Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
To the rich its just a game. They want to pay less even if they pay more lobbying to accomplish more.

That is because the rich Congressman writes the bill for,the rich.

Congress is the only ones that can change the lobbying rules. They can change the tax laws and they can change the way Wall St. Interacts with them. They won't do a damn thing. The reason, they need money to get re-elected. Who is going to vote against their best interest.
Why did the politicians of yesterday pass the tax laws that have recently been repealed? Seems to me our government has been taken over the last 30 years. Politics has changed our government our country has been taken over by the rich. This country used to be for we the people now its for them the Rich. Glad you're finally starting to realize that. This started on Reagan's watch and yes even Clinton and Obama are owned. We all are.
 
Frigid prattles on his Marxist dogma while claiming not to be a Democrat, you won't get far

Wow, I'd have preferred you trying to insult me in a better manner than this. Just going for the "He's a marxist" is hardly unique from the right's perspective.

No, I'm not a Marxist at all.
Also, no, I'm not a Democrat either.

But when has this ever stopped you people from flinging the shit?
I don't belong to any organized political parties either. I'm a Democrat
 
I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
To the rich its just a game. They want to pay less even if they pay more lobbying to accomplish more.

That is because the rich Congressman writes the bill for,the rich.

Congress is the only ones that can change the lobbying rules. They can change the tax laws and they can change the way Wall St. Interacts with them. They won't do a damn thing. The reason, they need money to get re-elected. Who is going to vote against their best interest.
Why did the politicians of yesterday pass the tax laws that have recently been repealed? Seems to me our government has been taken over the last 30 years. Politics has changed our government our country has been taken over by the rich. This country used to be for we the people now its for them the Rich. Glad you're finally starting to realize that. This started on Reagan's watch and yes even Clinton and Obama are owned. We all are.

Finally? Lol! I've been saying this since Clinton and Congress allowed people to remortgage their homes at 125% over the worth. I saw 2008 coming in the mid 90's.
 
I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.
To the rich its just a game. They want to pay less even if they pay more lobbying to accomplish more.

That is because the rich Congressman writes the bill for,the rich.

Congress is the only ones that can change the lobbying rules. They can change the tax laws and they can change the way Wall St. Interacts with them. They won't do a damn thing. The reason, they need money to get re-elected. Who is going to vote against their best interest.
Why did the politicians of yesterday pass the tax laws that have recently been repealed? Seems to me our government has been taken over the last 30 years. Politics has changed our government our country has been taken over by the rich. This country used to be for we the people now its for them the Rich. Glad you're finally starting to realize that. This started on Reagan's watch and yes even Clinton and Obama are owned. We all are.

Finally? Lol! I've been saying this since Clinton and Congress allowed people to remortgage their homes at 125% over the worth. I saw 2008 coming in the mid 90's.
The bust cycle or the lowest unemployment rates in recent memory during that administration?
 
Why anyone would want to keep the current system of taxation is beyond me. Many posts ago I stated the KISS Principle.
Keep It Simple Stupid.

Our tax laws are too danged complicated. The system needs to simplified and get rid of the 70k pages of rules and regulations that have been put their to abuse the system. Get rid of and replace it with a simplified system is what we need. That makes it harder to cheat the system, and makes it easier for everyone to file and not have to hire the CPA's to do your taxes.

Keep it Simple. Repeal the whole code and replace it.
 
Why anyone would want to keep the current system of taxation is beyond me. Many posts ago I stated the KISS Principle.
Keep It Simple Stupid.

Our tax laws are too danged complicated. The system needs to simplified and get rid of the 70k pages of rules and regulations that have been put their to abuse the system. Get rid of and replace it with a simplified system is what we need. That makes it harder to cheat the system, and makes it easier for everyone to file and not have to hire the CPA's to do your taxes.

Keep it Simple. Repeal the whole code and replace it.

Except it will never happen. Politicians from both sides have been talking about the same thing for decades. Yet, no matter who gets in, nobody touches the tax code. If anything, they add more to it and make it even more confusing and complicated.
 
Why anyone would want to keep the current system of taxation is beyond me. Many posts ago I stated the KISS Principle.
Keep It Simple Stupid.

Our tax laws are too danged complicated. The system needs to simplified and get rid of the 70k pages of rules and regulations that have been put their to abuse the system. Get rid of and replace it with a simplified system is what we need. That makes it harder to cheat the system, and makes it easier for everyone to file and not have to hire the CPA's to do your taxes.

Keep it Simple. Repeal the whole code and replace it.

Except it will never happen. Politicians from both sides have been talking about the same thing for decades. Yet, no matter who gets in, nobody touches the tax code. If anything, they add more to it and make it even more confusing and complicated.

Yet, no matter who gets in, nobody touches the tax code.

Reagan massively simplified it in the 1986 Tax Reform.
 
Why anyone would want to keep the current system of taxation is beyond me. Many posts ago I stated the KISS Principle.
Keep It Simple Stupid.

Our tax laws are too danged complicated. The system needs to simplified and get rid of the 70k pages of rules and regulations that have been put their to abuse the system. Get rid of and replace it with a simplified system is what we need. That makes it harder to cheat the system, and makes it easier for everyone to file and not have to hire the CPA's to do your taxes.

Keep it Simple. Repeal the whole code and replace it.


Part of why it is so complicated is because tax avoiders are always using loopholes......
but also part of it is laws passed to CREATE loopholes....so I would say youre right in part.

A number of years ago when I was working a construction job, we had to disrupt, a bit, the traffic by a convenience store. The owner bellyached and complained about all the lost business so that finally my boss who worked for the state agreed to pay for new paving for his lot, but you just know that this same guy was one always complaining about the government spending too much money.....but when he gets the chance to gouge the taxpayer he goes for it full tilt.....This is how I imagine most of those on here complaining about high taxes are....hypocrites.
 
