So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.

What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.

Immigrants who rely completely on welfare programs or long-term Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.


More commie lies! Participation in the CHIPS program was one on the exclusions to the new rule, as were refugees and people seeking asylum. And the rule was made in accordance with the LAW, it's not something arbitrary dreamed up by the administration. Why do you hate the rule of law?

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No, they're poor and ignorant.

Just want to point out that 'ignorant' means don't know...

I think you mean 'uneducated'...

Aren't you lucky you're not an immigrant?


Immigrants are supposed to be chosen among the very finest in their country and are sent here to be illegals and cheerfully do the jobs that we Americans don't want to do.

Its a slap in the face for them to sit on their ass once they get here and live off the fat of the land and reflects badly on their country

Please just read the fucking article for once...

These are not doing nothing, it is that there jobs are lowly paid...

Does anyone think the best of the Irish were hand picked and sent to America. They were called coffin ships for a reason.

Cholera and Typhus accounted for a great many deaths. Those who died were buried at sea. With death rates commonly reaching 20%, and horror stories of 50% dying, these vessels soon became known as 'Coffin Ships'. After weeks cooped up in these terrible conditions, Irish emigrants arrived in North America.
Illegal aliens are illegal aliens they have no right to be here


Well you fucking idiot why doesn't you read the article... this is about legal immigrants...
well if the legal immigrants have overstayed their visas, that's the right thing to do, right?
 
My grandparents didn't make a lot of money, but they did what they could to earn their own way. Raised chickens, grew fruits and vegetables, took in boarders, whatever they had to do. My grandfather didn't believe in it, so he never went to the doctor ever until he got into his 70's and was finally broken down to do it.

The idea that immigrants have to sponge off of Uncle Sam is absurd.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.



rm Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

Why do they completely rely on welfare why don't they have jobs and pay for themselves? Are they just lazy and expect American taxpayers to fund them and their family?
They don’t completely rely on welfare Lucy. Read the article.



In the discussion of legal immigrants they do pay the same taxes as anyone else in this country.

Legal immigrants have limited access to social programs but within 5 years residence then they will have more access to more programs

Ultimately they are no different than anyone else in regards to welfare
They pay taxes and by 5 years are eligible for welfare programs

granted that prior to the 5 year mark they have very limited access to social programs

with some federal benefit programs, it can be gotten if the recipient has worked 40 quarters with a valid visa.
This also applies to refugees, asylum seekers, and victims of human trafficking or domestic violence have the same eligibility requirements for federal benefits

Otherwise illegal do not have access to these benefits
yet they do pay taxes
 
We on the right love "legal" immigration and if a Democrat tells you otherwise, they are lying to your face or just totally brainwashed.

The last person you should take seriously is someone that claims to be a Democrat.

I don't think people should be able to immigrate legally if they won't make enough to pay federal income taxes. No immigrants that are a net loss to our nation's finances.

You want to send Trump back to Germany?


The Trump family comes from Kallstadt , Germany, just like the Heinz family. That makes Mr. Teresa Heinz (aka John Kerry) virtually President Trump's cousin.

Actually Trump's Grandfather was a criminal in his home country and couldn't return... Just like the grandson he dodged the draft...

The only real President that ever actually dodged the draft was Bill Clinton, and I'm sure he and Hussein are your heroes.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.



rm Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

Why do they completely rely on welfare why don't they have jobs and pay for themselves? Are they just lazy and expect American taxpayers to fund them and their family?
They don’t completely rely on welfare Lucy. Read the article.



In the discussion of legal immigrants they do pay the same taxes as anyone else in this country.

Legal immigrants have limited access to social programs but within 5 years residence then they will have more access to more programs

Ultimately they are no different than anyone else in regards to welfare
They pay taxes and by 5 years are eligible for welfare programs

granted that prior to the 5 year mark they have very limited access to social programs

with some federal benefit programs, it can be gotten if the recipient has worked 40 quarters with a valid visa.
This also applies to refugees, asylum seekers, and victims of human trafficking or domestic violence have the same eligibility requirements for federal benefits

Otherwise illegal do not have access to these benefits
yet they do pay taxes

Their children certainly do. When was the last time you read of a child of an illegal starve to death?

Their children go to our schools they likely are are not paying anything into, on our food stamp or similar programs, get Medicaid which some working Americans can't even get for their children.

