Senate Appears To Have Votes to Overturn Emergency Declaration

[ColonelAngus]

Libs here don’t like facts.

Most of these idiots claim illegal immigrants are more law abiding than US citizens.

It’s a fucking lie, but they won’t stop saying it.

Departments of Justice and Homeland Security Release Data on Incarcerated Aliens—94 Percent of All Confirmed Aliens in DOJ Custody Are Unlawfully Present

Liberals will never stop their lies.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Departments of Justice and Homeland Security Release Data on Incarcerated Aliens—94 Percent of All Confirmed Aliens in DOJ Custody Are Unlawfully Present

 

[80zephyr]

Define emergency.

Mark

Something that happens that requires an immediate response.

If I told you that more migrant families were arrested at the border in the past 5 months then in any previous full year, would you believe that to be an emergency?

Mark

No. Around the year 2000 we had over a million arrests. There was no national emergency then.

In the ensuing 18 years...

*GDP has doubled in this nation.

*The Stock Market has doubled a great many times.

*Family wealth has increased on the average which is remarkable considering that the power of labor has gone from being on life support to being legally dead

*Violent crime continues to decrease

*Standards of living continue to increase

*The drug problem has gotten worse but as we have seen with prisons, walls and guards do little to stop drugs from getting in to those places so it's foolish to think it will stop a measurable quantity from getting over a 2,000 mile barrier.

My turn: Please justify declaring a "national emergency" in 02/19? Why wasn't it a national emergency in 01/17 when the President took office?
I understand not getting funding through Congress was frustrating but Congress is not there to be a rubber stamp for the President.

Doesn't this open the door to funding any campaign promise through declaration of a National Emergency?

Wasn't Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?

The emergency is real.

Mathematically you don't have a leg to stand on. Nor is there any evidence of a national emergency due to illegal immigration.

And Trump tried to get funding from day 1. Pelosi and the Democrats understand that giving Trump his wall will ensure his re-election. They would rather burn the country down than allow that.

Mark

Your opinion is irrelevant; as is mine.

As for "trying" to get funding...so? Lots of Presidents try to get funding for lots of things. None have declared a national emergency when they failed.

Wasn't Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?

Doesn't a declaration open the door to funding any campaign promise through the declaration of a National Emergency if Trump's actions stands?

Of the other emergency declarations by presidents, how were they funded?

Mark

 

[peach174]

First off, defending our borders is a national security matter and that falls under the executive, not the Congress. Paul is arguing that the President must bend to the will of Congress on a national security issue, which is clearly contrary to the intent of the Constitution. Let's keep in mind that this vote is just a gesture and will have no practical effect on building the fence, so Paul's chest thumping is just theater he will not have to take any real responsibility for.

It is NOT a national "security issue." These people are not coming in to attack us. They just want to live and work here. Yes, there are drug cartels sending their wares across the border illegally, as well, but they are coming in through customs and the Border Patrol will tell you that. The Wall will not solve a fraction of that problem.

First off, defending our borders is a national security matter and that falls under the executive, not the Congress. Paul is arguing that the President must bend to the will of Congress on a national security issue, which is clearly contrary to the intent of the Constitution. Let's keep in mind that this vote is just a gesture and will have no practical effect on building the fence, so Paul's chest thumping is just theater he will not have to take any real responsibility for.

It is NOT a national "security issue." These people are not coming in to attack us. They just want to live and work here. Yes, there are drug cartels sending their wares across the border illegally, as well, but they are coming in through customs and the Border Patrol will tell you that. The Wall will not solve a fraction of that problem.

Human trafficking and drugs are a national security issue.

As I already pointed out, drugs are smuggled through customs, not walked across the border. Border Patrol will tell you that.
Human trafficking is not going to be stopped with a fence, either. Employers willing to hire them and men willing to give these prostitutes trade are the reason human trafficking flourishes.

Perhaps this will help you understand more what our Az. Border patrol has been dealing with for years.