Why anyone would want to keep the current system of taxation is beyond me. Many posts ago I stated the KISS Principle.
Keep It Simple Stupid.

Our tax laws are too danged complicated. The system needs to simplified and get rid of the 70k pages of rules and regulations that have been put their to abuse the system. Get rid of and replace it with a simplified system is what we need. That makes it harder to cheat the system, and makes it easier for everyone to file and not have to hire the CPA's to do your taxes.

Keep it Simple. Repeal the whole code and replace it.


Part of why it is so complicated is because tax avoiders are always using loopholes......
but also part of it is laws passed to CREATE loopholes....so I would say youre right in part.

A number of years ago when I was working a construction job, we had to disrupt, a bit, the traffic by a convenience store. The owner bellyached and complained about all the lost business so that finally my boss who worked for the state agreed to pay for new paving for his lot, but you just know that this same guy was one always complaining about the government spending too much money.....but when he gets the chance to gouge the taxpayer he goes for it full tilt.....This is how I imagine most of those on here complaining about high taxes are....hypocrites.
I just want a simplified code to avoid the BS. The new laws are to create loop holes and nothing more to me.................Those that abuse the loop holes aren't paying the higher tax rates and those being honest are probably paying more..............

Kill the code and redo the whole thing...................whether it's existing system or to the Flat tax that I prefer.
 
Why shouldn't tax rates be based on capital worth, not social worth, under any form of Capitalism?
 
What bullshit. If you can't afford a flat tax then you are robbing all of us what are paying taxes for your own greed

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Never said I couldn't afford it. What I said is that I would have to recoup the loss that I would take. Unfortunately, that loss may have to be paid by others which I wouldn't want to do.

A flat tax is not the utopia in taxation. It has it's positives and it has it's negatives. A progressive consumption tax would be more beneficial. It would not only include income tax so that everybody pays, but all payroll taxes that we currently contribute now.
I personally think all right offs are theft from all of us.... I should not be paying your bills.

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Really? A grocer spends 95% of his revenue on restocking his shelves. Do you really think he should not be able to deduct his expenses and be forced to pay taxes on revenue? Frankly, I think both you and Ray are a bit confused on how this works and are talking past each other.
Oh, and BTW, Ray is not an idiot.
No he shouldn't.

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He shouldn't what, be allowed to deduct his COGS? Are you really suggesting that a biz with a 2% profit margin be made to pay a 20% flat tax, thus incurring an 18% loss on every sale? Really?
No deduction. Stop making all of us pay your bills.

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Never said I couldn't afford it. What I said is that I would have to recoup the loss that I would take. Unfortunately, that loss may have to be paid by others which I wouldn't want to do.

A flat tax is not the utopia in taxation. It has it's positives and it has it's negatives. A progressive consumption tax would be more beneficial. It would not only include income tax so that everybody pays, but all payroll taxes that we currently contribute now.
I personally think all right offs are theft from all of us.... I should not be paying your bills.

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Really? A grocer spends 95% of his revenue on restocking his shelves. Do you really think he should not be able to deduct his expenses and be forced to pay taxes on revenue? Frankly, I think both you and Ray are a bit confused on how this works and are talking past each other.
Oh, and BTW, Ray is not an idiot.
No he shouldn't.

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He shouldn't what, be allowed to deduct his COGS? Are you really suggesting that a biz with a 2% profit margin be made to pay a 20% flat tax, thus incurring an 18% loss on every sale? Really?

Which wouldn't happen. He would only increase the price of his goods to make up the loss.
Then he would ether make it or go out of business.... that's called free market

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Never said I couldn't afford it. What I said is that I would have to recoup the loss that I would take. Unfortunately, that loss may have to be paid by others which I wouldn't want to do.

A flat tax is not the utopia in taxation. It has it's positives and it has it's negatives. A progressive consumption tax would be more beneficial. It would not only include income tax so that everybody pays, but all payroll taxes that we currently contribute now.
I personally think all right offs are theft from all of us.... I should not be paying your bills.

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Really? A grocer spends 95% of his revenue on restocking his shelves. Do you really think he should not be able to deduct his expenses and be forced to pay taxes on revenue? Frankly, I think both you and Ray are a bit confused on how this works and are talking past each other.
Oh, and BTW, Ray is not an idiot.
No he shouldn't.

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He shouldn't what, be allowed to deduct his COGS? Are you really suggesting that a biz with a 2% profit margin be made to pay a 20% flat tax, thus incurring an 18% loss on every sale? Really?
No deduction. Stop making all of us pay your bills.

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No deduction.

What is your definition of deduction?
 
You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.

The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.

The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.

So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.

That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.

In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).

You made a stupid claim. Why it matters to you, I don't give damn. It was wrong. Now you try to deflect by trying to be some self righteous ass.

We are forced, glad to show you that you were wrong. Take care nutter.

It's the socialist idiotology that drives them to post absurd declarations and that same idiotology keeps them from admitting just how absurd those declarations are.

You have no idea what you are writing about. You're simply a parrot, echoing the current meme, aka The RED SCARE.
 
Worked before

One thing we do know is that Supply Side Economics has been a failure
Says the idiot living in the end of progressive economy. every time true capitalism and free marketing is tried more and more people live better lives.... unfortunately assholes like you keep electing people who hate liberty because you are jealous and angry that you have to work you lazy ass

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When has "true Capitalism and free marketing" existed in the US? My guess never, but it was approached during the gilded age and in the decade prior to the Crash of '29.
 

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