Republicans are mostly to blame for our debt

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Tramp cared,
Trump touts tax law he previously called a disaster - YouTube

Min 120 on

no one else did

Republicans loved Reagan, he cut taxes twice and he raised the lowest bracket.

Remember tramp wanted them to invest in real estate, and he was a Democrat for a long time.

Anything that he felt it was good for him. Now he wants tax cuts, but he didn't back in the 80's.

Reagan passed the largest peace time tax hike in history which basically clawed back all the money from the income tax cuts.

Trump wasn't complaining about the tax cuts he was complaining about the tax increases Reagan signed into law after the first rounds of cuts

No he didn't, he twice cut taxes. Reagan only raised the lowest bracket in 1986.

Tramp was bitching about people playing the market instead of investing in real estate.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Economic Recovery Act of 1981, also known as the Reagan tax cuts, was the biggest reduction in U.S. taxes of the past 70 years, possibly even the biggest ever. 1 That much is reasonably well-known.



What is less well-known is that these cuts were then followed by a series of tax increases that, if you add them all together, were almost as big as or even bigger than the 1981 cuts, depending on the measure you use.

Taxes: What people forget about Reagan

Ronald Reagan is the patron saint of lower taxes and smaller government. He cut taxes, yes. But he also raised them several times, in part to reduce high deficits and in part to pave the way for true tax reform.

money.cnn.com

So, despite his public opposition to higher taxes, Reagan ended up signing off on several measures intended to raise more revenue.

"Reagan was certainly a tax cutter legislatively, emotionally and ideologically. But for a variety of political reasons, it was hard for him to ignore the cost of his tax cuts," said tax historian Joseph Thorndike.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Sounds awful!!

What were the rates before Reagan increased them? What were the rates after?

from the same link

The bills didn't raise more revenue by hiking individual income tax rates though. Instead they did it largely through making it tougher to evade taxes, and through "base broadening" -- that is, reducing various federal tax breaks and closing tax loopholes.

For instance, more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.

"What people forget about Ronald Reagan was that he very much converted to base broadening as a means of reducing deficits and as a means of tax reform," said Eugene Steuerle, an Institute Fellow at the Urban Institute who had helped lay the groundwork for tax reform in 1986 and served as a deputy assistant Treasury secretary during Reagan's second term.

There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

So he's the one that did this, and it hasn't increased in all the years!

Beginning in 1984, includes up to one-half of Social Security benefits as taxable income for taxpayers whose adjusted gross income, combined with half their benefits and any tax-exempt interest they may have exceeds $25,000 for a single taxpayer and $32,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly. Benefits received by married taxpayers filing separately are taxable without regard to other income. Appropriates amounts equal to estimated tax liability to the Social Security trust funds.
Social Security history (ssa.gov)

The rich should pay more, as they get higher amounts in their SS checks.

they get more because they paid in more.

why is it you people want to ignore the truth about Reagan?

He said government is the problem but he oversaw one of the largest government expansions in history.

That's cuz he built up the military and cause the USSR to collapse. Money well spent, unless you are a Commie loving Dimwinger.

The USSR did not collapse because of Reagan's military spending.

the USSR did not ramp up their military spending because of Reagan in fact their military spending remained flat

The USSR economy collapsed under its own weight as most command control economies do.

Reagan and the Russians - 94.02

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

The Soviet Union's defense spending did not rise or fall in response to American military expenditures. Revised estimates by the Central Intelligence Agency indicate that Soviet expenditures on defense remained more or less constant throughout the 1980s. Neither the military buildup under Jimmy Carter and Reagan nor SDI had any real impact on gross spending levels in the USSR. At most SDI shifted the marginal allocation of defense rubles as some funds were allotted for developing countermeasures to ballistic defense.


The Soviet economy was in trouble in the 70's because of Brezhnev's military spending and it never recovered from that.

 

[Brain357]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Tramp cared,
Trump touts tax law he previously called a disaster - YouTube

Min 120 on

no one else did

Republicans loved Reagan, he cut taxes twice and he raised the lowest bracket.

Remember tramp wanted them to invest in real estate, and he was a Democrat for a long time.

