Tesla and Panasonic to open a solar cell plant in Buffalo (link) How is this a bad thing?

[Nosmo King]

I was correctly guessing that is what snowflakes would say, that Trump is bribing companies.

I disagree with that bullshit.

Of course I support lower corporate taxes to help spur job growth.

When a city or state is trying to keep a current business there, or trying to attract new businesses to their area, what's the first thing they offer? That's right, tax incentives. Even liberal states have used this method because that's the only one that seems to work.

Libs fail to realize this. It's why I bring up the billions of dollars in tax breaks that Oregon gave to Nike.

Remember too that when Democrats give tax breaks, it's called an investment in our country. When Republicans do the same thing, they are just called tax breaks.

Why are you Trumpers so wrapped up in semantics? Everyone understands incentives, every administration uses them.

Why are snowflakes so wrapped up in whining about Indiana giving $700/year per job in tax incentives to Carrier to keep the factory in that State.

It seems completely reasonable to me. How much would be spent on unemployment and welfare for those 1000 lost jobs? More than $700/year, that's for sure.

It ain't the money. It's the fact that all the jobs weren't saved, yet Trump struts as if they were.

 

[ColonelAngus]

When a city or state is trying to keep a current business there, or trying to attract new businesses to their area, what's the first thing they offer? That's right, tax incentives. Even liberal states have used this method because that's the only one that seems to work.

Libs fail to realize this. It's why I bring up the billions of dollars in tax breaks that Oregon gave to Nike.

Remember too that when Democrats give tax breaks, it's called an investment in our country. When Republicans do the same thing, they are just called tax breaks.

Why are you Trumpers so wrapped up in semantics? Everyone understands incentives, every administration uses them.

Why are snowflakes so wrapped up in whining about Indiana giving $700/year per job in tax incentives to Carrier to keep the factory in that State.

It seems completely reasonable to me. How much would be spent on unemployment and welfare for those 1000 lost jobs? More than $700/year, that's for sure.

It ain't the money. It's the fact that all the jobs weren't saved, yet Trump struts as if they were.

It's a good thing. I am happy for those who will not lose their jobs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you think incentives offered by states amounts to bribes? Is this what you meant when you totaled this thread? Is this the "nad thing"? How do you expect Trump to bring back manufacturing without that card in play?

I was correctly guessing that is what snowflakes would say, that Trump is bribing companies.

I disagree with that bullshit.

Of course I support lower corporate taxes to help spur job growth.

When a city or state is trying to keep a current business there, or trying to attract new businesses to their area, what's the first thing they offer? That's right, tax incentives. Even liberal states have used this method because that's the only one that seems to work.

Libs fail to realize this. It's why I bring up the billions of dollars in tax breaks that Oregon gave to Nike.

Remember too that when Democrats give tax breaks, it's called an investment in our country. When Republicans do the same thing, they are just called tax breaks.

That is simply partisan politics. You can find the same thing going the other way. Pretending only one party is interested in the "common man" is bullshit. That should piss us off. But, instead, it fuels the fighting and distracts us.

Really? So can you tell me one time when Republicans created two different terms for the same action?

And when you state that only one party claims to be for the common man, which party do you speak of?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you think incentives offered by states amounts to bribes? Is this what you meant when you totaled this thread? Is this the "nad thing"? How do you expect Trump to bring back manufacturing without that card in play?

I was correctly guessing that is what snowflakes would say, that Trump is bribing companies.

I disagree with that bullshit.

Of course I support lower corporate taxes to help spur job growth.

When a city or state is trying to keep a current business there, or trying to attract new businesses to their area, what's the first thing they offer? That's right, tax incentives. Even liberal states have used this method because that's the only one that seems to work.

Libs fail to realize this. It's why I bring up the billions of dollars in tax breaks that Oregon gave to Nike.

Remember too that when Democrats give tax breaks, it's called an investment in our country. When Republicans do the same thing, they are just called tax breaks.

Why are you Trumpers so wrapped up in semantics? Everyone understands incentives, every administration uses them.

Yeah........that's kind of the point I was making.

 

[ColonelAngus]

A 20% reduction in the corporate tax rate will be stupendous for growth.

 

[WinterBorn]

I was correctly guessing that is what snowflakes would say, that Trump is bribing companies.

I disagree with that bullshit.

Of course I support lower corporate taxes to help spur job growth.

When a city or state is trying to keep a current business there, or trying to attract new businesses to their area, what's the first thing they offer? That's right, tax incentives. Even liberal states have used this method because that's the only one that seems to work.

