Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

[thanatos144]

Hey dumb ass.. the rich do pay more.

True. But the percentage of the total is MUCH less.

Not true. Not only do the rich pay more, the percentage of the total is also higher.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each. This is one of many stunning revelations in new IRS data that deserves a thorough airing in this year's election campaign.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

It's horrible when rich people obey the tax laws.

Like GE and all of obama's backers?

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Hey dumb ass.. the rich do pay more.

True. But the percentage of the total is MUCH less.

Not true. Not only do the rich pay more, the percentage of the total is also higher.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each. This is one of many stunning revelations in new IRS data that deserves a thorough airing in this year's election campaign.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

It's horrible when rich people obey the tax laws.

Like GE and all of obama's backers?

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Yeah, Obama's green energy corporate welfare for GE is the law.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, capitalists should be taxed according to their capital, under any form of Capitalism.

Just because you are jealous doesn't mean they have to pay

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why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

 

[thanatos144]

Yes, capitalists should be taxed according to their capital, under any form of Capitalism.

Just because you are jealous doesn't mean they have to pay

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why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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[danielpalos]

Yes, capitalists should be taxed according to their capital, under any form of Capitalism.

Just because you are jealous doesn't mean they have to pay

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why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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Some on the left know we merely need sufficient socialism to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare as wisely enumerated by our Founding Fathers.

 

[thanatos144]

Just because you are jealous doesn't mean they have to pay

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why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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Some on the left know we merely need sufficient socialism to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare as wisely enumerated by our Founding Fathers.

The founders were not socialists like you

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[danielpalos]

why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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Some on the left know we merely need sufficient socialism to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare as wisely enumerated by our Founding Fathers.

The founders were not socialists like you

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They knew that socialism requires a social contract and social morals for free in a Constitution.

 

[thanatos144]

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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Some on the left know we merely need sufficient socialism to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare as wisely enumerated by our Founding Fathers.

The founders were not socialists like you

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They knew that socialism requires a social contract and social morals for free in a Constitution.

Go learn some history you moron

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[danielpalos]

are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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Some on the left know we merely need sufficient socialism to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare as wisely enumerated by our Founding Fathers.

The founders were not socialists like you

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They knew that socialism requires a social contract and social morals for free in a Constitution.

Go learn some history you moron

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i have; why do you think i don't resort to fallacies; like you.

 

[RKMBrown]

Hey dumb ass.. the rich do pay more.

True. But the percentage of the total is MUCH less.

Not true. Not only do the rich pay more, the percentage of the total is also higher.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each. This is one of many stunning revelations in new IRS data that deserves a thorough airing in this year's election campaign.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

It's horrible when rich people obey the tax laws.

You're a dumb ass lying piece of shit.

 

[Dad2three]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

Flat tax now and forever. Is patently unfair to tax more just because you're wealthier. Everything else in our legal system loves to boast how we're everyone treated equally and fairly, then the tax code comes up and it's anything but equal and fair.

Weird, the US has had progressive taxation since the founding. You prefer going to a regressive tax system?

Think the middle class and poor would have a harder or easier time paying the "FAIR" tax (30%) than millionaires paying the 30%?

 

[Dad2three]

Yes, capitalists should be taxed according to their capital, under any form of Capitalism.

Just because you are jealous doesn't mean they have to pay

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why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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Yes, BECAUSE those "job creators" made their money in a closed loop, without the help of society or Gov't subsidy/help!

 

[RKMBrown]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

Flat tax now and forever. Is patently unfair to tax more just because you're wealthier. Everything else in our legal system loves to boast how we're everyone treated equally and fairly, then the tax code comes up and it's anything but equal and fair.

Weird, the US has had progressive taxation since the founding. You prefer going to a regressive tax system?

Think the middle class and poor would have a harder or easier time paying the "FAIR" tax (30%) than millionaires paying the 30%?

No dumb ass. They did not have progressive income tax since the founding. Have you ever been right about anything?

 

[Dad2three]

Hey dumb ass.. the rich do pay more.

True. But the percentage of the total is MUCH less.