If you make an average living, you are going to get everything that was deducted from your paychecks your entire life and more if you live an average lifespan; that is outside your state and local government deductions which provide you with services you used all your life.
 
We on the right love "legal" immigration and if a Democrat tells you otherwise, they are lying to your face or just totally brainwashed.

The last person you should take seriously is someone that claims to be a Democrat.

I don't think people should be able to immigrate legally if they won't make enough to pay federal income taxes. No immigrants that are a net loss to our nation's finances.

You want to send Trump back to Germany?


The Trump family comes from Kallstadt , Germany, just like the Heinz family. That makes Mr. Teresa Heinz (aka John Kerry) virtually President Trump's cousin.

Actually Trump's Grandfather was a criminal in his home country and couldn't return... Just like the grandson he dodged the draft...

The only real President that ever actually dodged the draft was Bill Clinton, and I'm sure he and Hussein are your heroes.
Democrats are total hypocrites but they don't know what that is or have any concept of credibility. For example, They whine about trump Buying an NDA to keep stormy Daniel's quiet but give democrats a total pass for using tax dollars to buy NDAs to hide sex crimes of democrats.
 
I accept your moral argument. Now I have a question for you. Would it or would it not be better for our economy to get rid of those people?

Illegal aliens are required and do pay taxes

They do jobs that most legal will not do or to lazy to do and even when some people are on welfare, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians and others also do well and make money and thus improve the economy

My question to you is should the Statue of Liberty be dismantled

still an oxford study that looks at the effects of immigration in the U.S. between 1850 and 1920 — aka the Age of Mass Migration — and its effect on economy prosperity today. And they found that the counties with more historical immigration have overall higher incomes, less poverty and less unemployment even today

Trump family being a prime example who came from Germany with very little money but look where they are at now
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.



rm Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

Why do they completely rely on welfare why don't they have jobs and pay for themselves? Are they just lazy and expect American taxpayers to fund them and their family?
They don’t completely rely on welfare Lucy. Read the article.



In the discussion of legal immigrants they do pay the same taxes as anyone else in this country.

Legal immigrants have limited access to social programs but within 5 years residence then they will have more access to more programs

Ultimately they are no different than anyone else in regards to welfare
They pay taxes and by 5 years are eligible for welfare programs

granted that prior to the 5 year mark they have very limited access to social programs

with some federal benefit programs, it can be gotten if the recipient has worked 40 quarters with a valid visa.
This also applies to refugees, asylum seekers, and victims of human trafficking or domestic violence have the same eligibility requirements for federal benefits

Otherwise illegal do not have access to these benefits
yet they do pay taxes

Their children certainly do. When was the last time you read of a child of an illegal starve to death?

Their children go to our schools they likely are are not paying anything into, on our food stamp or similar programs, get Medicaid which some working Americans can't even get for their children.

If you make an average living, you are going to get everything that was deducted from your paychecks your entire life and more if you live an average lifespan; that is outside your state and local government deductions which provide you with services you used all your life.

Like I said they still pay taxes

If a child is hungry , I do not have a problem with feeding them and if they are sick I do not have any problem helping them get well

in school they say the pledge of allegiance "one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

what does all mean is it just for all Americans or for all people
 
I accept your moral argument. Now I have a question for you. Would it or would it not be better for our economy to get rid of those people?

Illegal aliens are required and do pay taxes

They do jobs that most legal will not do or to lazy to do and even when some people are on welfare, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians and others also do well and make money and thus improve the economy

My question to you is should the Statue of Liberty be dismantled

still an oxford study that looks at the effects of immigration in the U.S. between 1850 and 1920 — aka the Age of Mass Migration — and its effect on economy prosperity today. And they found that the counties with more historical immigration have overall higher incomes, less poverty and less unemployment even today

Trump family being a prime example who came from Germany with very little money but look where they are at now
Democrats justified aiding and abetting foreign nationals who violate our borders at will by saying exploiting them helps the economy. They hate Americans and say we are to lazy to do those jobs under the table for slave wages. Democrats also hire illegal foreign nationals to Dodge taxes they pass on American citizens.

Democrats whine about foreign election interference while they fight to have undocumented foreign nationals in the census and enable them to vote with motor voter laws.

