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They already have kids, all we’re asking is that they not kill those kids… and they’re not beyond saving if they haven’t crossed that moral event horizon and taken innocent lives for their own selfish benefit yet.The problem that I see with this argument, like Marty, is that the people you are intimating are insane and unjust are the very people you are arguing we should force to have kids. Where's the rationale in that?
Morality is subjective and therefore not a rational basis for any argument.They already have kids, all we’re asking is that they not kill those kids… and they’re not beyond saving if they haven’t crossed that moral event horizon and taken innocent lives for their own selfish benefit yet.
And yet, whatever you say, killing innocent human beings in cold blood for your own personal benefit is crossing a moral event horizon from which the perpetrator’s humanity cannot recover.Morality is subjective and therefore not a rational basis for any argument.
There is no rational evidence that your version of morality is anything more than a figment of your imagination.And yet, whatever you say, killing innocent human beings in cold blood for your own personal benefit is crossing a moral event horizon from which the perpetrator’s humanity cannot recover.
Yet you're the one arguing that not only should people who believe this be allowed to procreate, you're arguing they should be forced to through threat of law. Go figure that one.Such a monstrous and inhuman former person does not belong in civilization where they can continue to hurt others.
What are the vile programs?Well, bless your black heart and all the bile that bleeds from it in the name of your endless destructive Communist envy. Don’t worry, real communism hasn’t been tried yet, the similarities to absolute oligarchy by party rule over a peasant class aren’t a feature, just a defect… that literally always happens.
But yes, your vile programs should ALL end.
Also, ban abortion, because killing innocent human beings is wrong and a violation of human rights (nothing sociopaths or commies care about obviously), and your irrational bigotry against the unborn is unjustifiable and scientifically invalid.
Peace out.
Total bullshit.Neonatal checkups, food, vitamins and drugs, actual help with the birth, post natal care, diapers. they do plenty.
The women can always walk away in States with abortion on demand.
Are you saying these women are too dumb to make up their own minds?
Why does anything to do with pregnancy when it comes to healthcare have to include access to abortion?
How about at every abortion clinic law requires a pro life person to be allowed to be in the waiting room?
I think we need to know what your claim is...Nice... too bad you don't have credible statistics for that.
You kind of have your figures in reverse. Most of those men are in jail for other things, not back payment of child support.
Why are we still putting people in jail for unpaid child support?
Without data to support the practice, it’s becoming harder to justify its existence. Lots of Chicagoans are in Cook County jail for failure to pay child support. How many? We don’t really...www.chicagoadvocatelegal.com
Wow. Nobody said anything close that. You ran from my point like Usain Bolt. If you want to discuss things like a big boy, you need to clarify things.If you need to get a woman drunk to get lucky, that's on you.
The thing is a sizable portion of this country thinks otherwise, that once that life starts, the government has a responsibility to protect itr.
They care, what they don't think is that government should coddle grown adults with taxpayer money.
Plenty of pregnancy crisis centers out there, you know the ones Warren wants shut down, that provide pre and post natal services to women.
Plenty of charities out there as well.
I support bans after 16 weeks or so, with exceptions only for the life of the mother.
And it would be a State legislature, i.e. the people making the choice.
I think we need to know what your claim is...
Are thousands.. tens of thousands.. hundreds of thousands... possibly millions of men put into jail for not paying child support?
If it's thousands, or tens of thousands... is that "barely" happening? And if so, why do you not care, and since it affects so many people, it bolsters my point that while women can have 100% control of if a child is born and thus control a man's future.. a man should legally be able to take control of his life choices and have a "financial abortion".
Wow. Nobody said anything close that. You ran from my point like Usain Bolt. If you want to discuss things like a big boy, you need to clarify things.
Then until they are willing to put their money where their mouths are, they should shut up.
Frankly, leaving ANYTHING up to a State Legislature is a bad idea. Have you met the kinds of clowns who get elected to state legislatures?
Which has nothing to do with our debate. We aren't arguing data sets, at least I'm not. I don't care about the opinions of people not here to express them themselves.No, we can't. all data has to be included, and they are part of the set.
Or poor and uneducated.First, anyone over the age of 18 who doesn't know what birth control is is either Amish or very very orthodox jewish. 2nd lets leave kids out of this. I would reason that over 90% of the time BC isn't used because people just don't feel like using it.
Which is a reflection of the majorities opinion rather than your opinion which is all in I'm interested in.The law is an extension of the will of society as a whole, as long as it is properly implemented.
Which has nothing to do with our debate. We aren't arguing data sets, at least I'm not. I don't care about the opinions of people not here to express them themselves.
Or poor and uneducated.
Which is a reflection of the majorities opinion rather than your opinion which is all in I'm interested in.
They can say whatever they want, and vote however they want, which I know burns you because you would LOVE to force them to say otherwise and vote otherwise, usually via government intimidation and force.
Dude, I believe in a women's right to determine her reproductive choices.I’ve no interest in indulging your blatantly off-topic and obvious sexism and racism. I will just note that your bigotry makes sense with your bigoted abortion stance.
Dude, I believe in a women's right to determine her reproductive choices.
I know that a vagina is the muscular tube leading from the external genitals to the cervix of the uterus in women.Dude, you believe a vagina is a license to kill and if you have a kid to target for death in the first place you have already “chosen” to “reproduce.”
Boi, your christian support for white male superiority
Yeah, I can assume that a white man like you would know about girl/women in a crisis pregnancy situation.
Sure
