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In my opinion, it is not a question of paying Taxes but a question of Pareto Optimal implementation of any public policy scheme.
The social Power to Tax is delegated by the People via our Social Contracts and supreme laws of the land.
unfortunately, this issue requires social Powers that may be even mightier than the fist or the sword; the word and the Pen.In my opinion, it is not a question of paying Taxes but a question of Pareto Optimal implementation of any public policy scheme.
The social Power to Tax is delegated by the People via our Social Contracts and supreme laws of the land.
David Carradine
.I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.
Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.
You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.
The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.
The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.
So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.
That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.
In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).
You made a stupid claim. Why it matters to you, I don't give damn. It was wrong. Now you try to deflect by trying to be some self righteous ass.
We are forced, glad to show you that you were wrong. Take care nutter.
It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
Government is force; why not become a better Angel on Earth who has not the need for the Expense of Government with social morals for free?You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.
The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.
The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.
So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.
That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.
In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).
You made a stupid claim. Why it matters to you, I don't give damn. It was wrong. Now you try to deflect by trying to be some self righteous ass.
We are forced, glad to show you that you were wrong. Take care nutter.
It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
Like taxes aren't forced? :Lol: Nutter.
.I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.
Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.
Ronald Reagan thought this was a good idea. When he pushed to have rates reduced to 28%, the capital gains rate was 28% also. It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
.I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.
Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.
Ronald Reagan thought this was a good idea. When he pushed to have rates reduced to 28%, the capital gains rate was 28% also. It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
Reducing those rates was a great idea.
.I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.
Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.
Ronald Reagan thought this was a good idea. When he pushed to have rates reduced to 28%, the capital gains rate was 28% also. It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
Reducing those rates was a great idea.
As they reduced the capital gains rate, they increased the income tax rate. This helped the wealthy out and hurt the middle class. Long term investment is currently considered over one year. That is absurd. If you have a substantial gain that only takes a bit over one year, why should it be considered anything other than earned income? Longer term gains are a different story.
.They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.
Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.
Ronald Reagan thought this was a good idea. When he pushed to have rates reduced to 28%, the capital gains rate was 28% also. It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
Reducing those rates was a great idea.
As they reduced the capital gains rate, they increased the income tax rate. This helped the wealthy out and hurt the middle class. Long term investment is currently considered over one year. That is absurd. If you have a substantial gain that only takes a bit over one year, why should it be considered anything other than earned income? Longer term gains are a different story.
As they reduced the capital gains rate, they increased the income tax rate.
They didn't raise the income tax rate because they lowered the cap gains rate.
I agree, Bush I, Clinton and Obama shouldn't have hiked taxes.
Drop the top rate back to 28%.
Drop the corporate tax rate to 20%.
.Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.
Ronald Reagan thought this was a good idea. When he pushed to have rates reduced to 28%, the capital gains rate was 28% also. It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
It wasn't until later that everyone thought it to be such a great idea to reduce those rates.
Reducing those rates was a great idea.
As they reduced the capital gains rate, they increased the income tax rate. This helped the wealthy out and hurt the middle class. Long term investment is currently considered over one year. That is absurd. If you have a substantial gain that only takes a bit over one year, why should it be considered anything other than earned income? Longer term gains are a different story.
As they reduced the capital gains rate, they increased the income tax rate.
They didn't raise the income tax rate because they lowered the cap gains rate.
I agree, Bush I, Clinton and Obama shouldn't have hiked taxes.
Drop the top rate back to 28%.
Drop the corporate tax rate to 20%.
I have no problem dropping the corporate tax rate to 20%. The problem is that tax revenue must come from somewhere or we will continue with very large deficits. Discretionary spending is down to less than 1/3 of the budget, meaning cutting spending is not going to save much, especially when much of that spending actually helps the economy. Poor people can't pay the bulk of the taxes. Those have to come from the middle class and the wealthy, and yes, the wealthy should pay more than the middle class.
No deduction. Stop making all of us pay your bills.He shouldn't what, be allowed to deduct his COGS? Are you really suggesting that a biz with a 2% profit margin be made to pay a 20% flat tax, thus incurring an 18% loss on every sale? Really?
tell that to the Right; i already know they Only have a problem with Socialism, when the least wealthy may benefit.
You have no idea what you are writing about...It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
Government is force; why not become a better Angel on Earth who has not the need for the Expense of Government with social morals for free?That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.
In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).
You made a stupid claim. Why it matters to you, I don't give damn. It was wrong. Now you try to deflect by trying to be some self righteous ass.
We are forced, glad to show you that you were wrong. Take care nutter.
It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
Like taxes aren't forced? :Lol: Nutter.
Government is force; why not become a better Angel on Earth who has not the need for the Expense of Government with social morals for free?You made a stupid claim. Why it matters to you, I don't give damn. It was wrong. Now you try to deflect by trying to be some self righteous ass.
We are forced, glad to show you that you were wrong. Take care nutter.
It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
Like taxes aren't forced? :Lol: Nutter.
Sorry, that was not the point. If you had been paying attention, Wry made a claim that taxes were not forced, he was proven wrong. Thanks for concurring that taxes are forced.
Not sure what an angel on earth is but it sounds like you have been hitting your crack pipe again.
tell that to the Right; i already know they Only have a problem with Socialism, when the least wealthy may benefit.Why shouldn't tax rates be based on capital worth, not social worth, under any form of Capitalism?
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "ANY FORM OF CAPITALISM"
IN THE US WE HAVE FASCISM WHICH IS A FORM OF SOCIALISM.
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enforceGovernment is force; why not become a better Angel on Earth who has not the need for the Expense of Government with social morals for free?It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
Like taxes aren't forced? :Lol: Nutter.
Sorry, that was not the point. If you had been paying attention, Wry made a claim that taxes were not forced, he was proven wrong. Thanks for concurring that taxes are forced.
Not sure what an angel on earth is but it sounds like you have been hitting your crack pipe again.
Wrong, not really. But if it makes you feel good to want others to believe you've proved something, more power to you. You seem to desperately need it.
Force:
the definition of force
Your claim and that of the Libertarian set that taxes are force is to frame force into an emotion laden argument. I won't explain again the nuances of force beyond posting a dictionary definition; I have a problem with the use of words used as weapons to justify an ideology, a practice quite common among members of the crazy right wing.
you say that until you cry "nanny, State, please bail me" out with the (other) Peoples Tax monies.tell that to the Right; i already know they Only have a problem with Socialism, when the least wealthy may benefit.
The capitalist idea is for the least wealthy to benefit from the fruit of their labor ... not from the labor of others.
to me, it just means i have already acquired and possessed a clue and a Cause, you haven't.Government is force; why not become a better Angel on Earth who has not the need for the Expense of Government with social morals for free?You made a stupid claim. Why it matters to you, I don't give damn. It was wrong. Now you try to deflect by trying to be some self righteous ass.
We are forced, glad to show you that you were wrong. Take care nutter.
It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
Like taxes aren't forced? :Lol: Nutter.
Sorry, that was not the point. If you had been paying attention, Wry made a claim that taxes were not forced, he was proven wrong. Thanks for concurring that taxes are forced.
Not sure what an angel on earth is but it sounds like you have been hitting your crack pipe again.