If Democrat tells you that foreign nationals do vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet them, they are either totally ignorant or lying to your face. You are even worse if you believe one.
 
Democrats also believe that no illegal foreign nationals cross the border and the open spaces, Especially bad people.

This is how brainwashed and or deceitful they are
 
Democrats also believe that only Mexicans Come and go across our border unchecked and unregulated and all of them just come to work.

It's almost like the Democrat party is run by the cartels
 
I accept your moral argument. Now I have a question for you. Would it or would it not be better for our economy to get rid of those people?

Illegal aliens are required and do pay taxes

They do jobs that most legal will not do or to lazy to do and even when some people are on welfare, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians and others also do well and make money and thus improve the economy

My question to you is should the Statue of Liberty be dismantled

still an oxford study that looks at the effects of immigration in the U.S. between 1850 and 1920 — aka the Age of Mass Migration — and its effect on economy prosperity today. And they found that the counties with more historical immigration have overall higher incomes, less poverty and less unemployment even today

Trump family being a prime example who came from Germany with very little money but look where they are at now
Democrats justified aiding and abetting foreign nationals who violate our borders at will by saying exploiting them helps the economy. They hate Americans and say we are to lazy to do those jobs under the table for slave wages. Democrats also hire illegal foreign nationals to Dodge taxes they pass on American citizens.

Democrats whine about foreign election interference while they fight to have undocumented foreign nationals in the census and enable them to vote with motor voter laws.

If Democrat tells you that foreign nationals do vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet them, they are either totally ignorant or lying to your face. You are even worse if you believe one.

Well we do know that Trump companies do hire illegals and last I looked he was a republican since 2011.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.



rm Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

Why do they completely rely on welfare why don't they have jobs and pay for themselves? Are they just lazy and expect American taxpayers to fund them and their family?
They don’t completely rely on welfare Lucy. Read the article.



In the discussion of legal immigrants they do pay the same taxes as anyone else in this country.

Legal immigrants have limited access to social programs but within 5 years residence then they will have more access to more programs

Ultimately they are no different than anyone else in regards to welfare
They pay taxes and by 5 years are eligible for welfare programs

granted that prior to the 5 year mark they have very limited access to social programs

with some federal benefit programs, it can be gotten if the recipient has worked 40 quarters with a valid visa.
This also applies to refugees, asylum seekers, and victims of human trafficking or domestic violence have the same eligibility requirements for federal benefits

Otherwise illegal do not have access to these benefits
yet they do pay taxes

Their children certainly do. When was the last time you read of a child of an illegal starve to death?

Their children go to our schools they likely are are not paying anything into, on our food stamp or similar programs, get Medicaid which some working Americans can't even get for their children.

If you make an average living, you are going to get everything that was deducted from your paychecks your entire life and more if you live an average lifespan; that is outside your state and local government deductions which provide you with services you used all your life.

Like I said they still pay taxes

If a child is hungry , I do not have a problem with feeding them and if they are sick I do not have any problem helping them get well

in school they say the pledge of allegiance "one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

what does all mean is it just for all Americans or for all people
This Democrat is saying what all democrats believe. America is for the entire world to come and go unchecked and unregulated from and receive benefits paid for by the American people
 
I accept your moral argument. Now I have a question for you. Would it or would it not be better for our economy to get rid of those people?

Illegal aliens are required and do pay taxes

They do jobs that most legal will not do or to lazy to do and even when some people are on welfare, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians and others also do well and make money and thus improve the economy

My question to you is should the Statue of Liberty be dismantled

still an oxford study that looks at the effects of immigration in the U.S. between 1850 and 1920 — aka the Age of Mass Migration — and its effect on economy prosperity today. And they found that the counties with more historical immigration have overall higher incomes, less poverty and less unemployment even today

Trump family being a prime example who came from Germany with very little money but look where they are at now


When the Trump family came over to America, the nation had a lot of shit that needed shoveled, and was anxious for immigrants interested in working as shit shovelers.

Other people were needed to work as coolies , to build the railroads, and other hardass industrial jobs.

We use automated equipment to shovel the shit that needs moved today.

So there really isn't a need for penniless, unskilled immigrant mobs to come to America.

What we do need are immigrants like Rupert Murdoch to fill a job as a media mogul, or my ophthalmologist who immigrated from Canada already skilled in area of eye surgery. Skills we need in this country.

