Republicans have already lost this election

[Toro]

I have a bathing suit in there, Come on guys. The coast is warmer than Lake Ontario.

The windchill took it down to -15C this weekend I'd guess.

 

[Stephanie]

ok you say so. can you now give us a break from all your boo hooing threads and break your crystal ball while you're at it. thanks

 

[imawhosure]

ok you say so. can you now give us a break from all your boo hooing threads and break your crystal ball while you're at it. thanks

This whole thread is bogus, period. I am not even going to repeat again what I posted about the internals, or Florida. Suffice it to say that this OP author has absolutely no idea what he/she is saying, and gives comfort to Democrats in the know of the internals, that realize that for the last 6 weeks or so, they are not looking good and are trying everything they can to right the ship.

 

[Stephanie]

ok you say so. can you now give us a break from all your boo hooing threads and break your crystal ball while you're at it. thanks

This whole thread is bogus, period. I am not even going to repeat again what I posted about the internals, or Florida. Suffice it to say that this OP author has absolutely no idea what he/she is saying, and gives comfort to Democrats in the know of the internals, that realize that for the last 6 weeks or so, they are not looking good and are trying everything they can to right the ship.

they claim to be Republican. but I've yet to see them post one good thing about any of them. it's always threads like this.

 

[Iceweasel]

There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican par

You know the left wing is worried when they start doing victory laps before an election. Look on your side of the isle, y'all are in deep shit.

 

[konradv]

There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican par

You know the left wing is worried when they start doing victory laps before an election. Look on your side of the isle, y'all are in deep shit.

What do you call what Trump's doing. He thinks he's "bullet-proof".

 

[konradv]

So Hillary's numbers are dwindling while a septagenerian socialist gathers momentum against her. Bloomberg is thinking of a third party run, that will decimate Hillary's numbers even more. And somehow the GOP is in trouble? Nope, don't think so.

That's the problem. In '48 Republicans thought Truman was in trouble because he had Dems running against him from the right and left. Let people think Hillary's wounded. She's still the leader by most metrics.

 

[candycorn]

There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...der-gap-2012-vote-largest-gallup-history.aspx
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.

The last thing trump supporters ever talk about is electoral math. It doesn't add up.
The last thing trump supporters ever talk about is his negatives. The are not "terrific"
The last thing trump supporters ever talk about is that most of the nation thinks he is wrong on nearly every issue or at least his remedies are far worse than the disease itself.

Nice try but its falling on deaf ears.

 

[Stephanie]

There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican par

You know the left wing is worried when they start doing victory laps before an election. Look on your side of the isle, y'all are in deep shit.

after all they lost these years under Obama, many house and senate seats, they lost first, the House and then Senate after having both at one time. Obama was stopped in the commie tracks after that party push on us against our will that thing called, ObamaNOCare.

it's sad to see them strut around like they are still the ONES all the people want and they have no worries, even with some Corrupted old lady running for President and a nobody nothing more but a Career Politician who like Socialism/communism. it's like Duh what the hell kind of choices is that? they don't know the word: humble and quit being such snobs

 

[imawhosure]

ok you say so. can you now give us a break from all your boo hooing threads and break your crystal ball while you're at it. thanks

This whole thread is bogus, period. I am not even going to repeat again what I posted about the internals, or Florida. Suffice it to say that this OP author has absolutely no idea what he/she is saying, and gives comfort to Democrats in the know of the internals, that realize that for the last 6 weeks or so, they are not looking good and are trying everything they can to right the ship.

they claim to be Republican. but I've yet to see them post one good thing about any of them. it's always threads like this.

When I see something like this thread Steph, I just shake my head in disbelief. In fact, most of the threads on here, I do exactly the same thing.

When are people going to understand that it may very well be true that Trump isn't the strongest candidate to put up, even as people try and knock him out of the box; but that the odds are 50-50 that Hillary, NOR Sanders are going to be the Democratic nominee, lol.

I know, I know, you just read that and scratched your head!

CONSIDER----> Almost every position BOTH of them take are opposite of what the polls say the vast majority of Americans want. I believe the Democrats thought that the country had morphed, but the polls say overwhelmingly that it hasn't. Look at the polls on issues, and not who will vote for whom.

The Democrats have an easy out with Mrs Clinton if the issues continue to get in the way.......health, or investigation, where she steps down. If this happens, watch how the savior who comes to the rescue stands differently on some of the issues. They will be "Trump lite," with better political chops than he; probably Warren or Biden.

Opinions on people change, but unless something significant happens, the issues remain the same, and people keep those positions. Both party's know this, which is why the internals show Hillary in so much trouble. (and Bernie) When you have the issues on your side, the only thing you have to do is make your candidate 3/4 as like able as your opponent, and you win! Why do you think every thread on here by Democratic operatives is about making Trump the most evil person in America? They need to improve Hillary's like ability factor (or Trumps yuck factor if he is in fact the GOP nominee)tremendously to try and level the playing field, and make this race about personalities, and not issues.