Libs fail to realize this. It's why I bring up the billions of dollars in tax breaks that Oregon gave to Nike.

Remember too that when Democrats give tax breaks, it's called an investment in our country. When Republicans do the same thing, they are just called tax breaks.

That is simply partisan politics. You can find the same thing going the other way. Pretending only one party is interested in the "common man" is bullshit. That should piss us off. But, instead, it fuels the fighting and distracts us.

Really? So can you tell me one time when Republicans created two different terms for the same action?

And when you state that only one party claims to be for the common man, which party do you speak of?

Neither party is looking out for the best interests of the common man. To think otherwise is delusional. Both parties spend the time and energy fighting the other party, fund raising, and trying to get more of their people elected.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Now if Trump would just ease those mpg regulations on new cars.

And that would kill the development of alternative powered vehicles. Not the first time this would have happened. In the 1903 Auto Show, there were Diesels, next came the Electrics and Steam. There was one upstart Gasoline powered vehicle. Electric was the second most common powered vehicle. Unfortunately, the research to make the Electric ore acceptable was curtailed and gasoline vehicles expanded. For the next century, the electric powered cars pretty well stopped.

Now, the Electric Car is on the verge of having more than a 400 mile range, gast 30 min charge. In the 70s, the Rare Earth Magnet Motor was invented and that revolutionized many thing including computer drives and even power tools. The problem was, the battery technology was still the same as in the 19th century. Today, the battery has become smaller, more powerful, higher output and faster charge times. Today, we have the battery and the motor. Tesla and Panasonic are a good mix.

BTW, they started construction on a new plant in the Desert of Nevada as well. They are hiring. The catch is, it's in the middle of absolutely nowhere. They are ghoing to have to build houses and shopping centers. Not the first time. During Dam construction (Hoover Dam) they had to do the same thing. It's time to see this again.

WE have made strides and cleaned up a lot of the mess that we made in the late 19th century and the first half of the 20th. We are almost there as long as we keep it going.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

A 20% reduction in the corporate tax rate will be stupendous for growth.

20% of nothing is nothing. The tax rate may be 35% but in reality, due to the loopholes (legal) they are paying less than 12% and sometimes nothing.

Now, tell me again why the change is necessary?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A 20% reduction in the corporate tax rate will be stupendous for growth.

20% of nothing is nothing. The tax rate may be 35% but in reality, due to the loopholes (legal) they are paying less than 12% and sometimes nothing.

Now, tell me again why the change is necessary?

Because those that have to pay those higher rates move out of the country, that's why.

 

[WinterBorn]

Corporate taxes are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay the taxes.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Corporate taxes are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay the taxes.

Yes they do, and in the process, have to increase prices for their products making it almost impossible at times to compete in the world market.

 

[Claudette]

Should provide loads of jobs.

Glad to see it and hope we see lots more just like it.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Corporate taxes are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay the taxes.

This is jibberish.

Jobs are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay for the jobs.

Right?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Now if Trump would just ease those mpg regulations on new cars.

And that would kill the development of alternative powered vehicles. Not the first time this would have happened. In the 1903 Auto Show, there were Diesels, next came the Electrics and Steam. There was one upstart Gasoline powered vehicle. Electric was the second most common powered vehicle. Unfortunately, the research to make the Electric ore acceptable was curtailed and gasoline vehicles expanded. For the next century, the electric powered cars pretty well stopped.

Now, the Electric Car is on the verge of having more than a 400 mile range, gast 30 min charge. In the 70s, the Rare Earth Magnet Motor was invented and that revolutionized many thing including computer drives and even power tools. The problem was, the battery technology was still the same as in the 19th century. Today, the battery has become smaller, more powerful, higher output and faster charge times. Today, we have the battery and the motor. Tesla and Panasonic are a good mix.

BTW, they started construction on a new plant in the Desert of Nevada as well. They are hiring. The catch is, it's in the middle of absolutely nowhere. They are ghoing to have to build houses and shopping centers. Not the first time. During Dam construction (Hoover Dam) they had to do the same thing. It's time to see this again.

WE have made strides and cleaned up a lot of the mess that we made in the late 19th century and the first half of the 20th. We are almost there as long as we keep it going.

You can't force innovation.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Corporate taxes are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay the taxes.

Should we give corporations free fuel and electricity?

 

[WinterBorn]

Corporate taxes are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay the taxes.

This is jibberish.