Anything that he felt it was good for him. Now he wants tax cuts, but he didn't back in the 80's.

Reagan passed the largest peace time tax hike in history which basically clawed back all the money from the income tax cuts.

Trump wasn't complaining about the tax cuts he was complaining about the tax increases Reagan signed into law after the first rounds of cuts

No he didn't, he twice cut taxes. Reagan only raised the lowest bracket in 1986.

Tramp was bitching about people playing the market instead of investing in real estate.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Economic Recovery Act of 1981, also known as the Reagan tax cuts, was the biggest reduction in U.S. taxes of the past 70 years, possibly even the biggest ever. 1 That much is reasonably well-known.



What is less well-known is that these cuts were then followed by a series of tax increases that, if you add them all together, were almost as big as or even bigger than the 1981 cuts, depending on the measure you use.

Taxes: What people forget about Reagan

Ronald Reagan is the patron saint of lower taxes and smaller government. He cut taxes, yes. But he also raised them several times, in part to reduce high deficits and in part to pave the way for true tax reform.

money.cnn.com

So, despite his public opposition to higher taxes, Reagan ended up signing off on several measures intended to raise more revenue.

"Reagan was certainly a tax cutter legislatively, emotionally and ideologically. But for a variety of political reasons, it was hard for him to ignore the cost of his tax cuts," said tax historian Joseph Thorndike.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Sounds awful!!

What were the rates before Reagan increased them? What were the rates after?

from the same link

The bills didn't raise more revenue by hiking individual income tax rates though. Instead they did it largely through making it tougher to evade taxes, and through "base broadening" -- that is, reducing various federal tax breaks and closing tax loopholes.

For instance, more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.

"What people forget about Ronald Reagan was that he very much converted to base broadening as a means of reducing deficits and as a means of tax reform," said Eugene Steuerle, an Institute Fellow at the Urban Institute who had helped lay the groundwork for tax reform in 1986 and served as a deputy assistant Treasury secretary during Reagan's second term.

There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

So he's the one that did this, and it hasn't increased in all the years!

Beginning in 1984, includes up to one-half of Social Security benefits as taxable income for taxpayers whose adjusted gross income, combined with half their benefits and any tax-exempt interest they may have exceeds $25,000 for a single taxpayer and $32,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly. Benefits received by married taxpayers filing separately are taxable without regard to other income. Appropriates amounts equal to estimated tax liability to the Social Security trust funds.
Social Security history (ssa.gov)

The rich should pay more, as they get higher amounts in their SS checks.

they get more because they paid in more.

why is it you people want to ignore the truth about Reagan?

He said government is the problem but he oversaw one of the largest government expansions in history.

That's cuz he built up the military and cause the USSR to collapse. Money well spent, unless you are a Commie loving Dimwinger.

The USSR did not collapse because of Reagan's military spending.

the USSR did not ramp up their military spending because of Reagan in fact their military spending remained flat

The USSR economy collapsed under its own weight as most command control economies do.

Reagan and the Russians - 94.02

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

The Soviet Union's defense spending did not rise or fall in response to American military expenditures. Revised estimates by the Central Intelligence Agency indicate that Soviet expenditures on defense remained more or less constant throughout the 1980s. Neither the military buildup under Jimmy Carter and Reagan nor SDI had any real impact on gross spending levels in the USSR. At most SDI shifted the marginal allocation of defense rubles as some funds were allotted for developing countermeasures to ballistic defense.


The Soviet economy was in trouble in the 70's because of Brezhnev's military spending and it never recovered from that.

The Soviet economy was in trouble cause communism doesn’t work well.

 

[Blues Man]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

he inherited the tech bubble that burst right after he was elected. Clinton got lucky that it didn't happen on his watch.

But one thing that Bush did inherit from Clinton that really mattered wa the legislation that Clinton signed that allowed too big to fail to happen.

it was Clinton's deregulation of banks, insurance companies and investment firms that was responsible for that meltdown

 

[Blues Man]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Tramp cared,
Trump touts tax law he previously called a disaster - YouTube

Min 120 on

no one else did

Republicans loved Reagan, he cut taxes twice and he raised the lowest bracket.

