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Blaming the victim - a classic leftwing tactic.Warnings are more dangerous than violence?Some food for thought here.
Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence
Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.
In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.
This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.
But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.
The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”
What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.
These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.
Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence
Come on, princess. I know you’re smart enough to see through that nonsense.
Btw... I haven’t forgotten about compiling a list of my favorite songs.
No matter what he does you unhinged ass wipes lose your minds. Why can’t you people control yourselves and act like adults?Why isnt your president trying to calm things down? Why is he deliberately agitating?I’ve had enough of your shit. Don’t come crying to me when you left wing assholes start getting the beat down you’ve been asking for. We’ve been telling you dumb asses to calm down and stop acting like pricks or else. Now it’s time you learn what the hell or else meant. You asked for it, he’ll you begged for it.Fuck you. You haven't seen violence dumb ass. Once we bring it you're fucked. Keep pushing you assholes. You shall see.Is this a left wing joke? We are the violent one's now? Are you fucking serious? Two years of you assholes shooting up baseball fields, attacking people eating dinner and accosting them in airports or elevators and basically being obnoxious masked fucking pussies burning shit down is now us being violent?
Fuck you. You haven't seen violence dumb ass. Once we bring it you're fucked. Keep pushing you assholes. You shall see.
LOL Yup. You're not violent. You're not angry. Not at all.
Not necessarily, but it's a plausible assumption.Right wing kooks like to blame leftards for everything. Country western is right-leaning so the Vegas shooter was probably a politically motivated leftie? Kook.If no one knows his motive which you admit, then deliberately labeling it leftwing is a lie.Umh...why do you guys lie? The Vegas killer was not a leftist, he was a gun nut. No motive established. If you are going to lie you arent worth the time.While I appreciate your concerns for undue rhetoric, many warnings are based and grounded in hard reality. For the time being, I'll still consider by far Left-Wing Violence as being the greater danger by a mile.
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If you don't know his motive, then how do you know I'm wrong?
And lying is a CONSCIOUS, deliberate action; if no one knows his motive, then I might be wrong, but that doesn't mean I'm lying.
Let's put it this way to you: the guy singled out a Country-Western concert to shoot hundreds of people. Now Country-Western music is most notoriously a music genre associated with the South and Midwest, regions of the highest population of generally the most conservative people. So take from that what you like. It's called circumstantial evidence. If you have better evidence that he was a conservative wishing to shoot other conservatives, thought he was shooting liberals or just didn't even care, I'm willing to listen to your evidence, otherwise, shut up and don't call me a liar when the only evidence we have of motive leans in my direction.
You also ignore the fact thst he explored and scoped out several other venues for an attack including a Lalapalooza concert.
The only known FACT is that the guy targeted and shot hundreds of country-western fans who are notoriously right-leaning. He tried to massacre them. Pretty safe bet he know what kind of concert it was. Leftards have a much better established history of this sort of thing than right-wing kooks.
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A well sourced and factually documented post. It's a shame none of the extreme right will actually read the links and offer intelligent rebuttal.
There’s a big difference between being angry and being pushed to the point of getting pissed off. Your left wing buddies caused it maybe you should talk to them about their behavior.Missouri Mike, don't be upset. You have to admit you are very angry and talking a really violent game, aren't you? I just get a big kick out of people who scream "I'M NOT ANGRY!"I’ve had enough of your shit. Don’t come crying to me when you left wing assholes start getting the beat down you’ve been asking for. We’ve been telling you dumb asses to calm down and stop acting like pricks or else. Now it’s time you learn what the hell or else meant. You asked for it, he’ll you begged for it.Fuck you. You haven't seen violence dumb ass. Once we bring it you're fucked. Keep pushing you assholes. You shall see.Is this a left wing joke? We are the violent one's now? Are you fucking serious? Two years of you assholes shooting up baseball fields, attacking people eating dinner and accosting them in airports or elevators and basically being obnoxious masked fucking pussies burning shit down is now us being violent?
Fuck you. You haven't seen violence dumb ass. Once we bring it you're fucked. Keep pushing you assholes. You shall see.
LOL Yup. You're not violent. You're not angry. Not at all.
I checked the ADL document used for the GIGO WaPo piece cited in the OP....It used prison gang attacks and small time individual cases of domestic violence, as "evidence" that right wingers are more dangerous than organized antifa rapid deployment riot goon squads....IOW, you can neither trust them, nor the blatantly dishonest OP.Should we trust the ADL on this like we trust, say, the ACLU? Or the Southern Poverty Law Center? Just straight up unbiased reporting?