Peach, I don't watch vids here, but I do know you guys on the border see some stuff. I know people are still slipping over, despite all the Border Patrol can do. I have no problem with a fence in areas where there is a lot of foot traffic (I'm not a Dem being miserable for the sheer hell of it). But it cannot be "solved" the way Trump is trying to solve it. He is undermining the Constitution's checks and balances and he is relying too heavily on a physical barrier instead of digging to the heart of the problem, which is somehow developing zero tolerance for employers hiring illegals and severe penalties for those making fake documents for these folks. That is all it will take.

Neither of our political parties wants to stop it ,each party for different reasons.
Our Border Patrol has asked for steel fencing of about 918 miles to help reinforce our ports of entry with our southern borders.
They don't have enough agents, so they want the fence that helps to slow them down and then they can put more agents in the open areas that can't be fenced.
Trump did this because congress has refused to deal with it for almost 30 years.
Like I said both parties are benefitting from those poor desperate people. It has to stop somehow.
At least Trump is fighting for the Border Patrol and U.S. citizens that's being harmed.

 

[80zephyr]

Rand Paul and three others have decided that they are “no” votes on the Emergency Declaration.

Senate Seems to Have Enough Votes to Reject Trump’s Emergency Declaration

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The doesn’t seem to be enough to over-ride the assured Presidential veto however.

Yet.

Rand Paul and three others have decided that they are “no” votes on the Emergency Declaration.

Senate Seems to Have Enough Votes to Reject Trump’s Emergency Declaration

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The doesn’t seem to be enough to over-ride the assured Presidential veto however.

Yet.

No obstructions for Obama's emergency declaration that I am aware of. But now that someone is finally standing for the American people, of course it has to be overturned.

You are probably wrong that someone like Ron Paul would take that route.

Yeah...those were actual emergencies. In retrospect, he probably should have declared a national emergency for the 10-15% who are not insured, looted already allocated funds and provided universal healthcare. After all, that is what Trump is doing; looting the treasury to fulfill a campaign promise

Um, I posted this before. These are the parameters used to permit a national emergency.

33 U.S. Code § 2293, says: "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

Now, if you can figure out just how Trump was supposed to use this program to fund universal health care, let me know.

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

lol After 58 national emergencies declared by every president since 1976 and thirteen by Obama and three previous national emergencies by Trump, Paul decided this was a good time to defend the Constitution?

None of them directly confront the Constitution the way this does. The only one that dealt with domestic policy was overturned by the courts.

Rand Paul
"To my mind, like it or not, we had this conversation. In fact, the government was shut down in a public battle over how much money would be spent on the wall and border security. It ended with a deal that Congress passed and the president signed into law, thus determining the amount.

Congress clearly expressed its will not to spend more than $1.3 billion and to restrict how much of that money could go to barriers. Therefore, President Trump’s emergency order is clearly in opposition to the will of Congress.

Moreover, the broad principle of separation of powers in the Constitution delegates the power of the purse to Congress. This turns that principle on its head.

I, and many of my fellow members, called out President Obama for abusing executive authority. President Obama famously said that if Congress wouldn’t do what he wanted, he had his pen and his phone ready. That was wrong. Many of those voting now spent a good portion of their campaigns running ads against these words and actions of President Obama. They will and should be condemned for hypocrisy if they vote to allow this because they want the policy or want to stand with the president in a partisan fight."

First off, defending our borders is a national security matter and that falls under the executive, not the Congress. Paul is arguing that the President must bend to the will of Congress on a national security issue, which is clearly contrary to the intent of the Constitution. Let's keep in mind that this vote is just a gesture and will have no practical effect on building the fence, so Paul's chest thumping is just theater he will not have to take any real responsibility for.

No, he’s stating that the constitution says congress allocates the money and looting those previously allocated funds is something he can’t support

33 U.S. Code § 2293, says: "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

It really can't be anymore clearcut than that.

Mark

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7

It really can't be more clear cut than that since the Constitution has priority over a law.

Yes, the Constitution does say that. And Congress passed the emergency act which is an appropriation by Congress. Matter of fact, the emergency act seems to be custom made for what Trump is doing.

