Schumer's pipe dream, a trial with.....you know.....evidence.

[Hutch Starskey]

Americans still want to hear from Bolton, Pompeo, Mulvaney, and Slimy Rudy......

Demonstrate this to be true.

Why is your Orange Messiah blocking their testimony?

To piss you off and make the Democrat's job as hard as he possibly can.

Demonstrate this to be true.

Poll: 71% of Americans believe Trump should allow top aides to testify

 

[Mac-7]

I accept your concession of the point.
When you think you can demonstrate Trump acted for personal gain, as you claim, let us know.

Trump tried to get Ukraine to politically hit a rival for the 2020 presidential election. That's of personal gain to Trump who's also campaigning for that same office

Biden misbehaved in ukraine while he was VP

That needs to be investigated

Who said he shouldn't be investigated?

And thats all trump wants to do

No phony FISA warrants or Deep State squealers lurking in the bushes around bidens mansion

Just an open investigation of the facts

Then Trump should have gone about it in a legal manner.

He is

 

[georgephillip]

One thing is certain, you’ve never manned up nor been able to tell the difference between an xx and xy chromosome.

 

[Mac-7]

I accept your concession of the point.
When you think you can demonstrate Trump acted for personal gain, as you claim, let us know.

Trump tried to get Ukraine to politically hit a rival for the 2020 presidential election. That's of personal gain to Trump who's also campaigning for that same office

Biden misbehaved in ukraine while he was VP

That needs to be investigated

Correction. Baseless allegations have been made about Old Joe. We already know what happened. Shokin was removed for not investigating corruption in Ukraine at the insistence of the US, the EU, and the IMF. Full stop. Please, no more lies about Biden. It's getting tiresome.

If so then old joe the coal miners son has nothing to worry about

But I suspect biden has stuck his neck way out for his deadbeat son

Yet, there is ZERO evidence to show he did.

Thats what the investigation is for

 

[The Original Tree]

Tho you r Thooper, Thanks for Assing?

One thing is certain, you’ve never manned up nor been able to tell the difference between an xx and xy chromosome.

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe it's all those "ridiculous" subpoenas?

Trump Vows Stonewall of ‘All’ House Subpoenas, Setting Up Fight Over Powers

"WASHINGTON — The Trump administration escalated its defiance of Congress on Wednesday, as the Justice Department refused to let an official testify on Capitol Hill and President Trump vowed to fight what he called a 'ridiculous' subpoena ordering a former top aide to appear before lawmakers.

"'We’re fighting all the subpoenas,' Mr. Trump told reporters outside the White House. 'These aren’t, like, impartial people. The Democrats are trying to win 2020.'"

Maybe Putin will testify at Trump's upcoming trial?

I don't blame him why give credibility to a Schiff Sham

I don't blame him why give credibility to a Schiff Sham

Will you blame Trump if he doesn't testify in his own defense during Moscow Mitch's upcoming Senate circus?

I'll get pissed if he does

I'll get pissed if he does

Thanks for being the first (and only) conservative to answer my question; how would you feel about testimony from these guys if Trump doesn't show up?

Live updates: Trump impeachment inquiry - CNNPolitics

We'll think about it and give you an answer on November 3rd 2020

We'll think about it and give you an answer on November 3rd 2020

How would the Founding Fathers have voted on Trump's impeachment?

New Fox News poll has support for impeaching and removing Trump steady at 50 percent

 

[Thinker101]

Evidence from Schumer? That does sound like a pipe dream.

Naw, evidence from first-hand witnesses, as requested by Schumer, like Mulvaney and Pompeo, folks with regular direct contact with Trump. You forgot already? Republicans are all about first-hand witnesses. And, given this was a "perfect" call, and Rudy's travels unfailingly serve the national interests of the U.S. of A., how can they not exonerate Trump? Complete exoneration!

What?! You didn't like Schiff's evidence?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you have evidence they are bullshit? Did someone complete an investigation and I wasn't aware of it?

