Text began coming in to Meadows on January 6th, begging trump to stop the Capitol attack

Newsweek, June 13, 2022:

"In April, 72-year-old Lonnie Coffman of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to four years in prison for bringing loaded guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktail ingredients to Washington on Jan. 6.

A statement by the Department of Justice said Coffman "also carried a loaded handgun and a loaded revolver as he walked around the area that day."

In March 2022, 49-year-old Texan Guy Reffitt, was convicted (among other charges) for being unlawfully present on Capitol grounds while possessing a firearm and transporting firearms during civil disorder.

A Department of Justice indictment from January 2021 also states that Christopher Alberts, Maryland, was found carrying a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6.

Off-duty Drug Enforcement Administration agent Mark Sami Ibrahim, 32, was also indicted by a grand jury for bringing a firearm within the United States Capitol and its grounds.

In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified
"12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."
The thing about listening to those tapes of officers shouting back and forth reporting all the Trump fans with guns was scary, especially the cop recording saying they had people up in trees brandishing AR15S....

It makes sense that capitol police didn't use their guns to stop the riot break in to the capitol now, they likely were aware of all the guns from radio traffick, and didn't want to have a shootout massacre on their hands, at the Capitol of the United States.
 
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"Assclown"?

Poster Martian, is this the right chatroom for you?
A merely informative post on a current news story from this morning's press and that triggers your 'assclown' epithet?
What's up with that?

It could be interpreted.....and I mean no disrespect....but it could be interpreted that you have some unresolved anger issues. Anchored, perhaps, by some grievance, unhappiness, or failure in your life.

For that we all can be sympathetic, but mein freund, you need to settle down a bit, breathe, maybe sign up for a tai chi class or some other meditation technique. And maybe not drink alcohol?

And then, Smollett and Blasey-Ford?
What in this god's green world does either one of them have to do with Don Trump sending armed supporters at our legislators and our Capitol?
What is the connection there, my friend?
Your didn’t post that straight
 
According to the Gossip Girl who wasn't there.
And the secret service top dog in the car, bobby engel, testified to the committee, it was a contentious fight with Trump on whether they would bring him to the Capitol, or whitehouse...after the ellipse rally.

Secret service won out....the whitehouse.... Is where he brought Trump....not the Capitol.
 
Thats what you believe not what you know though right?

Is there any real evidence of any fire arms in the Capital building on January 6th

Otjer than the ones being legalply carried by the Police

No, no one who was armed went inside. Possibly for the same reason many armed attendees wouldn't go to the Ellipse, because they didn't want to go through magnetometers. But there were some outside the Capitol who were armed. Again, a few of them were arrested. I see no reason to believe those 9 were the only ones carrying. They were the only ones who police spotted carrying a firearm.
 
While it is not true that every armed person intends to do harm, in this specific incidence (that white supremacist/Trump rally on January 6th) those people that Trump insisted be allowed to enter with their weapons DID in fact mean to and did do harm.
This is evidenced by the harm that they DID do at The Capitol which is well documented in the records.
Well since you maintain they did intend harm then why didn’t the armed use their arms?
 
He’s not the one who is the crux of her recounting what she was told

My bad.
I had -- obviously in error --- thought that the headline "..the testimony of Pat Cipollone..." was sufficient to clue the cluefull about what the thread would be about.

Communicating can be a challenge, despite the best of intentions. No?


 
The thing about listening to those tapes of officers shouting back and forth reporting all the Trump fans with guns was scary, especially the cop recording saying they had people up in trees brandishing AR15S....

It makes sense that capitol police didn't use their guns to stop the riot break in to the capitol now, they likely were aware of all the guns from radio traffick, and didn't want to have a shootout massacre on their hands, at the Capitol of the United States.

Michael Fanone testified to something along those lines. When they were beating him to within an inch of his life, he said he considered using his firearm; but decided to plead for his life instead because he feared that violent mob would have felt justified in murdering him.
 
No, no one who was armed went inside. Possibly for the same reason many armed attendees wouldn't go to the Ellipse, because they didn't want to go through magnetometers. But there were some outside the Capitol who were armed. Again, a few of them were arrested. I see no reason to believe those 9 were the only ones carrying. They were the only ones who police spotted carrying a firearm.
Not sure why someone breaking into the Capital building would be worried about magnetometers. That said it’s a lot of I think and I believe. We are really short on I know.
 
And the secret service top dog in the car, bobby engel, testified to the committee, it was a contentious fight with Trump on whether they would bring him to the Capitol, or whitehouse...after the ellipse rally.

Secret service won out....the whitehouse.... Is where he brought Trump....not the Capitol.
Wait...so you mean Engle testified that there WAS some kind of altercation in the Presidential vehicle?

Ohhh
 
The thing about listening to those tapes of officers shouting back and forth reporting all the Trump fans with guns was scary, especially the cop recording saying they had people up in trees brandishing AR15S....

It makes sense that capitol police didn't use their guns to stop the riot break in to the capitol now, they likely were aware of all the guns from radio traffick, and didn't want to have a shootout massacre on their hands, at the Capitol of the United States.
They could have closed and locked the doors and called for back up. I don’t think they needed to hold the doors and wave people in.
 
I don't know
lack of cojones maybe?
You know how these wanna-be, weekend warrior types are.
"Proud Boy/Oathkeeper" faux patriots.
They turn to jello when the other side has guns too.
So you claim to have it both ways.
 
"I don’t think they needed to hold the doors and wave people in."
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A clue to the cluefull. Watch this about those "hold-the-door' tropes:



Warning: Strong language. Violent behavior. Threats and injuries.

A strong constitution may be required.

(yes, it's a pun. Duh.)
 
Wait...so you mean Engle testified that there WAS some kind of altercation in the Presidential vehicle?

Ohhh

I haven't seen where he testified to anything other than Trump wanted to be taken to the Capitol but Engel wouldn't allow it.
 
They could have closed and locked the doors and called for back up. I don’t think they needed to hold the doors and wave people in.

Most of the people broke in. At one entrance, they were pulling cops out of the doorway so that they could break in. At another, they were crushing a cop as they tried to break in. At another, they fought with cops defending a tunnel where one cop was dragged out and beaten to within an inch of his life. I suspect the few cops who let them in, did so because there was no keeping that violent mob, which outnumbered police by an estimated 100 to 1 from fighting past them. No doubt they heard other battles raging with police on their radios. There's one video I saw where police abandoned their position behind some doors as the mob was breaking in. The mob literally "escorted" them out of the way and the police allowed it for their own safety. This was a storming of the Capitol. It wasn't by invitation.
 

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