the GM of GM. He hijacked healthcare.

So what did I miss? Now. he's after the SEC.

When do we pay for this? After he's out of office? By then, he's got a set 5-figure income.

When the state dictates to the private sector and controls at every level, that's fascism. I'll take the GOP and their pansy attitude of do-nothingness every time over detrimental to our civil liberties.

We'll probably never agree on any of that because I saw the financial crisis as having the potential to completely destroy this country, which required radical and immediate solutions. (All of which has been extensively discussed elsewhere, as you know.) We may discover at some point that those fixes were all wrong, but I'm still not willing to concede that they were at this point. Continuing the rallying cry of "don't tread on me" (civil liberties), while noble and patriotic, doesn't put food on the table, pay the rent, or keep a person's job intact so that he can do both.

 

[Gunny]

The Fed has seized AIG. A bank. Obama made it clear to GM if they didn't play ball with Obama they wouldn't get bailed out. He (Obama) replaced the GM of GM. He hijacked healthcare.

So what did I miss? Now. he's after the SEC.

When do we pay for this? After he's out of office? By then, he's got a set 5-figure income.

When the state dictates to the private sector and controls at every level, that's fascism. I'll take the GOP and their pansy attitude of do-nothingness every time over detrimental to our civil liberties.

OMG! AIG has been seized by the fed? Does Obama know about this?

Obama is the GM of GM?

Hijacked health care? The government runs how many hospitals?

Yada yada yada .... the truth will set you free. You should know all about free what with that free ride you want.

btw ... you're getting destroyed. Try leaving. It works.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Fed has seized AIG. A bank. Obama made it clear to GM if they didn't play ball with Obama they wouldn't get bailed out. He (Obama) replaced the GM of GM. He hijacked healthcare.

So what did I miss? Now. he's after the SEC.

When do we pay for this? After he's out of office? By then, he's got a set 5-figure income.

When the state dictates to the private sector and controls at every level, that's fascism. I'll take the GOP and their pansy attitude of do-nothingness every time over detrimental to our civil liberties.

OMG! AIG has been seized by the fed? Does Obama know about this?

Obama is the GM of GM?

Hijacked health care? The government runs how many hospitals?

Yada yada yada .... the truth will set you free. You should know all about free what with that free ride you want.

btw ... you're getting destroyed. Try leaving. It works.

at some point life calls.


have fun with the propaganda. and take care of that clubbed foot.

Heil!

 

[MaggieMae]

what have all the weight room broads put down the hormone treatments and come to watch Gunny play with the boys?

Well, so far in this thread anyway, I haven't seen Gunny say things like "eat shit and die." He has strong opinions, and I usually disagree with him 95% of the time especially when he makes radical remarks, but it seems to me you're the one looking for a fight.

most every post is a fight when dealing with propagandists. I have always considered Gunny to be a propagandist.


sorry, but my affection for Gunny as a person does not distort my view of reality

These forums ARE propaganda!! It's why they exist. "Facts" are out there in other venues. But I sure wouldn't single out Gunny as being the worst of right-wing propagandists. There are others who shall not be named lol that I've finally realized I have to put on ignore, but only to keep my blood pressure on an even keel.

 

[Gunny]

what have all the weight room broads put down the hormone treatments and come to watch Gunny play with the boys?

Maybe she's smart enough to differentiate between this forum and the Flame Zone? How hard is THAT?

Again, discuss the topic or take your loser, I have to personally attack because I can't make a valid point argument where you know it belongs.

I'm not telling you again.

I have always had a style. I post threads in the flame zone. every asshole here flames in a post.

Not to your point, extremist. Take your personal attacks to the Flame Zone. That's why I created it. So I didn't have to ban jerkoff's like you. Not everyone likes to be an idiot that couldn't find water at the end of a pier like you.

Your choice. Wanna play?

 

[Gunny]

OMG! AIG has been seized by the fed? Does Obama know about this?

Obama is the GM of GM?

Hijacked health care? The government runs how many hospitals?