Remember tramp wanted them to invest in real estate, and he was a Democrat for a long time.

Anything that he felt it was good for him. Now he wants tax cuts, but he didn't back in the 80's.

Reagan passed the largest peace time tax hike in history which basically clawed back all the money from the income tax cuts.

Trump wasn't complaining about the tax cuts he was complaining about the tax increases Reagan signed into law after the first rounds of cuts

No he didn't, he twice cut taxes. Reagan only raised the lowest bracket in 1986.

Tramp was bitching about people playing the market instead of investing in real estate.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Economic Recovery Act of 1981, also known as the Reagan tax cuts, was the biggest reduction in U.S. taxes of the past 70 years, possibly even the biggest ever. 1 That much is reasonably well-known.



What is less well-known is that these cuts were then followed by a series of tax increases that, if you add them all together, were almost as big as or even bigger than the 1981 cuts, depending on the measure you use.

Taxes: What people forget about Reagan

Ronald Reagan is the patron saint of lower taxes and smaller government. He cut taxes, yes. But he also raised them several times, in part to reduce high deficits and in part to pave the way for true tax reform.

money.cnn.com

So, despite his public opposition to higher taxes, Reagan ended up signing off on several measures intended to raise more revenue.

"Reagan was certainly a tax cutter legislatively, emotionally and ideologically. But for a variety of political reasons, it was hard for him to ignore the cost of his tax cuts," said tax historian Joseph Thorndike.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Sounds awful!!

What were the rates before Reagan increased them? What were the rates after?

from the same link

The bills didn't raise more revenue by hiking individual income tax rates though. Instead they did it largely through making it tougher to evade taxes, and through "base broadening" -- that is, reducing various federal tax breaks and closing tax loopholes.

For instance, more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.

"What people forget about Ronald Reagan was that he very much converted to base broadening as a means of reducing deficits and as a means of tax reform," said Eugene Steuerle, an Institute Fellow at the Urban Institute who had helped lay the groundwork for tax reform in 1986 and served as a deputy assistant Treasury secretary during Reagan's second term.

There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

So he's the one that did this, and it hasn't increased in all the years!

Beginning in 1984, includes up to one-half of Social Security benefits as taxable income for taxpayers whose adjusted gross income, combined with half their benefits and any tax-exempt interest they may have exceeds $25,000 for a single taxpayer and $32,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly. Benefits received by married taxpayers filing separately are taxable without regard to other income. Appropriates amounts equal to estimated tax liability to the Social Security trust funds.
Social Security history (ssa.gov)

The rich should pay more, as they get higher amounts in their SS checks.

they get more because they paid in more.

why is it you people want to ignore the truth about Reagan?

He said government is the problem but he oversaw one of the largest government expansions in history.

That's cuz he built up the military and cause the USSR to collapse. Money well spent, unless you are a Commie loving Dimwinger.

The USSR did not collapse because of Reagan's military spending.

the USSR did not ramp up their military spending because of Reagan in fact their military spending remained flat

The USSR economy collapsed under its own weight as most command control economies do.

Reagan and the Russians - 94.02

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

The Soviet Union's defense spending did not rise or fall in response to American military expenditures. Revised estimates by the Central Intelligence Agency indicate that Soviet expenditures on defense remained more or less constant throughout the 1980s. Neither the military buildup under Jimmy Carter and Reagan nor SDI had any real impact on gross spending levels in the USSR. At most SDI shifted the marginal allocation of defense rubles as some funds were allotted for developing countermeasures to ballistic defense.


The Soviet economy was in trouble in the 70's because of Brezhnev's military spending and it never recovered from that.

The Soviet economy was in trouble cause communism doesn’t work well.

not just that.

 

[Brain357]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

 

[Brain357]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Tramp cared,
Trump touts tax law he previously called a disaster - YouTube

Min 120 on

no one else did

Republicans loved Reagan, he cut taxes twice and he raised the lowest bracket.

Remember tramp wanted them to invest in real estate, and he was a Democrat for a long time.

Anything that he felt it was good for him. Now he wants tax cuts, but he didn't back in the 80's.