Mark

 

[BULLDOG]

Why do Repubs give a shit if there is a physical barrier on the US southern border? Specifically?

The "it will work" part is a proven lie. So list real reasons.

I suspect they just support Trump's whims no matter how goofy those whims are.

Walls will slow them down. Kind of like a door lock at your house.
Idiot.

The money can be better spent other ways. We both know the only reason the right is pushing for that silly wall is because of Trump's dumb campaign promise. That promise is already broken anyway. Mexico isn't going to pay for any wall.

Its better than amnesty and shit.
I don't support the wall, i want to actually fix the system. Nevertheless, the arguments against the wall are stupid.

The arguments for the wall are stupid.

No, your arguments against it are stupid.

The majority of the country disagrees with you.

 

[AntonToo]

None of them directly confront the Constitution the way this does. The only one that dealt with domestic policy was overturned by the courts.

Rand Paul
"To my mind, like it or not, we had this conversation. In fact, the government was shut down in a public battle over how much money would be spent on the wall and border security. It ended with a deal that Congress passed and the president signed into law, thus determining the amount.

Congress clearly expressed its will not to spend more than $1.3 billion and to restrict how much of that money could go to barriers. Therefore, President Trump’s emergency order is clearly in opposition to the will of Congress.

Moreover, the broad principle of separation of powers in the Constitution delegates the power of the purse to Congress. This turns that principle on its head.

I, and many of my fellow members, called out President Obama for abusing executive authority. President Obama famously said that if Congress wouldn’t do what he wanted, he had his pen and his phone ready. That was wrong. Many of those voting now spent a good portion of their campaigns running ads against these words and actions of President Obama. They will and should be condemned for hypocrisy if they vote to allow this because they want the policy or want to stand with the president in a partisan fight."

First off, defending our borders is a national security matter and that falls under the executive, not the Congress. Paul is arguing that the President must bend to the will of Congress on a national security issue, which is clearly contrary to the intent of the Constitution. Let's keep in mind that this vote is just a gesture and will have no practical effect on building the fence, so Paul's chest thumping is just theater he will not have to take any real responsibility for.

No, he’s stating that the constitution says congress allocates the money and looting those previously allocated funds is something he can’t support

33 U.S. Code § 2293, says: "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

It really can't be anymore clearcut than that.

Mark

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7

It really can't be more clear cut than that since the Constitution has priority over a law.

Yes, the Constitution does say that. And Congress passed the emergency act which is an appropriation by Congress. Matter of fact, the emergency act seems to be custom made for what Trump is doing.

Mark

Custom made? You are on drugs, Congress says(and will vote) that there is not a true a emergency and Trump is abusing the Emergency Act.

Emergency Act was never meant to be a vehicle for POTUS to bypass Congress that ALREADY REJECTED spending POTUS wants.

 

[BULLDOG]

The military construction fund isn't a slush fund that can be tapped on a presidential whim. It was funded for specific military construction projects, and can not be redirected without some military reason to do so. We are not under attack, and there is no military reason to build a wall.

------------------------- i think that we have USA Military on the Border right now Bulldog .

They are not there in a military role since the military cannot enforce civilian law.

They are there to defend the border in the event the Border Patrol fails.

They cannot arrest anyone as they cannot enforce civilian law.

-------------------------------------- its my HOPE that that will change when it applies to foreign invaders BBee.

There aren't any foreign invaders dumb ass.

 

[busybee01]

None of them directly confront the Constitution the way this does. The only one that dealt with domestic policy was overturned by the courts.

Rand Paul
"To my mind, like it or not, we had this conversation. In fact, the government was shut down in a public battle over how much money would be spent on the wall and border security. It ended with a deal that Congress passed and the president signed into law, thus determining the amount.

Congress clearly expressed its will not to spend more than $1.3 billion and to restrict how much of that money could go to barriers. Therefore, President Trump’s emergency order is clearly in opposition to the will of Congress.

Moreover, the broad principle of separation of powers in the Constitution delegates the power of the purse to Congress. This turns that principle on its head.