Why should we trust them?
Says someone that trusts the federal government
I read the ADL document and promptly shredded it for the crap that it is, and you ignored it.`
A well sourced and factually documented post. It's a shame none of the extreme right will actually read the links and offer intelligent rebuttal.
Says someone that trusts the federal government
Anyone who reads my stuff knows that's not even close, but if you go through life with that paper bag over your head, you "assume" and make yourself out to be the ASS you truly are...
Democrats supportvAntifa?Who is supporting rioting? No one. Rioting and instigating riots are criminal...
Apologies Bear, I neant??????
Childish insults I stated three facts ..
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Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.From your op.
" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."
It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.
Because rioting is a positive attribute?
I've seen a rioter pretty much get his head blown off by a black National Guardsman.
I reckon he aimed to throw a cocktail at the National Guard. He got shut the fuck down.
Just passing by while getting out of town during the MacDuffie riots. In a Monte Carlo, baby.
A Democrat named Bob Graham called out the National Guard for that.
Back when Democrats were Americans. That is no longer the case.
Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.
This is not rocket surgery, my dear.
Times have changed, and I think you may want to reassess your position.
You didn't change.. the party changed.
You're still liberal, however, the Democrat party is about far leftists now. No room for liberal thinking.
Open debate? Not happening if they have their way. Cultural Marxism is their thing now. Shout down the opposition.
Listening to your side and respecting it? Democrats are not doing that. I am, but many partisans are not. Republicans respect personal opinions much moreso than Democrats.
Like Republicans support White Supremacists.
As for Republicans respecting personal opinions...how is that being shown in the responses to this thread?
What does believing in the Bible have anything to do with assuming that you trust the federal government?
Candace Owens was also once a leftist. She’s now one of Trumps biggest supporters.Blaming the victim - a classic leftwing tactic.Warnings are more dangerous than violence?Some food for thought here.
Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence
Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.
In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.
This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.
But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.
The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”
What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.
These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.
Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence
Come on, princess. I know you’re smart enough to see through that nonsense.
Btw... I haven’t forgotten about compiling a list of my favorite songs.
Show me where I defended Antifa.Well that is what they claim. Either way they are not comparable to MS13 which you blow them up to be. If they cant engage peaxefully arrest them. Same with your white nationalists . You NEED Antifa, because antifa justifies your victimhood and rallies your base onto retaliatory violence in the guise of self defense. You need these self created monsters because without them your you would have no excuses.They do not limit themselves to white nationalists.
That you lie for them validates my point.
1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.
2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.
3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.
case in point.
2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.
Show where I have defended white nationalists. I challenge you. HInt: don't waste your time trying to defend this one.
1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.
Don't guess. Read up on it. Rioting, destroying, obstructing traffic, is not Free Speech. YOu are defending violent goons.
3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.
I've commented on their various violent crimes, and suppression of speech, and the support they get from dems.
At no point have I even exaggerated something they have done, or that dems have done for them.
I don't have a guess as to how many of them there are, but they are having a major impact.
And it is completely right and just that people fight back against them.
Some food for thought here.
Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence
Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.
In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.
This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.
But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.
The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”
What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.
These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.
Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence
"White nationalist" is a leftwing euphemism meaning "patriotic American who happens to be white." Don't use the term. You only lend their narrative credibility when you do.Well that is what they claim. Either way they are not comparable to MS13 which you blow them up to be. If they cant engage peaxefully arrest them. Same with your white nationalists . You NEED Antifa, because antifa justifies your victimhood and rallies your base onto retaliatory violence in the guise of self defense. You need these self created monsters because without them your you would have no excuses.They do not limit themselves to white nationalists.
That you lie for them validates my point.
1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.
2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.
3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.
case in point.
2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.
Show where I have defended white nationalists. I challenge you. HInt: don't waste your time trying to defend this one.
1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.
Don't guess. Read up on it. Rioting, destroying, obstructing traffic, is not Free Speech. YOu are defending violent goons.
3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.
I've commented on their various violent crimes, and suppression of speech, and the support they get from dems.
At no point have I even exaggerated something they have done, or that dems have done for them.
I don't have a guess as to how many of them there are, but they are having a major impact.
And it is completely right and just that people fight back against them.
