Saul Alinsky

[Stephanie]

"'Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.' Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. 'Have-Nots' must build power from flesh and blood.

1. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
2. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
3. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
4. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
5. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
6. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
7. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
   1. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
   2. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
   3. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
   4. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions"

Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Figures you would admire Alinsky.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Still flat-out lying with no correction eh Steph?

 

[georgephillip]

Figures you would admire Alinsky.

Do you have a link for your OP?

 

[washamericom]

Hillary's spiritual mentor!

not exactly...



The thesis offered a critique of Alinsky's methods as largely ineffective, all the while describing Alinsky's personality as appealing. The thesis sought to fit Alinsky into a line of American social activists, including Eugene V. Debs, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Walt Whitman. Written in formal academic language, the thesis concluded that "[Alinsky's] power/conflict model is rendered inapplicable by existing social conflicts" and that Alinsky's model had not expanded nationally due to "the anachronistic nature of small autonomous conflict."[1]


In the acknowledgements and end notes of the thesis, Rodham thanked Alinsky for two interviews and a job offer. She declined the latter, saying that "after spending a year trying to make sense out of [Alinsky's] inconsistency, I need three years of legal rigor." Rodham, an honors student at Wellesley, received an A grade on the thesis.[1]


Hillary Rodham senior thesis
Hillary Rodham senior thesis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I wouldn't call Wikipedia an exactly objective source for political items.

That said, Hillary found Alinsky appealing, and developed a way to implement his agenda by adapting to and exploiting current social conflicts. Hence her entire campaign is based on the alleged fact that she has a vagina.

that's where bill came in, for a while.
so to speak... in some way

 

[washamericom]

Still flat-out lying with no correction eh Steph?

awesome steph, you are making these dweebs pretty nervous. heh heh

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

 

[Vigilante]

We have a whole regime of these people.... they have been in the making for decades....McCarthy was 100% correct 60 odd years ago....

 

[Vigilante]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

Source of that, please!

 

[boedicca]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

Source of that, please!

I'm going to guess the flying monkeys up his ass.

 

[HenryBHough]

Good Grief!

I thought I invented these two when I was in sixth grade:

1. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
   
2. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense.

And that was a hell of a long time before Alinsky quit scratching his ass with a pen and tried writing with it. The pen, that is.

But I never wrote 'em down. Damn, I coulda been famous.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

Source of that, please!

Saul Alinsky's books.

 

[Valerie]

awesome steph, you are making these dweebs pretty nervous. heh heh

is alinsky running for president?


more like this thread is evidence just how ascared of hillary some people are..

 

[Moonglow]

7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

First learn how to write...

 

[Vigilante]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

Source of that, please!

Saul Alinsky's books.

Not that it is an infallible source but Wikipedia, even quotes exactly what has been quoted. And we are to believe that because YOU interpret Rules for radical's differently than most others, your OPINION is to be accredited, and all others disregarded..... You have no case, doc!

 

[Valerie]

I don't want her to campaign at all, especially about her Vagina.

I want her to go away.

 

[Moonglow]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

Source of that, please!

Saul Alinsky's books.

Not that it is an infallible source but Wikipedia, even quotes exactly what has been quoted. And we are to believe that because YOU interpret Rules for radical's differently than most others, your OPINION is to be accredited, and all others disregarded..... You have no case, doc!

So you think if Hillary is elected that she will bomb the govt?

 

[boedicca]

I don't want her to campaign at all, especially about her Vagina.

I want her to go away.

Ewwww...does this mean Nixon had Two Vaginas?

 

[Liminal]

this was an email I received: Well what do think?

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Saul Alinsky died about 42 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.


Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA

Education: University of Chicago

Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals


Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.


Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S.?

All eight rules are currently in play.


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:


“There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the
most important.”


1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people


2)) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)


6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.


7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.


8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?


Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as"Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.


If people can read this and still say everything is just fine…they are “useful idiots”.


"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

from: my X

Ah yes, Saul Wolinsky, I remember him well. His writings have had such a profound influence on my thinking that I carry his little red book with me always. Or was that some other guy? I forget. Any way, Saul Wolinsky was a great American.

 

[Vigilante]

It's already been pointed out that Saul Alinsky never wrote or said anything like the list in the OP, right?

Source of that, please!

Saul Alinsky's books.

Not that it is an infallible source but Wikipedia, even quotes exactly what has been quoted. And we are to believe that because YOU interpret Rules for radical's differently than most others, your OPINION is to be accredited, and all others disregarded..... You have no case, doc!

So you think if Hillary is elected that she will bomb the govt?

Stink bomb, Moonbeam.......

 

[Vigilante]

awesome steph, you are making these dweebs pretty nervous. heh heh

is alinsky running for president?


more like this thread is evidence just how ascared of hillary some people are..

The truth done in political satire... how quaint!