Reagan passed the largest peace time tax hike in history which basically clawed back all the money from the income tax cuts.

Trump wasn't complaining about the tax cuts he was complaining about the tax increases Reagan signed into law after the first rounds of cuts

No he didn't, he twice cut taxes. Reagan only raised the lowest bracket in 1986.

Tramp was bitching about people playing the market instead of investing in real estate.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Economic Recovery Act of 1981, also known as the Reagan tax cuts, was the biggest reduction in U.S. taxes of the past 70 years, possibly even the biggest ever. 1 That much is reasonably well-known.



What is less well-known is that these cuts were then followed by a series of tax increases that, if you add them all together, were almost as big as or even bigger than the 1981 cuts, depending on the measure you use.

Taxes: What people forget about Reagan

Ronald Reagan is the patron saint of lower taxes and smaller government. He cut taxes, yes. But he also raised them several times, in part to reduce high deficits and in part to pave the way for true tax reform.

money.cnn.com

So, despite his public opposition to higher taxes, Reagan ended up signing off on several measures intended to raise more revenue.

"Reagan was certainly a tax cutter legislatively, emotionally and ideologically. But for a variety of political reasons, it was hard for him to ignore the cost of his tax cuts," said tax historian Joseph Thorndike.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Sounds awful!!

What were the rates before Reagan increased them? What were the rates after?

from the same link

The bills didn't raise more revenue by hiking individual income tax rates though. Instead they did it largely through making it tougher to evade taxes, and through "base broadening" -- that is, reducing various federal tax breaks and closing tax loopholes.

For instance, more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.

"What people forget about Ronald Reagan was that he very much converted to base broadening as a means of reducing deficits and as a means of tax reform," said Eugene Steuerle, an Institute Fellow at the Urban Institute who had helped lay the groundwork for tax reform in 1986 and served as a deputy assistant Treasury secretary during Reagan's second term.

There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

So he's the one that did this, and it hasn't increased in all the years!

Beginning in 1984, includes up to one-half of Social Security benefits as taxable income for taxpayers whose adjusted gross income, combined with half their benefits and any tax-exempt interest they may have exceeds $25,000 for a single taxpayer and $32,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly. Benefits received by married taxpayers filing separately are taxable without regard to other income. Appropriates amounts equal to estimated tax liability to the Social Security trust funds.
Social Security history (ssa.gov)

The rich should pay more, as they get higher amounts in their SS checks.

they get more because they paid in more.

why is it you people want to ignore the truth about Reagan?

He said government is the problem but he oversaw one of the largest government expansions in history.

That's cuz he built up the military and cause the USSR to collapse. Money well spent, unless you are a Commie loving Dimwinger.

The USSR did not collapse because of Reagan's military spending.

the USSR did not ramp up their military spending because of Reagan in fact their military spending remained flat

The USSR economy collapsed under its own weight as most command control economies do.

Reagan and the Russians - 94.02

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

The Soviet Union's defense spending did not rise or fall in response to American military expenditures. Revised estimates by the Central Intelligence Agency indicate that Soviet expenditures on defense remained more or less constant throughout the 1980s. Neither the military buildup under Jimmy Carter and Reagan nor SDI had any real impact on gross spending levels in the USSR. At most SDI shifted the marginal allocation of defense rubles as some funds were allotted for developing countermeasures to ballistic defense.


The Soviet economy was in trouble in the 70's because of Brezhnev's military spending and it never recovered from that.

The Soviet economy was in trouble cause communism doesn’t work well.

not just that.

It was doomed to fail. Only reason China exists is because they grabbed our capitalism.

 

[Nostra]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

More lies. Barry's trillion dollar deficits came down after Reps took control of Congress.

You are stupid, and a blatant liar. Not good combinaiton, Brainfart.

Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Ouch.

We all know why you want to throw out the majority of Barry's clusterfuck 8 years..................HE SUCKED.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Inherited a recession from another loser repub president.

Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Ouch.

We all know why you want to throw out the majority of Barry's clusterfuck 8 years..................HE SUCKED.

You lose again, Brainfart.

And Bush warned of the housing bubble as far back as 2001, but Dimwingers like Bawney Fwank didn't listen.