More lying. The Antifa thugs are the ones who came with the intent of causing a clash. They deliberately imposed themselves in the path of the right wing protesters. That's against the law, BTW.Once again, your intellectual dishonesty is laid bare....These are all individual incidents, perpetrated by individuals or a couple of miscreants....Not one of the things you've cited point to any instances of large scale organized hooliganism and rioting, which has been the hallmark of antifa goons squads...And the nonsense that transpired in Charlottesviille wouldn't have happened had the dopey tiki torchers been left to their own little demonstration.Of rightwing violence? Lets look at the past year and a half.So why do you ignore the violence from the right? Why do you ONLY focus on the left?
No one is ignoring anything, I think we're talking about what's currently happening in politics, do you have any examples in the last few months?
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And for those who's memory is selectively short:
Democrats see hypocrisy in GOP attacks on ‘liberal mob’
Similar acts of protest unfolded in 2010, during the rise of the conservative Tea Party movement that sprang up in response to Obama's presidency and the Affordable Care Act.
Democratic town halls all around the country turned rowdy as Tea Party protesters shouted down lawmakers and expressed anger over ObamaCare.
Nearly 1 million conservatives marched to the Capitol building armed with signs and derogatory chants about the "parasite in chief," while a number of Democrats received violent threats and harassment, including a picture of a noose being faxed to Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) and a brick being thrown through the window of the district office of the late Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.).
Obama election spurs race threats, crimes
Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting "Assassinate Obama." Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.
Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postelection glow of racial progress and harmony, highlighting the stubborn racism that remains in America.
From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.
Most of the incidents listed by the right are individual incidents as well...defacing signs etc. You just cant or wont accept responsibility for what your side does.
And those tiki torch protesters? They came with the intent of causing a clash. Both had permits as well, to legally protest. But keep making excuses fir how it is somehow "different" when the right dies it.
The whole point of the term is that it lumps the good people in with the bad. It's a blatant campaign to smear all white conservative Americans as racists."White nationalist" is a leftwing euphemism meaning "patriotic American who happens to be white." Don't use the term. You only lend their narrative credibility when you do.Well that is what they claim. Either way they are not comparable to MS13 which you blow them up to be. If they cant engage peaxefully arrest them. Same with your white nationalists . You NEED Antifa, because antifa justifies your victimhood and rallies your base onto retaliatory violence in the guise of self defense. You need these self created monsters because without them your you would have no excuses.
1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.
2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.
3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.
case in point.
2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.
Show where I have defended white nationalists. I challenge you. HInt: don't waste your time trying to defend this one.
1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.
Don't guess. Read up on it. Rioting, destroying, obstructing traffic, is not Free Speech. YOu are defending violent goons.
3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.
I've commented on their various violent crimes, and suppression of speech, and the support they get from dems.
At no point have I even exaggerated something they have done, or that dems have done for them.
I don't have a guess as to how many of them there are, but they are having a major impact.
And it is completely right and just that people fight back against them.
The vast majority of people called that name by liberals, are indeed, as you say, "patriotic American who happens to be white."
There are a very small number of people that are really that though. They do exist. Just very, very rare, and irrelevant, except as props for the vile left.
The whole point of the term is that it lumps the good people in with the bad. It's a blatant campaign to smear all white conservative Americans as racists."White nationalist" is a leftwing euphemism meaning "patriotic American who happens to be white." Don't use the term. You only lend their narrative credibility when you do.1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.
2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.
3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.
case in point.
2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.
Show where I have defended white nationalists. I challenge you. HInt: don't waste your time trying to defend this one.
1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.
Don't guess. Read up on it. Rioting, destroying, obstructing traffic, is not Free Speech. YOu are defending violent goons.
3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.
I've commented on their various violent crimes, and suppression of speech, and the support they get from dems.
At no point have I even exaggerated something they have done, or that dems have done for them.
I don't have a guess as to how many of them there are, but they are having a major impact.
And it is completely right and just that people fight back against them.
The vast majority of people called that name by liberals, are indeed, as you say, "patriotic American who happens to be white."
There are a very small number of people that are really that though. They do exist. Just very, very rare, and irrelevant, except as props for the vile left.
What does believing in the Bible have anything to do with assuming that you trust the federal government?
To a sub human who actually thinks "God" had only one son and picked the Milky Way over the other 100 billion galaxies, and then put that son on our star system, one of a hundred billion stars in the Milky Way....
yeah, failure to THUMP means "liberal," and this superTARD would probably call W a "conservative" without being able to ID one single thing W did that actually was conservative...