Yada yada yada .... the truth will set you free. You should know all about free what with that free ride you want.

btw ... you're getting destroyed. Try leaving. It works.

at some point life calls.


have fun with the propaganda. and take care of that clubbed foot.

Heil!

The clubbed foot I can put over your head? I will. Hope you got a good dentist.

 

[Gunny]

Well, so far in this thread anyway, I haven't seen Gunny say things like "eat shit and die." He has strong opinions, and I usually disagree with him 95% of the time especially when he makes radical remarks, but it seems to me you're the one looking for a fight.

most every post is a fight when dealing with propagandists. I have always considered Gunny to be a propagandist.


sorry, but my affection for Gunny as a person does not distort my view of reality

These forums ARE propaganda!! It's why they exist. "Facts" are out there in other venues. But I sure wouldn't single out Gunny as being the worst of right-wing propagandists. There are others who shall not be named lol that I've finally realized I have to put on ignore, but only to keep my blood pressure on an even keel.

Depends on how you define "right-winger". The only political party I ever belonged to was the Democratic party. I haven't really changed in 30 years. The parties have. They're about politics, maintaining the staus quo, and lining their own pockets.

You DO realize all of these programs as of late won't affect the politicians? Just "we the people". They still get their pay and perks. Free laundry. Free trips home. Free rental vehicles. Free apartments in DC.

All at OUR expense.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Maybe she's smart enough to differentiate between this forum and the Flame Zone? How hard is THAT?

Again, discuss the topic or take your loser, I have to personally attack because I can't make a valid point argument where you know it belongs.

I'm not telling you again.

I have always had a style. I post threads in the flame zone. every asshole here flames in a post.

Not to your point, extremist. Take your personal attacks to the Flame Zone. That's why I created it. So I didn't have to ban jerkoff's like you. Not everyone likes to be an idiot that couldn't find water at the end of a pier like you.

Your choice. Wanna play?

all personal attacks belong in the flame zone? if this is true, it's the first time I've been told this.

are you sure?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Yada yada yada .... the truth will set you free. You should know all about free what with that free ride you want.

btw ... you're getting destroyed. Try leaving. It works.

at some point life calls.


have fun with the propaganda. and take care of that clubbed foot.

Heil!

The clubbed foot I can put over your head? I will. Hope you got a good dentist.

as a matter of fact, I do.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

most every post is a fight when dealing with propagandists. I have always considered Gunny to be a propagandist.


sorry, but my affection for Gunny as a person does not distort my view of reality

These forums ARE propaganda!! It's why they exist. "Facts" are out there in other venues. But I sure wouldn't single out Gunny as being the worst of right-wing propagandists. There are others who shall not be named lol that I've finally realized I have to put on ignore, but only to keep my blood pressure on an even keel.

Depends on how you define "right-winger". The only political party I ever belonged to was the Democratic party. I haven't really changed in 30 years. The parties have. They're about politics, maintaining the staus quo, and lining their own pockets.

You DO realize all of these programs as of late won't affect the politicians? Just "we the people". They still get their pay and perks. Free laundry. Free trips home. Free rental vehicles. Free apartments in DC.

All at OUR expense.

Free apts in DC? where do you get your info?

Pay and perks? HEll how dare they work and get pay and perks! How dare they.

 

[saveliberty]

do you have a fucking clue what is going on here?

no?


thought so.

carry on

If you mean principles, free speech or your runnig battle with Gunny, I'd say yep.

Got that name tag sewed in yet?

eat shit and die.



I have no clue what drugs you are on, but I am not a counselor anymore. seek help elsewhere.

Comments like that and thinking I even take a vitamin, no wonder you aren't a counselor anymore. I'll restate my position. Many here have principles, free speech has limits and rightfully so. Listing active spies and military personnel in a newspaper article for example.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

If you mean principles, free speech or your runnig battle with Gunny, I'd say yep.

Got that name tag sewed in yet?

eat shit and die.



I have no clue what drugs you are on, but I am not a counselor anymore. seek help elsewhere.

Comments like that and thinking I even take a vitamin, no wonder you aren't a counselor anymore. I'll restate my position. Many here have principles, free speech has limits and rightfully so. Listing active spies and military personnel in a newspaper article for example.

