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but why? how can all the 47% who support Obama no matter what, all be people who think they are victims, who feel entitled to healthcare and food etc, who pay no income taxes, be any different from the 47% who pay no income taxes? the percentage comes out of 100 percent.but Uncensored, there are ONLY 47% that do not pay income taxes when all said and done.... so ALL of the 47% that he disparages are the 47% who pay no taxes....they are one and the same in his eyes and his statement.
thus the criticism of his statement.....
there is no way that ALL of the 47% that pay no income taxes are just Democrats that will never vote for him, are people who take no responsibility for their own lives, are people who believe they are victims, are people who feel they are entitled to health care, and food etc....
that 47% that owe nothing to the irs, include seniors, that are both Republicans and Democrats or neither.... and include some of the the wealthiest among us....and include people that receive absolutely no gvt help or assistance in any manner from the government they just legally owe no taxes based on the laws that are written....they are not all victims....they are not all people who feel they are entitled to gvt health care and food and housing etc.....they are not all people who take no personal responsibility for their own lives....
So YOU and Romney are WRONG on defining those who owe no income taxes on april 15th in that manner and are way wrong to think that the 47% who legally owe no taxes are all Obama supporters and not made up of Romney supporters as well.
You have bevcome dishonest in your debating...in my eyes.
That saddens me.
I'm a numbers person...explain it to me by the numbers, that coincide with his statements on who this 47% are.....
see, in my book.....if Mitt says the 47% are those who feel victimized and entitled and take no responsibility for their lives, and PAY NO income TAXES....then there is no other choice by the numbers to believe that the people he spoke about are the 47% reported by bls or the tax policy center that PAY NO income TAXES.
If there was a chart that showed that 60% pay no income taxes, then his 47% could come out of that 60% leaving 13% that could be others in the "pay no income tax category" that do NOT fit the ones that feel victimized, entitled and have no personal responsibility for their own lives...... but that is not the case....there are only 47% who pay no income taxes so they have to be one and the same of his 47% that he disparaged. Number wise, there is no way to dance around it....please tell me how this is wrong, with numbers.... I honestly am opened to hearing it.
Romney + Karl Rove + Rush Limbaugh + Grover Norquist + super rich + $uperPACs = 1%
but Uncensored, there are ONLY 47% that do not pay income taxes when all said and done.... so ALL of the 47% that he disparages are the 47% who pay no taxes....they are one and the same in his eyes and his statement.Of course he meant it, and he's right.
He was just speaking the truth.
We just have the Obama campaign demagogueing this in hopes of creating an issue. One of Obama's propaganda outlets, Mother Jones, released old footage right at the moment that Obama was taking heat for his apologies, then other Obama propaganda outlets like MSNBC and CNN jump in with faux outrage.
Contrived bullshit to distract from Obama's record of failure/
Nah, he was just stating the unvarnished truth - and we all know it. Further, despite the efforts of the demagoguery corps, this is helping, not hurting Romney.
It's a widely reported figure from the BLS.
thus the criticism of his statement.....
there is no way that ALL of the 47% that pay no income taxes are just Democrats that will never vote for him, are people who take no responsibility for their own lives, are people who believe they are victims, are people who feel they are entitled to health care, and food etc....
that 47% that owe nothing to the irs, include seniors, that are both Republicans and Democrats or neither.... and include some of the the wealthiest among us....and include people that receive absolutely no gvt help or assistance in any manner from the government they just legally owe no taxes based on the laws that are written....they are not all victims....they are not all people who feel they are entitled to gvt health care and food and housing etc.....they are not all people who take no personal responsibility for their own lives....
So YOU and Romney are WRONG on defining those who owe no income taxes on april 15th in that manner and are way wrong to think that the 47% who legally owe no taxes are all Obama supporters and not made up of Romney supporters as well.
You have bevcome dishonest in your debating...in my eyes.
That saddens me.
lol....full transcript.....LMAO......
Barb...when asked for the entire film, they claimed 2 minutes were lost.
But please....continue......
Link?
If so, what does that prove? You already support everything that drops (like stink in church) from his lips. What's the problem with the rest coming out?
When you only name republicans and leave out democrats you sound like a pathetic hack.
He DID??
Oh wait, you're just lying again.
But... you can openly lie about it.
{There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what}
Yep, including some mindless sycophants... Know anyone like that, Care?
{All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement.}
Hard to argue with - factually correct from every aspect.
{And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ...}
People vote their own interests. Those who live on entitlements support the entitlement president, Obama.
{These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."}
Again, impossible to argue with - he is 100% correct.
No it wasn't, it was a factual and sensible statement. You demagogues attack in hopes of distracting from Obama's failure in the middle east and the failed economy. The party press hypes this as if it were meaningful in hopes of salvaging their candidate.