Now look Steph, demographics aside----------> in 2008 the Democrats had the issues on their side, and the likability factor. What happened? In 2012, the Democrats had lost the issues, but still had the like ability factor by a wide margin, and what happened? (thanks to them constantly painting Romney as they did, look at what the exit polls said)

In 2016, the GOP has the issues by a very wide margin, and if it was Hilly and Trump, it is a toss up as the populace gets to know them. Whith the tried and true political formula I have given you with some (possibly many) Democratic, blue collar worker crossover, and the PISSED people re=registering to vote, who wins!

See Steph, the Dems can talk all they want, but they are talking from an emotional point of view, not an analytical point of view. Put Carson or Kasich on the ticket as VP, and you may as well have enough confidence today to order the champagne, unless the Dems throw Hillary overboard; and like I said, these Dem posters on here won't admit it, but it is as likely, as it is unlikely, and that is the truth!

 

[Wildman]

My comments are the truth.

Steve.., we have a problem! (as in: Houston.., we have a problem!)
libertards would not recognize the truth if it smacked them across the face and gave them a bloody nose!!

 

[amrchaos]

I said this before

Historically, this is a Republican year.

However, if both parties run their craziest candidates, anything goes this year.


Aside
1.OK, I don't know who is nuttier, Cruz or Trump, but as long as Huckabee, Santorum and Carson are in the race, I can't call those two the craziest, now can I?
2. Bernie Sanders is crazier than Clinton
3.Cruz has the Evangelical vote. Trump and Cruz are splitting the tea party vote.
4.No one thinks Trump is a conservative--not even his supporters. No one is voting for Trump because of his "conservative credentials".

 

[Wildman]

How do the independent/undecideds feel?

i am an Independent Conservative, i also do NOT "feel", i THINK and BELIEVE, and i BELIEVE at this point in time there is NOT one demorat honest and trustworthy enough to even be a visitor to the WH or the Capitol building!!

 

[Moonglow]

if the leading GOP candidate can't sway the minorities and swing voters, he's got no chance..He better start pouring on the sugar...

 

[Iceweasel]

There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican par

You know the left wing is worried when they start doing victory laps before an election. Look on your side of the isle, y'all are in deep shit.

What do you call what Trump's doing. He thinks he's "bullet-proof".

I don't know, unlike some of you my life doesn't revolve around Donald Trump, last I heard he hasn't won the nomination.

 

[Conservative65]

if the leading GOP candidate can't sway the minorities and swing voters, he's got no chance..He better start pouring on the sugar...

You mean pandering like the Democrats did with all sorts of things?

 

[Stephanie]

ok you say so. can you now give us a break from all your boo hooing threads and break your crystal ball while you're at it. thanks

This whole thread is bogus, period. I am not even going to repeat again what I posted about the internals, or Florida. Suffice it to say that this OP author has absolutely no idea what he/she is saying, and gives comfort to Democrats in the know of the internals, that realize that for the last 6 weeks or so, they are not looking good and are trying everything they can to right the ship.

they claim to be Republican. but I've yet to see them post one good thing about any of them. it's always threads like this.

When I see something like this thread Steph, I just shake my head in disbelief. In fact, most of the threads on here, I do exactly the same thing.

When are people going to understand that it may very well be true that Trump isn't the strongest candidate to put up, even as people try and knock him out of the box; but that the odds are 50-50 that Hillary, NOR Sanders are going to be the Democratic nominee, lol.

I know, I know, you just read that and scratched your head!

CONSIDER----> Almost every position BOTH of them take are opposite of what the polls say the vast majority of Americans want. I believe the Democrats thought that the country had morphed, but the polls say overwhelmingly that it hasn't. Look at the polls on issues, and not who will vote for whom.

The Democrats have an easy out with Mrs Clinton if the issues continue to get in the way.......health, or investigation, where she steps down. If this happens, watch how the savior who comes to the rescue stands differently on some of the issues. They will be "Trump lite," with better political chops than he; probably Warren or Biden.

Opinions on people change, but unless something significant happens, the issues remain the same, and people keep those positions. Both party's know this, which is why the internals show Hillary in so much trouble. (and Bernie) When you have the issues on your side, the only thing you have to do is make your candidate 3/4 as like able as your opponent, and you win! Why do you think every thread on here by Democratic operatives is about making Trump the most evil person in America? They need to improve Hillary's like ability factor (or Trumps yuck factor if he is in fact the GOP nominee)tremendously to try and level the playing field, and make this race about personalities, and not issues.

Now look Steph, demographics aside----------> in 2008 the Democrats had the issues on their side, and the likability factor. What happened? In 2012, the Democrats had lost the issues, but still had the like ability factor by a wide margin, and what happened? (thanks to them constantly painting Romney as they did, look at what the exit polls said)

In 2016, the GOP has the issues by a very wide margin, and if it was Hilly and Trump, it is a toss up as the populace gets to know them. Whith the tried and true political formula I have given you with some (possibly many) Democratic, blue collar worker crossover, and the PISSED people re=registering to vote, who wins!