Not true. Not only do the rich pay more, the percentage of the total is also higher.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each. This is one of many stunning revelations in new IRS data that deserves a thorough airing in this year's election campaign.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.

The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

It's horrible when rich people obey the tax laws.

Like GE and all of obama's backers?

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Yes, Obama wrote the tax laws *shaking head*

Obama did this too right:


Hypocrites: Fox Attacks GE Over Tax Dodge, But News Corp. Did The Same


Hypocrites: Fox Attacks GE Over Tax Dodge, But News Corp. Did The Same*

 

[Dad2three]

Yes, capitalists should be taxed according to their capital, under any form of Capitalism.

Just because you are jealous doesn't mean they have to pay

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why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk

are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

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SOURCE of your BS premise, even the "FAIR" Tax at 30% would bring in less revenues!

 

[easyt65]

The top 20% of wage earners / those who pay taxes paid 84% of all the taxes in this country.
The top 10% of wage earners / those who pay income taxes paid a reported 68% of all taxes in this country.
Currently 53% of Americans pay any income taxes.
Approx 46.4 percent of U.S. households did / do NOT pay federal income taxes at all

WHY should Americans who make more have to pay more? What ever happened to 'everyone needs to pay their FAIR SHARE?' Jealousy and laziness is not a good reason to force people who do work hard to pay more money (their share AND yours)!

The current tax system is absolute B$. Billion-dollar companies pay little to no taxes
Obama administration personnel, Al Sharpton, Charlie Rangel, Ex-head of the treasury Timmy Geithner...all paid no taxes (tax evasion)

A 'Flat' or 'Fair' tax is needed. Everyone needs to pay their fair share - EVERYONE.

Also, if you pay NO taxes in this country, you should have NO SAY in how the country is run, ie no right to vote. A famous quote (Jefferson/Franklin?) states that a country is lost when there are more people NOT paying taxes than there are that do, when a nation realizes it can simply vote itself more 'free money'. Those who are working and paying taxes become the 'slaves' of those not working / paying taxes, who receive the tax-payer funded benefits for which they have not worked / earned. Sorry - you don't 'have any skin in the game', you are not paying taxes, then you should have no say in how the 'adults' who are being productive and who are working and paying taxes to support your existence run the country. (IMO)

 

[Dad2three]

why claim you believe in Capitalism.

Why do you believe in theft?

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are you soo Socialist, you want Government for free?

Why does government have to steal from my income my property to survive? A very small consumption tax would work.... of course we would have to cut giant swaths of welfare from the federal spending

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk

Some on the left know we merely need sufficient socialism to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare as wisely enumerated by our Founding Fathers.

The founders were not socialists like you

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Weird, The Founders got rid of that "small States right" thing the Articles of Confederation FOR the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T Constitution!

Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798

Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798





Our Socialist Founding Fathers

In that cherished document, the Founding Fathers demanded socialism. Section 8 of Article I, for example, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads." That same Section also authorizes Congress "To raise and support Armies," and even "To provide and maintain a Navy." Although the text does not preclude privatization of these public institutions indeed, they continue to include entrepreneurial elements to this day the Framers understood that they would certainly have public, social elements as well


. Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams — among others — all signed this document. They agreed that the new national government would facilitate communication and defense through taxation. They agreed that these essential services would not have to be purchased on the open market. They agreed that these services would not be limited to those who could pay fair market value.

The author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson (who skipped the Constitutional Convention in favor of traipsing off to Paris during that hot summer in 1787), also supported the fledgling Nation's foray into socialism. Perhaps the greatest of all of America's socialized institutions, the Nation's modern highway system, was begun in 1806 by then-President Jefferson's authorization of the Cumberland (National) Road. Transportation, too, was deemed to be one of the Nation's essential services that could not be relegated to private industry.

The Congress did President Jefferson one better. It socialized the great bulk of America's navigable waterways in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. The founding generation recognized early on that the national government needed the power regulate interstate commerce ”this was written into Article I of the 1787 Constitution”and waterways provided the most important channel of commerce. The national government, using this authority, opened America's internal waterways to commerce. These immense "social" highways proved a boon to entrepreneurial activities (and perhaps saved the Nation).