And I'll answer the second one - No there is no conflict of interest. Trump is the nations top cop. He runs the executive branch which puts people in jail for breaking the law.

Is he biased? I sure hope so. Biden is one corrupt fucking guy IMO.

Who polices the police?

If a cop is using their authority for personal gain, that’s a problem, wouldn’t you agree?

Sigh... Congress does. Even if they are completely abusing their power apparently. Trump is ultimately responsible and accountable to ensure corruption is being rooted out. Can't wait for early summer. This board is gonna be lit on fire.

How does Congress police the police when Trump is preventing them from doing their job?

He's not preventing them. He's asked for the third branch to look at it and has all the authority to do so. (There is a third branch of the government which plays as umpire when things are disputed between the other two CO_EQUAL branches of government. It's called the judicial branch.)

Why does the third branch need to tell the first branch that it’s okay to oversee the second branch?

Especially during impeachment.

 

[georgephillip]

I feel Executive Privilege is something that even SCOTUS will uphold. So Pound Salt up your effeminate ass!

Your support for a monarchy is in the best traditions of tiny-handed conservatism, keep up the good work.

Read the Articles of Impeachment Against President Trump

"1) President Trump — acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government — corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into —

("A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and

"(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine — rather than Russia — interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.

"(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump — acting both directly and through his agents"

 

[Faun]

Trump tried to get Ukraine to politically hit a rival for the 2020 presidential election. That's of personal gain to Trump who's also campaigning for that same office

Biden misbehaved in ukraine while he was VP

That needs to be investigated

Who said he shouldn't be investigated?

And thats all trump wants to do

No phony FISA warrants or Deep State squealers lurking in the bushes around bidens mansion

Just an open investigation of the facts

Then Trump should have gone about it in a legal manner.

He is

Nope, he didn't. If was illegal for him to solicit a foreign national to investigate a political rival.

 

[OKTexas]

Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial
The Senate Democratic leader wants to seek testimony from Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other White House officials, and subpoena documents the White House has withheld.
Schumer, Pushing McConnell to Negotiate, Lays Out Plan for Impeachment Trial

WASHINGTON — As the House prepared to make President Trump only the third president in American history to be impeached, the Senate’s top Democrat on Sunday laid out a detailed proposal for a Senate trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly” — including subpoenas for documents the White House has withheld and witnesses it has prevented from testifying.

Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, presented the proposal in a letter to his Republican counterpart, Senator Mitch McConnell, in an opening move to force Republicans to negotiate over the shape and scope of the proceedings. Mr. McConnell had said last week that he was “taking my cues” from the White House, prompting Democrats to accuse him of abandoning his duty to render “impartial justice” in the trial.

In the letter, Mr. Schumer proposed a trial beginning Jan. 7 that would give each side a fixed amount of time to present its case, and called for four top White House officials who have not previously testified — including Mick Mulvaney, Mr. Trump’s acting chief of staff, and John R. Bolton, the president’s former national security adviser — to appear as witnesses.

Mr. Schumer also called for the Senate to subpoena documents that could shed light on the events at the heart of the charges against Mr. Trump: his campaign to enlist Ukraine to investigate his political rivals. And he set forth a specific timetable for each side to present its case, modeled on the one used when President Bill Clinton was tried in 1999. Mr. Clinton’s trial lasted about five weeks.
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Chuck should know better by now than to think McTurtle has an interest in anything approximating the kind of deliberative trial the Senate is obligated conduct. This is why it was so important for Trump's specious narrative of an unfair process in the House to have been spewed (just as it was equally important to make the similarly, objectively false accusations about the Mueller probe). All the trained seals repeat the sham process lie endlessly and will keep doing so all through the phony process Mitch is about to orchestrate in close consultation with the WH (Mitch has adopted the Trumpian strategy of violating rules, ethics, and law right out in the open). Why does McTreason think he can get away with it? Because he knows from experience The Following will swallow any ball of shit he feeds them. They rather like it.