I, and many of my fellow members, called out President Obama for abusing executive authority. President Obama famously said that if Congress wouldn’t do what he wanted, he had his pen and his phone ready. That was wrong. Many of those voting now spent a good portion of their campaigns running ads against these words and actions of President Obama. They will and should be condemned for hypocrisy if they vote to allow this because they want the policy or want to stand with the president in a partisan fight."

First off, defending our borders is a national security matter and that falls under the executive, not the Congress. Paul is arguing that the President must bend to the will of Congress on a national security issue, which is clearly contrary to the intent of the Constitution. Let's keep in mind that this vote is just a gesture and will have no practical effect on building the fence, so Paul's chest thumping is just theater he will not have to take any real responsibility for.

No, he’s stating that the constitution says congress allocates the money and looting those previously allocated funds is something he can’t support

33 U.S. Code § 2293, says: "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

It really can't be anymore clearcut than that.

Mark

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7

It really can't be more clear cut than that since the Constitution has priority over a law.

The drug interdiction money is held by the Treasury but it is not part of the Treasury funds that were collected through taxes, so Congress has no jurisdiction over it. Why even argue this? It's a done deal that this money will be used to build the border fence.

 

[BULLDOG]

Why do Dimms give a shit if there is a physical barrier on the US southern border? Specifically?

The money part is a lie. So list real problems.

Why do Repubs give a shit if there is a physical barrier on the US southern border? Specifically?

The "it will work" part is a proven lie. So list real reasons.

I suspect they just support Trump's whims no matter how goofy those whims are.

Easy, we want illegal aliens stopped. We've tried everything but an actual wall, which has worked forever

No we haven't A comprehensive immigration program would help more than anything.Walls might have worked in the 14th century, but not today.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Illegal Immigrants commit crimes at a higher rate than Citizens.....according to the DOJ.

Stop lying liberals, you guys suck at it.

 

[busybee01]

None of them directly confront the Constitution the way this does. The only one that dealt with domestic policy was overturned by the courts.

Rand Paul
"To my mind, like it or not, we had this conversation. In fact, the government was shut down in a public battle over how much money would be spent on the wall and border security. It ended with a deal that Congress passed and the president signed into law, thus determining the amount.

Congress clearly expressed its will not to spend more than $1.3 billion and to restrict how much of that money could go to barriers. Therefore, President Trump’s emergency order is clearly in opposition to the will of Congress.

Moreover, the broad principle of separation of powers in the Constitution delegates the power of the purse to Congress. This turns that principle on its head.

I, and many of my fellow members, called out President Obama for abusing executive authority. President Obama famously said that if Congress wouldn’t do what he wanted, he had his pen and his phone ready. That was wrong. Many of those voting now spent a good portion of their campaigns running ads against these words and actions of President Obama. They will and should be condemned for hypocrisy if they vote to allow this because they want the policy or want to stand with the president in a partisan fight."

First off, defending our borders is a national security matter and that falls under the executive, not the Congress. Paul is arguing that the President must bend to the will of Congress on a national security issue, which is clearly contrary to the intent of the Constitution. Let's keep in mind that this vote is just a gesture and will have no practical effect on building the fence, so Paul's chest thumping is just theater he will not have to take any real responsibility for.

No, he’s stating that the constitution says congress allocates the money and looting those previously allocated funds is something he can’t support

33 U.S. Code § 2293, says: "Reprogramming during national emergencies," permits the president to "apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program, including funds, personnel, and equipment, to construct or assist in the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense."

It really can't be anymore clearcut than that.

Mark

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7

It really can't be more clear cut than that since the Constitution has priority over a law.

The drug interdiction money is held by the Treasury but it is not part of the Treasury funds that were collected through taxes, so Congress has no jurisdiction over it. Why even argue this? It's a done deal that this money will be used to build the border fence.

Untrue. Congress has authority over all spending. Mick Mulvaney said that if Mexico gave a check to the US to pay for a wall, that money would go to the Treasury until Congress authorizes the money to be spent. The principle is the same. There is no slush fund for the Executive Branch to use.