You lose again, Brainfart.

 

[Blues Man]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

irrelevant

the debt grew

as I said the largest debt increases by percentage have mostly been under democrat administrations

 

[Brain357]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

More lies. Barry's trillion dollar deficits came down after Reps took control of Congress.

You are stupid, and a blatant liar. Not good combinaiton, Brainfart.

Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Ouch.

We all know why you want to throw out the majority of Barry's clusterfuck 8 years..................HE SUCKED.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Inherited a recession from another loser repub president.

Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Ouch.

We all know why you want to throw out the majority of Barry's clusterfuck 8 years..................HE SUCKED.

You lose again, Brainfart.

And Bush warned of the housing bubble as far back as 2001, but Dimwingers like Bawney Fwank didn't listen.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Inherited a republican created disaster.

 

[Nostra]

Now that we are closing out another failed republican president it seems like a good time to bring up debt since repubs will no doubt put there fiscally responsible hats back on for us to laugh at. It's clear big debt started with Reagan, the guy tripled the debt. We almost had it under control under Clinton, then Bush messed that up completely. Then Obama inherited the Bush mess and spent a lot, but deficits generally came down after the mess was fixed. Now Trump inherited a strong economy and still increased debt every single year. Last year pre pandemic he managed a trillion dollar deficit during a strong economy, this year he will set a new record by a lot.

Over and over and over republicans support the same policy of cut taxes, increase military spending, and drastically increase debt. And that is what has happened every time they have done it. Reagan did it, Bush did it, and now Trump did it. And repubs stupidly believe the square peg is going to fit the round hole this time.... or are they all that stupid? Many certainly are, but others clearly love the freebies. Heck better than a freebie, trumpers got their military spending and a tax cut! Government is great!

So for the last 40 years we have gotten more and more government and thanks to repubs it costs tax payers less and less. That is a formula for increasing government if I have ever seen one. So laugh whenever a repub claims to be for fiscal responsibility, their policy has clearly lead the way for more and more debt.

History and politics not strong with you is it cum breath?

And yet you can’t deny any of the facts.

Deny what you don't know the facts.

Reagan had to compromise with tippy

Newt is the one who balanced the budget for a few

Fact is that repubs fuel increased spending with tax cuts.

so democrats take no responsibility for their increased spending they just blame republicans for cutting taxes.

got it.

Doesn't it seem to be the rationale that if everyone is to blame then no one is at fault?

Tax payers don’t care about spending because it goes on the credit card and they get tax cuts.

now you're finally getting it

No one cares about the debt.

And it ain't gonna matter before I'm dead so i don't care either

I get it, it’s the point of the OP . Nobody will care till we increase taxes, cuts are making people care less and less.

presidents have increased taxes and still no one cared.

Reagan passed the single largest peacetime tax hike in history and no one cared that he grew the debt

Clinton raised taxes and no one cared that he raised the debt

Bush #1 raised taxes and no one cared that he increased the debt

how can you keep saying that people will care when taxes are raised when they have shown just the opposite?

Tramp cared,
Trump touts tax law he previously called a disaster - YouTube

Min 120 on

no one else did

Republicans loved Reagan, he cut taxes twice and he raised the lowest bracket.

Remember tramp wanted them to invest in real estate, and he was a Democrat for a long time.

Anything that he felt it was good for him. Now he wants tax cuts, but he didn't back in the 80's.

Reagan passed the largest peace time tax hike in history which basically clawed back all the money from the income tax cuts.

Trump wasn't complaining about the tax cuts he was complaining about the tax increases Reagan signed into law after the first rounds of cuts

No he didn't, he twice cut taxes. Reagan only raised the lowest bracket in 1986.

Tramp was bitching about people playing the market instead of investing in real estate.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Economic Recovery Act of 1981, also known as the Reagan tax cuts, was the biggest reduction in U.S. taxes of the past 70 years, possibly even the biggest ever. 1 That much is reasonably well-known.



What is less well-known is that these cuts were then followed by a series of tax increases that, if you add them all together, were almost as big as or even bigger than the 1981 cuts, depending on the measure you use.