Jobs are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay for the jobs.

Right?

No, jobs are not an illusion. But they ARE a cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged.

Look at the arguments against raising the minimum wage.

 

[WinterBorn]

Corporate taxes are an illusion. They are part of the cost of doing business, so they are added into the cost charged. Their customers pay the taxes.

Should we give corporations free fuel and electricity?

What did I post that even hinted at that?

 

[WinterBorn]

Now if Trump would just ease those mpg regulations on new cars.

And that would kill the development of alternative powered vehicles. Not the first time this would have happened. In the 1903 Auto Show, there were Diesels, next came the Electrics and Steam. There was one upstart Gasoline powered vehicle. Electric was the second most common powered vehicle. Unfortunately, the research to make the Electric ore acceptable was curtailed and gasoline vehicles expanded. For the next century, the electric powered cars pretty well stopped.

Now, the Electric Car is on the verge of having more than a 400 mile range, gast 30 min charge. In the 70s, the Rare Earth Magnet Motor was invented and that revolutionized many thing including computer drives and even power tools. The problem was, the battery technology was still the same as in the 19th century. Today, the battery has become smaller, more powerful, higher output and faster charge times. Today, we have the battery and the motor. Tesla and Panasonic are a good mix.

BTW, they started construction on a new plant in the Desert of Nevada as well. They are hiring. The catch is, it's in the middle of absolutely nowhere. They are ghoing to have to build houses and shopping centers. Not the first time. During Dam construction (Hoover Dam) they had to do the same thing. It's time to see this again.

WE have made strides and cleaned up a lot of the mess that we made in the late 19th century and the first half of the 20th. We are almost there as long as we keep it going.

You can't force innovation.

You can encourage it and reward it.

 

[bendog]

Now if Trump would just ease those mpg regulations on new cars.

And that would kill the development of alternative powered vehicles. Not the first time this would have happened. In the 1903 Auto Show, there were Diesels, next came the Electrics and Steam. There was one upstart Gasoline powered vehicle. Electric was the second most common powered vehicle. Unfortunately, the research to make the Electric ore acceptable was curtailed and gasoline vehicles expanded. For the next century, the electric powered cars pretty well stopped.

Now, the Electric Car is on the verge of having more than a 400 mile range, gast 30 min charge. In the 70s, the Rare Earth Magnet Motor was invented and that revolutionized many thing including computer drives and even power tools. The problem was, the battery technology was still the same as in the 19th century. Today, the battery has become smaller, more powerful, higher output and faster charge times. Today, we have the battery and the motor. Tesla and Panasonic are a good mix.

BTW, they started construction on a new plant in the Desert of Nevada as well. They are hiring. The catch is, it's in the middle of absolutely nowhere. They are ghoing to have to build houses and shopping centers. Not the first time. During Dam construction (Hoover Dam) they had to do the same thing. It's time to see this again.

WE have made strides and cleaned up a lot of the mess that we made in the late 19th century and the first half of the 20th. We are almost there as long as we keep it going.

You can't force innovation.

Really? You don't think Tesla is govt intervention in private markets?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Now if Trump would just ease those mpg regulations on new cars.

And that would kill the development of alternative powered vehicles. Not the first time this would have happened. In the 1903 Auto Show, there were Diesels, next came the Electrics and Steam. There was one upstart Gasoline powered vehicle. Electric was the second most common powered vehicle. Unfortunately, the research to make the Electric ore acceptable was curtailed and gasoline vehicles expanded. For the next century, the electric powered cars pretty well stopped.

Now, the Electric Car is on the verge of having more than a 400 mile range, gast 30 min charge. In the 70s, the Rare Earth Magnet Motor was invented and that revolutionized many thing including computer drives and even power tools. The problem was, the battery technology was still the same as in the 19th century. Today, the battery has become smaller, more powerful, higher output and faster charge times. Today, we have the battery and the motor. Tesla and Panasonic are a good mix.

BTW, they started construction on a new plant in the Desert of Nevada as well. They are hiring. The catch is, it's in the middle of absolutely nowhere. They are ghoing to have to build houses and shopping centers. Not the first time. During Dam construction (Hoover Dam) they had to do the same thing. It's time to see this again.

WE have made strides and cleaned up a lot of the mess that we made in the late 19th century and the first half of the 20th. We are almost there as long as we keep it going.

You can't force innovation.

Really? You don't think Tesla is govt intervention in private markets?

I think when government fucks too much with the free market it is a bad thing.