 

[Godboy]

Walls will slow them down. Kind of like a door lock at your house.
Idiot.

The money can be better spent other ways. We both know the only reason the right is pushing for that silly wall is because of Trump's dumb campaign promise. That promise is already broken anyway. Mexico isn't going to pay for any wall.

Its better than amnesty and shit.
I don't support the wall, i want to actually fix the system. Nevertheless, the arguments against the wall are stupid.

The arguments for the wall are stupid.

No, your arguments against it are stupid.

The majority of the country disagrees with you.

Is that what some idiotic poll told you? Shut up fool.

 

[busybee01]

Yeah, those nannies and gardeners face a real threat. Ridiculous.

But to your point, if the President can loot the treasury, we no longer have a system of checks and balances. So why stop at $5B or even $50B?

It just underscores that we've elected a complete fucking clown as our President--Donald Trump. We shouldn't be surprised by the circus that follows.

Are you criticizing Trump for... doing what he was elected to do?

Doubtful you voted for him to loot the treasury. But then again, who knows?

Now that is ridiculous. Indeed, he should use all and every measures necessary to guarantee that the border gets shut down and the invasion is stopped on its tracks.

There is no invasion....but don't let the facts stand in the way of hysterical reasoning.

There are more illegals in the country than people enlisted in the US military.

Keep telling yourself that, keep telling yourself that.

People voted for Trump to take the money from the treasury and deal with the problem. Pull your head out of the sand.

Voters overwhelmingly disapprove of Trump's use of a national emergency to build a wall. Voters in 2016 opposed building a wall. You are the ostrich with ghis head in the sand.

Who is the President? I'm just asking.

Who controls the House? Just asking.

 

[Oddball]

You are the partisan hack. Rand Paul has not been a honest broker. He has pointed out a number of unconservative things Trump has done and always backed down. This is the first time he has followed through.

I'm an anarchist, dumbbell...And Rand has opposed several things that the orange God Emperor has favored and done...Even so, they still have one-on-one confabs and play a lot of golf together.

The partisan hack who only gives a flying fuck about what the Constitution says when it's convenient is you.

That is so much bullshit. Actually you are a neo-Nazi, fascist thug.

Trump supporters believe that the 2nd Amendment prevents ANY gun control. In other words the Constitution trumps law. Now Trump supporters say a law trumps the Constitution. There are numerous threads proving it so take your shit and shove it.

It's already clear that the you couldn't care less about the Constitution, except out of convenience...Which makes you the fascist, fascist.

So take your constitutionalism-of-convenience and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

 

[busybee01]

ac

Congress in this case was very specific in how the money is to be spent. There are numerous restrictions which overrides that discretion.

Just like it cost Republicans the House. 2020 will see further erosion of Republican power. The question is whether they will lose the White House or Senate or both.

After people seeing 2 years of Democrat lies, tantrums and bullshit? Unlikely.

People have seen 2 years of Trump's lies, tantrum, insults and bullshit. They already gave control of the House to Democrats.

Stupid is as stupid does. Lots of morons believe everything the liars in the media say. Must be sad to be that stupid, but I liken it to being back in 1800's when people had no idea what was going on. Same conditions exist today.

Stupid is as stupid does. Trump supporters are the stupid morons. Voters know that Trump is a liar extraordinaire. A new Quinnipiac poll shows this.

American voters believe Cohen more than Trump 50 - 35 percent. Cohen told the truth, 44 percent of voters say, while 36 percent say he did not tell the truth.

Voters say 65 - 30 percent that Trump is not honest, his worst grade ever on that character trait. He gets negative grades on other traits:

• 39 - 58 percent that he has good leadership skills;
• 39 - 58 percent that he cares about average Americans;
• 22 - 71 percent that he is a good role model for children.

Trump gets mixed or negative grades for handling key issues:

• 49 percent approve his handling of the economy and 45 percent disapprove;
• Negative 38 - 56 percent for handling foreign policy;
• Negative 40 - 58 percent for handling immigration issues.