Taxes: What people forget about Reagan

Ronald Reagan is the patron saint of lower taxes and smaller government. He cut taxes, yes. But he also raised them several times, in part to reduce high deficits and in part to pave the way for true tax reform.

money.cnn.com

So, despite his public opposition to higher taxes, Reagan ended up signing off on several measures intended to raise more revenue.

"Reagan was certainly a tax cutter legislatively, emotionally and ideologically. But for a variety of political reasons, it was hard for him to ignore the cost of his tax cuts," said tax historian Joseph Thorndike.

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,

Sounds awful!!

What were the rates before Reagan increased them? What were the rates after?

from the same link

The bills didn't raise more revenue by hiking individual income tax rates though. Instead they did it largely through making it tougher to evade taxes, and through "base broadening" -- that is, reducing various federal tax breaks and closing tax loopholes.

For instance, more asset sales became taxable and tax-advantaged contributions and benefits under pension plans were further limited.

"What people forget about Ronald Reagan was that he very much converted to base broadening as a means of reducing deficits and as a means of tax reform," said Eugene Steuerle, an Institute Fellow at the Urban Institute who had helped lay the groundwork for tax reform in 1986 and served as a deputy assistant Treasury secretary during Reagan's second term.

There were other notable tax increases under Reagan.

In 1983, for example, he signed off on Social Security reform legislation that, among other things, accelerated an increase in the payroll tax rate, required that higher-income beneficiaries pay income tax on part of their benefits, and required the self-employed to pay the full payroll tax rate, rather than just the portion normally paid by employees.

The tax reform of 1986, meanwhile, wasn't designed to increase federal tax revenue. But that didn't mean that no one's taxes went up. Because the reform bill eliminated or reduced many tax breaks and shelters, high-income tax filers who previously paid little ended up with bigger tax bills.

So he's the one that did this, and it hasn't increased in all the years!

Beginning in 1984, includes up to one-half of Social Security benefits as taxable income for taxpayers whose adjusted gross income, combined with half their benefits and any tax-exempt interest they may have exceeds $25,000 for a single taxpayer and $32,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly. Benefits received by married taxpayers filing separately are taxable without regard to other income. Appropriates amounts equal to estimated tax liability to the Social Security trust funds.
Social Security history (ssa.gov)

The rich should pay more, as they get higher amounts in their SS checks.

they get more because they paid in more.

why is it you people want to ignore the truth about Reagan?

He said government is the problem but he oversaw one of the largest government expansions in history.

That's cuz he built up the military and cause the USSR to collapse. Money well spent, unless you are a Commie loving Dimwinger.

The USSR did not collapse because of Reagan's military spending.

the USSR did not ramp up their military spending because of Reagan in fact their military spending remained flat

The USSR economy collapsed under its own weight as most command control economies do.

Reagan and the Russians - 94.02

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

The Soviet Union's defense spending did not rise or fall in response to American military expenditures. Revised estimates by the Central Intelligence Agency indicate that Soviet expenditures on defense remained more or less constant throughout the 1980s. Neither the military buildup under Jimmy Carter and Reagan nor SDI had any real impact on gross spending levels in the USSR. At most SDI shifted the marginal allocation of defense rubles as some funds were allotted for developing countermeasures to ballistic defense.


The Soviet economy was in trouble in the 70's because of Brezhnev's military spending and it never recovered from that.

The Soviet economy was in trouble cause communism doesn’t work well.

And yet Dimwingers are trying to push it on America.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

The Internet Bubble was cool!!!

 

[Nostra]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

More lies. Barry's trillion dollar deficits came down after Reps took control of Congress.

You are stupid, and a blatant liar. Not good combinaiton, Brainfart.

Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Ouch.

We all know why you want to throw out the majority of Barry's clusterfuck 8 years..................HE SUCKED.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Inherited a recession from another loser repub president.

Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Ouch.

We all know why you want to throw out the majority of Barry's clusterfuck 8 years..................HE SUCKED.

You lose again, Brainfart.

And Bush warned of the housing bubble as far back as 2001, but Dimwingers like Bawney Fwank didn't listen.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Inherited a republican created disaster.