Listing active spies? And military personnel's names are state secrets? If there are hired guns working outside the oversight of government I don't care who outs them.

Who has outed active spies and military personnel?

 

[saveliberty]

eat shit and die.



I have no clue what drugs you are on, but I am not a counselor anymore. seek help elsewhere.

Comments like that and thinking I even take a vitamin, no wonder you aren't a counselor anymore. I'll restate my position. Many here have principles, free speech has limits and rightfully so. Listing active spies and military personnel in a newspaper article for example.

Listing active spies? And military personnel's names are state secrets? If there are hired guns working outside the oversight of government I don't care who outs them.

Who has outed active spies and military personnel?

The issue is free speech. Geez, now your forgetting within minutes of being reminded of the topic. Protected speech, yes or no?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Comments like that and thinking I even take a vitamin, no wonder you aren't a counselor anymore. I'll restate my position. Many here have principles, free speech has limits and rightfully so. Listing active spies and military personnel in a newspaper article for example.

Listing active spies? And military personnel's names are state secrets? If there are hired guns working outside the oversight of government I don't care who outs them.

Who has outed active spies and military personnel?

The issue is free speech. Geez, now your forgetting within minutes of being reminded of the topic. Protected speech, yes or no?

I understand the principle(s) involved. I just can't see past your straw men and red herrings?

Free Speech has limits. Everything has limits. What is your point?

 

[saveliberty]

Listing active spies? And military personnel's names are state secrets? If there are hired guns working outside the oversight of government I don't care who outs them.

Who has outed active spies and military personnel?

The issue is free speech. Geez, now your forgetting within minutes of being reminded of the topic. Protected speech, yes or no?

I understand the principle(s) involved. I just can't see past your straw men and red herrings?

Free Speech has limits. Everything has limits. What is your point?

That free speech has limits and some on USMB have principles. You need a break and since you won't stop as long as I post on the thread, I'll stop here for now.

Do you need a 9:45 or a 10:45 session tomorrow?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The issue is free speech. Geez, now your forgetting within minutes of being reminded of the topic. Protected speech, yes or no?

I understand the principle(s) involved. I just can't see past your straw men and red herrings?

Free Speech has limits. Everything has limits. What is your point?

That free speech has limits and some on USMB have principles. You need a break and since you won't stop as long as I post on the thread, I'll stop here for now.

Do you need a 9:45 or a 10:45 session tomorrow?

9:50 will do fine


thank you


some on USMB have principles. never said the contrary. define: some

 

[Gunny]

at some point life calls.


have fun with the propaganda. and take care of that clubbed foot.

Heil!

The clubbed foot I can put over your head? I will. Hope you got a good dentist.

as a matter of fact, I do.

These forums ARE propaganda!! It's why they exist. "Facts" are out there in other venues. But I sure wouldn't single out Gunny as being the worst of right-wing propagandists. There are others who shall not be named lol that I've finally realized I have to put on ignore, but only to keep my blood pressure on an even keel.

Depends on how you define "right-winger". The only political party I ever belonged to was the Democratic party. I haven't really changed in 30 years. The parties have. They're about politics, maintaining the staus quo, and lining their own pockets.

You DO realize all of these programs as of late won't affect the politicians? Just "we the people". They still get their pay and perks. Free laundry. Free trips home. Free rental vehicles. Free apartments in DC.

All at OUR expense.

Free apts in DC? where do you get your info?

Pay and perks? HEll how dare they work and get pay and perks! How dare they.

Let me know when you learn to debate and get an argument. You're just proving yourself the fool you are.

 

[Gunny]

Listing active spies? And military personnel's names are state secrets? If there are hired guns working outside the oversight of government I don't care who outs them.

Who has outed active spies and military personnel?

The issue is free speech. Geez, now your forgetting within minutes of being reminded of the topic. Protected speech, yes or no?

I understand the principle(s) involved. I just can't see past your straw men and red herrings?

Free Speech has limits. Everything has limits. What is your point?

My point is learn yours. Try getting an argument while you're at it.