One of the "lying points" from ThinkProgess - not true - but you hope it will help Obama.
Romney said nothing about "moochers," and you don't grasp the term. The UAW are moochers, The Chicago Teachers Union are moochers - these are those who use political clout to gorge from the public treasury - these are the Obama core.
Welfare recipients have no pull, they don't qualify as moochers. You've never read Rand and don't grasp the terms you bandy about.
He didn't.
It's sad that it doesn't amaze me that you spout bullshit from KOS as if it were the actual statement, while entirely ignoring what was said. But you are a soldier in the Obama army, your job is to support your little tin god, not to deal with facts.
Mitt Romney paid more in taxes last year than you and I combined in our entire lives have paid.
I'm part of the 53% who pay federal income tax, but I realize that Romney pays far more than I.
But by all mean, agitate for a flat tax. Of course you won't, because there is no ideological underpinning to your words, you don't even grasp that the position you promote, you just recite the script that your party gives you.
Two faced, huh?
Chuckle..
Avoid taxes?
He paid millions in taxes.
Sigh, more pathetic lies from the drones. No one discouraged the use of legal deductions. Your party bosses are lying.
Class warfare and sour grapes you have in spades, bummer that you are bereft of logic and reason.Who are the 47% that will vote for the President no matter what?"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right -- there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."
"they will vote for this president no matter what These are people who pay no income tax. My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
-the 47 % are those who are dependent on gvt
-the 47% are those who believe they are victims
-the 47% are those who believe that gvt has the responsibility to care for them
-the 47% are those who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing
-the 47% are those who pay no income taxes
-the 47% are those who take no personal responsibility and care for their lives.
that's the 47% according to romney's own words.
I just don't see how this can be gotten around to mean anything else but what he said the 47% were....
maybe he didn't mean it? I dunno?
Maybe he was just pandering and telling those 50k a plate donors what they wanted to hear?
Maybe he picked that figure of 47% out of the clear blue and not from the charts and graphs that have been distributed and forwarded by republicans time and time again on those who pay no income taxes?
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How does he get that 47% figure that he used? Is there some chart that shows that 47% of Americans rely and expect gvt assistance or some chart that shows that 47% of Americans don't take personal responsibility for their own lives? Or some chart that shows that 47% of Americans believe they are victims?
PS. I don't go to any blogs on the left or the right. I heard the recording on the news....and of course, on this site....*
Could be the 47% that support Obama as indicated in the polls, could be the 47% of Americans that are currently receiving government assistance of some kind. Why does it really matter tho? Only so you guys have talking points to make Romney 'look bad' and 'against' any section of the population you can group together and convince to vote against him. Why are you really arguing about it, what different is it going to make? None.
He DID??
Oh wait, you're just lying again.
But... you can openly lie about it.
{There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what}
Yep, including some mindless sycophants... Know anyone like that, Care?
{All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement.}
Hard to argue with - factually correct from every aspect.
{And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ...}
People vote their own interests. Those who live on entitlements support the entitlement president, Obama.
{These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."}
Again, impossible to argue with - he is 100% correct.
No it wasn't, it was a factual and sensible statement. You demagogues attack in hopes of distracting from Obama's failure in the middle east and the failed economy. The party press hypes this as if it were meaningful in hopes of salvaging their candidate.
One of the "lying points" from ThinkProgess - not true - but you hope it will help Obama.
Romney said nothing about "moochers," and you don't grasp the term. The UAW are moochers, The Chicago Teachers Union are moochers - these are those who use political clout to gorge from the public treasury - these are the Obama core.
Welfare recipients have no pull, they don't qualify as moochers. You've never read Rand and don't grasp the terms you bandy about.
He didn't.
It's sad that it doesn't amaze me that you spout bullshit from KOS as if it were the actual statement, while entirely ignoring what was said. But you are a soldier in the Obama army, your job is to support your little tin god, not to deal with facts.
Mitt Romney paid more in taxes last year than you and I combined in our entire lives have paid.
I'm part of the 53% who pay federal income tax, but I realize that Romney pays far more than I.
But by all mean, agitate for a flat tax. Of course you won't, because there is no ideological underpinning to your words, you don't even grasp that the position you promote, you just recite the script that your party gives you.
Two faced, huh?
Chuckle..
Avoid taxes?
He paid millions in taxes.
Sigh, more pathetic lies from the drones. No one discouraged the use of legal deductions. Your party bosses are lying.
Class warfare and sour grapes you have in spades, bummer that you are bereft of logic and reason.Who are the 47% that will vote for the President no matter what?"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right -- there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."