Communication, transportation and mutual defense provide only the most obvious examples of the Founding Father's interests in socialized institutions.

Of course, the Founding generation did not believe that every human endeavor benefited from governmental competition. The founding generation's socialism only went so far. The Founders believed in private enterprise.

But it was not long before the Founders' sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters, discovered the benefits of extending socialism beyond communication, transportation and national defense. Libraries, fire protection, police protection and education were all socialized to some extent in the nineteenth century. None of these developments replaced private enterprise they merely insured that more Americans reaped the benefits.

JURIST - Our Socialist Founding Fathers

 

[Dad2three]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

Flat tax now and forever. Is patently unfair to tax more just because you're wealthier. Everything else in our legal system loves to boast how we're everyone treated equally and fairly, then the tax code comes up and it's anything but equal and fair.

Weird, the US has had progressive taxation since the founding. You prefer going to a regressive tax system?

Think the middle class and poor would have a harder or easier time paying the "FAIR" tax (30%) than millionaires paying the 30%?

No dumb ass. They did not have progressive income tax since the founding. Have you ever been right about anything?

Weird, HOW DID THE FEDERAL GOV'T GET FUNDED BUBBA? Please tell me?

Hint TARIFFS, who buys stuff from overseas at the time? Hint THE RICH

Founding Fathers wanted to "Spread the Wealth"

Founding Fathers wanted to "Spread the Wealth" (UPDATED)

 

[Dad2three]

The top 20% of wage earners / those who pay taxes paid 84% of all the taxes in this country.
The top 10% of wage earners / those who pay income taxes paid a reported 68% of all taxes in this country.
Currently 53% of Americans pay any income taxes.
Approx 46.4 percent of U.S. households did / do NOT pay federal income taxes at all

WHY should Americans who make more have to pay more? What ever happened to 'everyone needs to pay their FAIR SHARE?' Jealousy and laziness is not a good reason to force people who do work hard to pay more money (their share AND yours)!

The current tax system is absolute B$. Billion-dollar companies pay little to no taxes
Obama administration personnel, Al Sharpton, Charlie Rangel, Ex-head of the treasury Timmy Geithner...all paid no taxes (tax evasion)

A 'Flat' or 'Fair' tax is needed. Everyone needs to pay their fair share - EVERYONE.

Also, if you pay NO taxes in this country, you should have NO SAY in how the country is run, ie no right to vote. A famous quote (Jefferson/Franklin?) states that a country is lost when there are more people NOT paying taxes than there are that do, when a nation realizes it can simply vote itself more 'free money'. Those who are working and paying taxes become the 'slaves' of those not working / paying taxes, who receive the tax-payer funded benefits for which they have not worked / earned. Sorry - you don't 'have any skin in the game', you are not paying taxes, then you should have no say in how the 'adults' who are being productive and who are working and paying taxes to support your existence run the country. (IMO)

Oh conflating INCOME taxes which is 25% of ALL Gov't revenues is being conflated with "all taxes"? lol

It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

That's really what the American tax system looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans paying between 25 percent and 30 percent of their income -- which is, by the way, a lot more the 13.9 percent Mitt Romney paid in 2011

The one tax graph you really need to know

JUST IGNORE IT AGAIN BUUBA, IT'S ALL YOU HAVE!
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[Dad2three]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

Flat tax now and forever. Is patently unfair to tax more just because you're wealthier. Everything else in our legal system loves to boast how we're everyone treated equally and fairly, then the tax code comes up and it's anything but equal and fair.

Weird, the US has had progressive taxation since the founding. You prefer going to a regressive tax system?

Think the middle class and poor would have a harder or easier time paying the "FAIR" tax (30%) than millionaires paying the 30%?

No dumb ass. They did not have progressive income tax since the founding. Have you ever been right about anything?

WHO SAID INCOME TAX DUMBASS? I know it was the PROGRESSIVE Abe who wanted and gave US the first one, to pay for a war the CONservative CONfederates States of AmeriKKKa started! Oh wait, a GOPer (PROGRESSIVE HOWEVER), WANTED TO FUND A WAR???