I post a 4 minute video proving you wrong...........you respond in less than 1 minute.

You clearly aren't interested in facts, Brainfart.

You lose again.

 

[Brain357]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

irrelevant

the debt grew

as I said the largest debt increases by percentage have mostly been under democrat administrations

Reagan tripled the debt. Deficits decreased during Clinton and Obama. They increased under trump and Bush. You don’t seem the dumb, are you just dishonest?

 

[Nostra]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

irrelevant

the debt grew

as I said the largest debt increases by percentage have mostly been under democrat administrations

Reagan tripled the debt. Deficits decreased during Clinton and Obama. They increased under trump and Bush. You don’t seem the dumb, are you just dishonest?

Reagan added $1.4 Trillion to the debt. Barry added more than that in a single year.

You lose again, Brainfart.

 

[Brain357]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

irrelevant

the debt grew

as I said the largest debt increases by percentage have mostly been under democrat administrations

Reagan tripled the debt. Deficits decreased during Clinton and Obama. They increased under trump and Bush. You don’t seem the dumb, are you just dishonest?

Reagan added $1.4 Trillion to the debt. Barry added more than that in a single year.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Yeah Reagan was quite a long time ago. Bravo.

 

[Nostra]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

irrelevant

the debt grew

as I said the largest debt increases by percentage have mostly been under democrat administrations

Reagan tripled the debt. Deficits decreased during Clinton and Obama. They increased under trump and Bush. You don’t seem the dumb, are you just dishonest?

Reagan added $1.4 Trillion to the debt. Barry added more than that in a single year.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Yeah Reagan was quite a long time ago. Bravo.

Why are you bringing him up then, Brainfart?

 

[Redfish]

The funny (if predictable) thing is that I'm ALREADY seeing the Trumpsters complain about "Biden's spending".

This, after Trump made Keynes look like Ron freakin' Paul and took credit for the actions of the Fed.

They're not to be taken seriously.

the national debt when obozo took over---------11 trillion, the national debt when ovozo left-------------20 trillion. are you fricken crazy?

 

[Brain357]

The last time this nation was debt free was in 1835 under Andrew Jackson. Since then both parties have run it up claiming one is worse than the other is like saying it’s better to drown in water that is 475 feet deep instead of water 500 feet deep.

Could it have said it better myself.

But only one party has been cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Nobody is listens to your bullshit,we are all laughing at your pathetic lies.

Republicans love debt. Just put it on the credit card.

Spending originates in the House, Dummy.

Dimwingers have controlled the House 55 out of the last 65 years, Brainfart.

You lose again.

Yes and the giant increases came when repubs were in full control. Irresponsible tax cuts and huge military spending increase. Are you dishonest or really stupid?

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years.

Comments?

He inherited a disaster from Bush. After disaster was fixed deficits declined. Compare the last 3 years of Obama to the first 3 of Trump. Bad and worse.

Bush inherited a dot-com disaster from Clinton. Y'all let Bush use that excuse ?

Bush inherited a balanced budget and gave it away with tax cuts and military spending.

Is that what you call the dot-com bust?

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bush was bad. Very bad. Trump even ran on how bad Bush was.

Oh yea I know. Bush man bad, orange man bad.

Anyway, you said Clinton left a surplus and/or balanced budget. I asked you to prove it. So far you've done nothing.

You have google and probably remember Bush spending away the surplus he inherited. I can only answer so many stupid
questions. Republicans are either claiming newt balanced the budget or denying it. The stupidity gets tiring.

You make the claim you back it up. When I google it it shows a deficit every year, meaning you're wrong.

Did the deficit get bigger or smaller each year?

irrelevant

the debt grew

as I said the largest debt increases by percentage have mostly been under democrat administrations

Reagan tripled the debt. Deficits decreased during Clinton and Obama. They increased under trump and Bush. You don’t seem the dumb, are you just dishonest?

Reagan added $1.4 Trillion to the debt. Barry added more than that in a single year.

You lose again, Brainfart.

Yeah Reagan was quite a long time ago. Bravo.

Why are you bringing him up then, Brainfart?

Tripled the debt and started our debt problems.