The world has really changed.

If we are serious about vetting people upfront, we aren't going to have masses of aliens living off the fat of the land as Welfare Recipients.
 
I accept your moral argument. Now I have a question for you. Would it or would it not be better for our economy to get rid of those people?

Illegal aliens are required and do pay taxes

They do jobs that most legal will not do or to lazy to do and even when some people are on welfare, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians and others also do well and make money and thus improve the economy

My question to you is should the Statue of Liberty be dismantled

still an oxford study that looks at the effects of immigration in the U.S. between 1850 and 1920 — aka the Age of Mass Migration — and its effect on economy prosperity today. And they found that the counties with more historical immigration have overall higher incomes, less poverty and less unemployment even today

Trump family being a prime example who came from Germany with very little money but look where they are at now
Democrats justified aiding and abetting foreign nationals who violate our borders at will by saying exploiting them helps the economy. They hate Americans and say we are to lazy to do those jobs under the table for slave wages. Democrats also hire illegal foreign nationals to Dodge taxes they pass on American citizens.

Democrats whine about foreign election interference while they fight to have undocumented foreign nationals in the census and enable them to vote with motor voter laws.

If Democrat tells you that foreign nationals do vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet them, they are either totally ignorant or lying to your face. You are even worse if you believe one.

Well we do know that Trump companies do hire illegals and last I looked he was a republican since 2011.


Most illegals don't tell legit employers they are illegal , you know.
 
I accept your moral argument. Now I have a question for you. Would it or would it not be better for our economy to get rid of those people?

Illegal aliens are required and do pay taxes

They do jobs that most legal will not do or to lazy to do and even when some people are on welfare, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians and others also do well and make money and thus improve the economy

My question to you is should the Statue of Liberty be dismantled

still an oxford study that looks at the effects of immigration in the U.S. between 1850 and 1920 — aka the Age of Mass Migration — and its effect on economy prosperity today. And they found that the counties with more historical immigration have overall higher incomes, less poverty and less unemployment even today

Trump family being a prime example who came from Germany with very little money but look where they are at now
Democrats justified aiding and abetting foreign nationals who violate our borders at will by saying exploiting them helps the economy. They hate Americans and say we are to lazy to do those jobs under the table for slave wages. Democrats also hire illegal foreign nationals to Dodge taxes they pass on American citizens.

Democrats whine about foreign election interference while they fight to have undocumented foreign nationals in the census and enable them to vote with motor voter laws.

If Democrat tells you that foreign nationals do vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet them, they are either totally ignorant or lying to your face. You are even worse if you believe one.

Well we do know that Trump companies do hire illegals and last I looked he was a republican since 2011.
People who hire illegal immigrants aid and abet them should be punished.

Is that how you justify aiding and abetting foreign nationals violating our porters at will?

Trumps companies hired some in 2011 so everyone in the world is welcome to come and go unchecked and unregulated at will and receive benefits paid for by Americans.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Naw, I think YOU are the pos. How many indigent foreigners have you taken in? Fed? Clothed? Or otherwise cared for?

Imo it should be a federal crime for ANY FOREIGNER to receive aid of any kind other than life saving EMERGENCY care.
Democrats argue that exploiting foreign nationals who come and go unchecked and unregulated at will, for slave wages, is good for the economy... and if you don't like it you're racist.

Legal Minimum Wage is slave labor?
Why pay Foreign nationals here illegally, legal minimum wage?

Most are off the books

...and you have a link that demonstrates that it is democrats who pay illegal immigrants slave wages off the books?
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Naw, I think YOU are the pos. How many indigent foreigners have you taken in? Fed? Clothed? Or otherwise cared for?

Imo it should be a federal crime for ANY FOREIGNER to receive aid of any kind other than life saving EMERGENCY care.
Democrats argue that exploiting foreign nationals who come and go unchecked and unregulated at will, for slave wages, is good for the economy... and if you don't like it you're racist.

Legal Minimum Wage is slave labor?
Why pay Foreign nationals here illegally, legal minimum wage?

Most are off the books

...and you have a link that demonstrates that it is democrats who pay illegal immigrants slave wages off the books?
There is no way to stop all of the diseased illegal aliens, But they should live in the shadows never knowing what the future holds for them if they are going to be here.... and us citizens should be able to take advantage of their illegality.
 

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