"they will vote for this president no matter what These are people who pay no income tax. My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
-the 47 % are those who are dependent on gvt
-the 47% are those who believe they are victims
-the 47% are those who believe that gvt has the responsibility to care for them
-the 47% are those who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing
-the 47% are those who pay no income taxes
-the 47% are those who take no personal responsibility and care for their lives.
that's the 47% according to romney's own words.
I just don't see how this can be gotten around to mean anything else but what he said the 47% were....
maybe he didn't mean it? I dunno?
Maybe he was just pandering and telling those 50k a plate donors what they wanted to hear?
Maybe he picked that figure of 47% out of the clear blue and not from the charts and graphs that have been distributed and forwarded by republicans time and time again on those who pay no income taxes?
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How does he get that 47% figure that he used? Is there some chart that shows that 47% of Americans rely and expect gvt assistance or some chart that shows that 47% of Americans don't take personal responsibility for their own lives? Or some chart that shows that 47% of Americans believe they are victims?
PS. I don't go to any blogs on the left or the right. I heard the recording on the news....and of course, on this site....*
here is an article from Huffington Post from 2011 that might answer some of your question -
Nearly Half Of Americans Live In Households With Government Aid
lol....full transcript.....LMAO......
Barb...when asked for the entire film, they claimed 2 minutes were lost.
But please....continue......
Link?
If so, what does that prove? You already support everything that drops (like stink in church) from his lips. What's the problem with the rest coming out?
Romney + Karl Rove + Rush Limbaugh + Grover Norquist + super rich + $uperPACs = 1%
The 1%
When you only name republicans and leave out democrats you sound like a pathetic hack.
You really are stupid, so stupid it's hard to put it into words.Romney + Karl Rove + Rush Limbaugh + Grover Norquist + super rich + $uperPACs = 1%
The 1%
When you only name republicans and leave out democrats you sound like a pathetic hack.
Last time I checked it was the Republicans that wanted to reduce taxes for the rich(capital gains) to ZERO.
Romney is the 1%.
Obama is the 99%.
link for what?
You are not aware that they admitted they were missing 2 minutes of the audio? They claimed the mic turned off for 2 minutes. Of course it came out when they were boldly asked by Romney to produce the entire audio with no cuts in it.
You need a link for it? You mean the news you watch neglected to mention that?
Wow.
Child...listen up...Romney + Karl Rove + Rush Limbaugh + Grover Norquist + super rich + $uperPACs = 1%
The 1%
When you only name republicans and leave out democrats you sound like a pathetic hack.
Last time I checked it was the Republicans that wanted to reduce taxes for the rich(capital gains) to ZERO.
Romney is the 1%.
Obama is the 99%.
link for what?
You are not aware that they admitted they were missing 2 minutes of the audio? They claimed the mic turned off for 2 minutes. Of course it came out when they were boldly asked by Romney to produce the entire audio with no cuts in it.
You need a link for it? You mean the news you watch neglected to mention that?
Wow.
You really want to listen to two more minutes of Romney putting his foot in his mouth? I think we heard all we needed to hear. What could he have possible said to justify his previous words?
link for what?
You are not aware that they admitted they were missing 2 minutes of the audio? They claimed the mic turned off for 2 minutes. Of course it came out when they were boldly asked by Romney to produce the entire audio with no cuts in it.
You need a link for it? You mean the news you watch neglected to mention that?
Wow.
You really want to listen to two more minutes of Romney putting his foot in his mouth? I think we heard all we needed to hear. What could he have possible said to justify his previous words?
First pull your foot out of your mouth, Romney was right
Chris doesn't want to hear that he wants to fluff the obama shit.Child...listen up...The 1%
When you only name republicans and leave out democrats you sound like a pathetic hack.
Last time I checked it was the Republicans that wanted to reduce taxes for the rich(capital gains) to ZERO.
Romney is the 1%.
Obama is the 99%.
A guy earning 18 bucks an hour on the assembly line has a pension...and when the time comes to cash it in, he will be have to pay capital gains taxes.
Lowering capital gains taxes is not just for the rich. It is a good thing for ALL those with any type of pension or investment.
And guess what....
Raising them...as Obama wants...will have a negative affect on the 99% as well.
link for what?
You are not aware that they admitted they were missing 2 minutes of the audio? They claimed the mic turned off for 2 minutes. Of course it came out when they were boldly asked by Romney to produce the entire audio with no cuts in it.
You need a link for it? You mean the news you watch neglected to mention that?
Wow.
You really want to listen to two more minutes of Romney putting his foot in his mouth? I think we heard all we needed to hear. What could he have possible said to justify his previous words?
First pull your foot out of your mouth, Romney was right