You fucking commies are amazingly stupid. Fact finding is supposed to occur in the house. Then they vote on articles of impeachment that are supported by those facts. The senate trial is where the house impeachment managers present their case to the senate, it's not a place to continue the house investigation.

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[The Original Tree]

I take it you are having Manstruation and bleeding from the ass again?

I feel Executive Privilege is something that even SCOTUS will uphold. So Pound Salt up your effeminate ass!

Your support for a monarchy is in the best traditions of tiny-handed conservatism, keep up the good work.

Read the Articles of Impeachment Against President Trump

"1) President Trump — acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government — corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into —

("A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and

"(B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine — rather than Russia — interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.

"(2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump — acting both directly and through his agents"

 

[hadit]

It's a troll thread about a bullshit hoax. The corruption of the FBI is far more relevant in relation to the persecution of a sitting president.

.

You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

They've already heard the best the prosecution has, so the only new evidence would be from the defense. Is that what you want, to see the charges be reduced to shreds and lying in the dust?

What makes you think that they can't call witnesses and subpoena documents that were obstructed from reaching the House?

They can, if the Republicans in charge allow them to.

Why wouldn't they allow testimony that explains how "perfect" the president acted?

Because they know that putting someone under oath in front of the howling mob isn't a wise thing when they don't have to.

 

[Olde Europe]

Demoncraps are idiots, they prove it everyday. All of a sudden schmucky wants to force the Republicans in the Senate to do what the scum demoncraps wouldn't do in the house. You idiots are corrupt.

So, McConnell, the mendacious clown, shat right into your mouth, and you thought you'd look oh-so smart spitting it all out in here, didn't you, JustlyHammered?

 

[georgephillip]

The whistleblower Report was false

That Tramp LIE just won the LIE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Lie of the Year: Trump’s claim whistleblower got it wrong

hat Tramp LIE just won the LIE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Lie of the Year: Trump’s claim whistleblower got it wrong

Your link:

"Despite what Trump claims, the whistleblower got the call 'almost completely' right.

"RELATED: 10 things Donald Trump got wrong about impeachment in 2019, fact-checked

"We know this from the very record of the call the president released. We know this from testimony under oath from career diplomats and other officials.

"And the president and his allies have told reporters that Trump did what the whistleblower suggested — urged the Ukrainian president to investigate political rival Joe Biden.

"Their argument is that there was nothing inappropriate or unreasonable about it. Trump on Oct. 3 asked China to look at Biden and his son, Hunter, too.

"Every year, PolitiFact editors review the year’s most flagrant inaccuracies in search of a significant false claim that can be elevated to Lie of the Year.

"The distinction is awarded to a statement that is more than ridiculous and wrong.

"The Lie of the Year — the only time PolitiFact uses the word 'lie' — speaks to a falsehood that proves to be of real consequence and gets repeated in a virtual campaign to undermine an accurate narrative.

"The whistleblower, who to Trump’s consternation remains unidentified, raised the concern that the president’s actions leading up to and on that phone call amount to interference in the coming presidential election.

"Agree or disagree with the conclusion, or whether the president’s conduct warrants impeachment, the actions described in the complaint stand up to factual scrutiny.

"The claim that the whistleblower got his phone call 'almost completely wrong' is PolitiFact’s 2019 Lie of the Year."

 

[colfax_m]

You're trolling the thread, mate. Start a thread on the FBI if you want to discuss it so badly.
I think the American people deserve to hear a full trial of Trump. Not doing so is nakedly abandoning their constitutional duties.

They've already heard the best the prosecution has, so the only new evidence would be from the defense. Is that what you want, to see the charges be reduced to shreds and lying in the dust?

What makes you think that they can't call witnesses and subpoena documents that were obstructed from reaching the House?

They can, if the Republicans in charge allow them to.

Why wouldn't they allow testimony that explains how "perfect" the president acted?

Because they know that putting someone under oath in front of the howling mob isn't a wise thing when they don't have to.