See Steph, the Dems can talk all they want, but they are talking from an emotional point of view, not an analytical point of view. Put Carson or Kasich on the ticket as VP, and you may as well have enough confidence today to order the champagne, unless the Dems throw Hillary overboard; and like I said, these Dem posters on here won't admit it, but it is as likely, as it is unlikely, and that is the truth!

I hear what you're saying. there something called being confident when it's warranted. but these lib/dem voters who is supporting the Democrat party, are really in deep trouble and that they refuse to see it, make them either stupid or can't face reality. and it also make them insufferable human beings.

 

[imawhosure]

ok you say so. can you now give us a break from all your boo hooing threads and break your crystal ball while you're at it. thanks

This whole thread is bogus, period. I am not even going to repeat again what I posted about the internals, or Florida. Suffice it to say that this OP author has absolutely no idea what he/she is saying, and gives comfort to Democrats in the know of the internals, that realize that for the last 6 weeks or so, they are not looking good and are trying everything they can to right the ship.

they claim to be Republican. but I've yet to see them post one good thing about any of them. it's always threads like this.

When I see something like this thread Steph, I just shake my head in disbelief. In fact, most of the threads on here, I do exactly the same thing.

When are people going to understand that it may very well be true that Trump isn't the strongest candidate to put up, even as people try and knock him out of the box; but that the odds are 50-50 that Hillary, NOR Sanders are going to be the Democratic nominee, lol.

I know, I know, you just read that and scratched your head!

CONSIDER----> Almost every position BOTH of them take are opposite of what the polls say the vast majority of Americans want. I believe the Democrats thought that the country had morphed, but the polls say overwhelmingly that it hasn't. Look at the polls on issues, and not who will vote for whom.

The Democrats have an easy out with Mrs Clinton if the issues continue to get in the way.......health, or investigation, where she steps down. If this happens, watch how the savior who comes to the rescue stands differently on some of the issues. They will be "Trump lite," with better political chops than he; probably Warren or Biden.

Opinions on people change, but unless something significant happens, the issues remain the same, and people keep those positions. Both party's know this, which is why the internals show Hillary in so much trouble. (and Bernie) When you have the issues on your side, the only thing you have to do is make your candidate 3/4 as like able as your opponent, and you win! Why do you think every thread on here by Democratic operatives is about making Trump the most evil person in America? They need to improve Hillary's like ability factor (or Trumps yuck factor if he is in fact the GOP nominee)tremendously to try and level the playing field, and make this race about personalities, and not issues.

Now look Steph, demographics aside----------> in 2008 the Democrats had the issues on their side, and the likability factor. What happened? In 2012, the Democrats had lost the issues, but still had the like ability factor by a wide margin, and what happened? (thanks to them constantly painting Romney as they did, look at what the exit polls said)

In 2016, the GOP has the issues by a very wide margin, and if it was Hilly and Trump, it is a toss up as the populace gets to know them. Whith the tried and true political formula I have given you with some (possibly many) Democratic, blue collar worker crossover, and the PISSED people re=registering to vote, who wins!

See Steph, the Dems can talk all they want, but they are talking from an emotional point of view, not an analytical point of view. Put Carson or Kasich on the ticket as VP, and you may as well have enough confidence today to order the champagne, unless the Dems throw Hillary overboard; and like I said, these Dem posters on here won't admit it, but it is as likely, as it is unlikely, and that is the truth!

I hear what you're saying. there something called being confident when it's warranted. but these lib/dem voters who is supporting the Democrat party, are really in deep trouble and that they refuse to see it, make them either stupid or can't face reality. and it also make them insufferable human beings.

I just want to insure it is clear that the issues have been on our side since 2012. Like him, or despise him, (and I despise the guy) it was why Carl Rove was so shocked and in disbelief. The Democrats painted Romney something, even they admit today, he was not. And, he was weak and wanted to be the nice candidate and not attack Obama after the 1st debate.

This why every Democratic poster on here, attacks who/whom ever is ahead in the polls for the GOP, and it is with more vitriol than ever. Why? Because it worked in 12, and my Democratic bean counter friends couldn't believe it either, lol.

And so, if it worked last time, why not try it again, since virtually the same dynamic exists today, "wrong side of issues, so bury the GOP leaders in massive amounts of dirt!" Difference is, it is Hilly and not Obama. That is the problem they have, which is why Hillary really isn't fighting for the nomination; oh no Democrats, she isn't! What she is really fighting for, is for the DNC not to ask her to step away so they can put in, someone more "like able" so they can use the whole contrast trick again.

 

[konradv]

You know the left wing is worried when they start doing victory laps before an election. Look on your side of the isle, y'all are in deep shit.

What do you call what Trump's doing. He thinks he's "bullet-proof".

I don't know, unlike some of you my life doesn't revolve around Donald Trump, last I heard he hasn't won the nomination.

No one has, but that hasn't stopped you from commenting on the "left's" actions. Bernie hasn't won the nomination, either.

 

[Freewill]

It is good there is a tea party for the left to make the enemy. Since making Jews the enemy is so 1940.