QU Poll Release Detail

You are the stupid one if you think illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than US citizens. Willfully ignorant, but you will keep saying it and ignoring the facts.

Cohen is going to jail for lying to Congress.

You are the one who is willfully ignorant and stupid. Illegals do commit crimes at a lower rate. Facts mean nothing to you.

 

[busybee01]

You are the partisan hack. Rand Paul has not been a honest broker. He has pointed out a number of unconservative things Trump has done and always backed down. This is the first time he has followed through.

I'm an anarchist, dumbbell...And Rand has opposed several things that the orange God Emperor has favored and done...Even so, they still have one-on-one confabs and play a lot of golf together.

The partisan hack who only gives a flying fuck about what the Constitution says when it's convenient is you.

That is so much bullshit. Actually you are a neo-Nazi, fascist thug.

Trump supporters believe that the 2nd Amendment prevents ANY gun control. In other words the Constitution trumps law. Now Trump supporters say a law trumps the Constitution. There are numerous threads proving it so take your shit and shove it.

It's already clear that the you couldn't care less about the Constitution, except out of convenience...Which makes you the fascist, fascist.

So take your constitutionalism-of-convenience and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

You take your garbage and shove it up your ass. You are the one who supports the Constitution when it is convenient fascist.

 

[ColonelAngus]

ac

After people seeing 2 years of Democrat lies, tantrums and bullshit? Unlikely.

People have seen 2 years of Trump's lies, tantrum, insults and bullshit. They already gave control of the House to Democrats.

Stupid is as stupid does. Lots of morons believe everything the liars in the media say. Must be sad to be that stupid, but I liken it to being back in 1800's when people had no idea what was going on. Same conditions exist today.

Stupid is as stupid does. Trump supporters are the stupid morons. Voters know that Trump is a liar extraordinaire. A new Quinnipiac poll shows this.

American voters believe Cohen more than Trump 50 - 35 percent. Cohen told the truth, 44 percent of voters say, while 36 percent say he did not tell the truth.

Voters say 65 - 30 percent that Trump is not honest, his worst grade ever on that character trait. He gets negative grades on other traits:

• 39 - 58 percent that he has good leadership skills;
• 39 - 58 percent that he cares about average Americans;
• 22 - 71 percent that he is a good role model for children.

Trump gets mixed or negative grades for handling key issues:

• 49 percent approve his handling of the economy and 45 percent disapprove;
• Negative 38 - 56 percent for handling foreign policy;
• Negative 40 - 58 percent for handling immigration issues.

QU Poll Release Detail

You are the stupid one if you think illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than US citizens. Willfully ignorant, but you will keep saying it and ignoring the facts.

Cohen is going to jail for lying to Congress.

You are the one who is willfully ignorant and stupid. Illegals do commit crimes at a lower rate. Facts mean nothing to you.

You are the liar.

Straight from the US department of Justice. See how I bring facts and you bring shit?

Read it and shut the fuck up.

Departments of Justice and Homeland Security Release Data on Incarcerated Aliens—94 Percent of All Confirmed Aliens in DOJ Custody Are Unlawfully Present

 

[Oddball]

You are the partisan hack. Rand Paul has not been a honest broker. He has pointed out a number of unconservative things Trump has done and always backed down. This is the first time he has followed through.

I'm an anarchist, dumbbell...And Rand has opposed several things that the orange God Emperor has favored and done...Even so, they still have one-on-one confabs and play a lot of golf together.

The partisan hack who only gives a flying fuck about what the Constitution says when it's convenient is you.

That is so much bullshit. Actually you are a neo-Nazi, fascist thug.

Trump supporters believe that the 2nd Amendment prevents ANY gun control. In other words the Constitution trumps law. Now Trump supporters say a law trumps the Constitution. There are numerous threads proving it so take your shit and shove it.

It's already clear that the you couldn't care less about the Constitution, except out of convenience...Which makes you the fascist, fascist.

So take your constitutionalism-of-convenience and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

You take your garbage and shove it up your ass. You are the one who supports the Constitution when it is convenient fascist.