They’d be questioned by the impeachment manager filling the role as prosecutor and I believe they’d be following the same rules as any witness in a trial that is managed by Roberts. A howling mob it most certainly is not.

It has far more to do with having to be under oath and the possibility that they might have to tell the truth.

That’s one hell of a scary thing for these thugs.

 

[The Original Tree]

You can’t even get your gender right, nor figure out which bathroom to use so why should anyone listen to you?

The whistleblower Report was false

That Tramp LIE just won the LIE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Lie of the Year: Trump’s claim whistleblower got it wrong

hat Tramp LIE just won the LIE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Lie of the Year: Trump’s claim whistleblower got it wrong

Your link:

"Despite what Trump claims, the whistleblower got the call 'almost completely' right.

"RELATED: 10 things Donald Trump got wrong about impeachment in 2019, fact-checked

"We know this from the very record of the call the president released. We know this from testimony under oath from career diplomats and other officials.

"And the president and his allies have told reporters that Trump did what the whistleblower suggested — urged the Ukrainian president to investigate political rival Joe Biden.

"Their argument is that there was nothing inappropriate or unreasonable about it. Trump on Oct. 3 asked China to look at Biden and his son, Hunter, too.

"Every year, PolitiFact editors review the year’s most flagrant inaccuracies in search of a significant false claim that can be elevated to Lie of the Year.

"The distinction is awarded to a statement that is more than ridiculous and wrong.

"The Lie of the Year — the only time PolitiFact uses the word 'lie' — speaks to a falsehood that proves to be of real consequence and gets repeated in a virtual campaign to undermine an accurate narrative.

"The whistleblower, who to Trump’s consternation remains unidentified, raised the concern that the president’s actions leading up to and on that phone call amount to interference in the coming presidential election.

"Agree or disagree with the conclusion, or whether the president’s conduct warrants impeachment, the actions described in the complaint stand up to factual scrutiny.

"The claim that the whistleblower got his phone call 'almost completely wrong' is PolitiFact’s 2019 Lie of the Year."

 

[Olde Europe]

What?! You didn't like Schiff's evidence?

I like Schiff's evidence a lot, more so since it stood unopposed by testimony by Pompeo and Mulvaney, who couldn't find the sorry remnants of their spines if their lives depended on it. It is easily enough to impeach your Dear Leader, and it's more than sufficient to remove the clownish goon - and removed he would be, if two dozen GOP Senators could find their misplaced consciences. Yeah, I know, fat chance.

Honestly, Thinker, read that thing, and explain to the forum how, while maintaining a shred of self-respect, you manage to support that raging loon, please. For even if conviction and removal won't happen, that "letter" - better named an excretion of a sick and dysfunctional mind - should be enough to invoke the 25th Amendment.

 

[OKTexas]

They've already heard the best the prosecution has, so the only new evidence would be from the defense. Is that what you want, to see the charges be reduced to shreds and lying in the dust?

What makes you think that they can't call witnesses and subpoena documents that were obstructed from reaching the House?

They can, if the Republicans in charge allow them to.

Why wouldn't they allow testimony that explains how "perfect" the president acted?

Because they know that putting someone under oath in front of the howling mob isn't a wise thing when they don't have to.

They’d be questioned by the impeachment manager filling the role as prosecutor and I believe they’d be following the same rules as any witness in a trial that is managed by Roberts. A howling mob it most certainly is not.

It has far more to do with having to be under oath and the possibility that they might have to tell the truth.

That’s one hell of a scary thing for these thugs.

If the house case is too weak to proceed on it's own, perhaps the house should get their shit together before hand.

.

 

[busybee01]

Sen. Schumer: If Republicans refuse witnesses they’re 'engaged in a cover-up'
Sen. Schumer: If Republicans refuse witnesses they’re 'engaged in a cover-up'


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The witnesses Schumer wanted were actually germane to the issue. The witnesses House Republicans wanted except for 2 were not germane to the issue. The germane witnesses did testify. They didn't help Trump at all.