The black view on the 2020 presidential election

[B. Kidd]

Your poll shows that Trump had 15% of the Black Vote when the poll was taken back in September, 2019.

He only got 8% in 2016. If he gets 15% this time; he's almost certainly won the election.

And, similar polls taken more recently than way back in September show his per cent of the Black Vote as high as 33%. Some show more like 20 or 25%---a huge SURE WIN improvement.

That poll doesn't say anything about the black vote and currently black support for trump stays at around 10 percent. Rasmussen polls don't count so just understand that there is no 33 percent black support for trump. So learn this, when whites are happy that 2/3'rds of all blacks don't like a white presidential candidate, you have a problem. When you think 2/3's of blacks not liking you is a good thing, you got problems. When you try manipulating 85 percent dislike into some kind of positive, you've got problems. You've done all this.

What is your "10%" figure based on, other than pure whim, that is?

Gallup polls for the last 3 years. Look white boy, I am black and no matter what, I know more about how blacks do things than you do.

Is that why you have only 3 toes left?

 

[IM2]

This is the consensus of the black community.​

This is racist against blacks when you generalize the entire race as being this fucking ignorant. I KNOW there are freethinking and intelligent blacks out there, so your post is a lie.

No it's not racist. What is racist is how whites like you keep repeating that somehow we are not thinking independently because we oppose trump.

 

[bripat9643]

We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

Blacks have been allowed to vote since 1865, moron.

Wrong. A law was passed that got shot down during the civil rights cases of the 1880's. The right for blacks to vote was determined a state right, not a federal one. So states could deny blacks the right to vote and did. Do not try to argue when you don't know what you're talking about.

Wrong, asshole:

Black suffrage - Wikipedia​

In other countries throughout history, all people including women, were able to obtain the right to vote through the course of national independence. However, black men in the United States did not gain the right to vote until after the Civil War. In 1870, the 15th Amendment was ratified to prohibit states from denying a male citizen the right to vote based on “race, color or previous condition of servitude."​

 

[bripat9643]

Your poll shows that Trump had 15% of the Black Vote when the poll was taken back in September, 2019.

He only got 8% in 2016. If he gets 15% this time; he's almost certainly won the election.

And, similar polls taken more recently than way back in September show his per cent of the Black Vote as high as 33%. Some show more like 20 or 25%---a huge SURE WIN improvement.

That poll doesn't say anything about the black vote and currently black support for trump stays at around 10 percent. Rasmussen polls don't count so just understand that there is no 33 percent black support for trump. So learn this, when whites are happy that 2/3'rds of all blacks don't like a white presidential candidate, you have a problem. When you think 2/3's of blacks not liking you is a good thing, you got problems. When you try manipulating 85 percent dislike into some kind of positive, you've got problems. You've done all this.

What is your "10%" figure based on, other than pure whim, that is?

Gallup polls for the last 3 years. Look white boy, I am black and no matter what, I know more about how blacks do things than you do.

Post the polls, douchebag.

Being black doesn't prove jack shit.

 

[bripat9643]

This is the consensus of the black community.​

This is racist against blacks when you generalize the entire race as being this fucking ignorant. I KNOW there are freethinking and intelligent blacks out there, so your post is a lie.

No it's not racist. What is racist is how whites like you keep repeating that somehow we are not thinking independently because we oppose trump.

You aren't thinking independently because you regurgitate the same exact drek spewed by the fake news media.

 

[Meathead]

Is that why you have only 3 toes left?

God, now he can only count to 13.

 

[BlindBoo]

There s no Obamaphone. But white racists suffering from psychosis who have "forgotten" how much government has given to whites always trying bringing this fake news up.

Lifeline Program for Low-Income Consumers

Since 1985, the Lifeline program has provided a discount on phone service for qualifying low-income consumers to ensure that all Americans have the opportunities and security that phone service brings, including being able to connect to jobs, family and emergency services. Lifeline is part of the Universal Service Fund. The Lifeline program is available to eligible low-income consumers in every state, territory, commonwealth, and on Tribal lands.

Lifeline Program for Low-Income Consumers

More accurately put, it's the Reaganphone. And more whites use them.

I don't recall cellphones in the Reagan era. Free stuff was far more of an Obama thing.

Here you go simp.

"There is a national program that provides low-income people with free or discounted phones, but it was started under George W. Bush, Obama's Republican predecessor.

And the idea for subsidized phone service, notes liberal blog Think Progress, originated under the Ronald Reagan administration after the breakup of AT&T. The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through the nonprofit Universal Service Administrative Company, not through taxpayer revenue.

Why This 'Obama Phone' Ad Is Misleading

But that was just priming the dumb down pump. Trumpublicans will believe any lie, as long as you convince them it will make Liberals cry.

So Republicans helped poor black folks, not Obama.

Got it.

Socialism helped poor folks, period.

Please, I've spent 22 years in a former workers' paradise and have yet to here that from anyone. Socialism just makes sure everyone is poor.

Let me rephrase that to be from an American perspective. This social program helped poor people of every color and didn't cost the tax payers a dime and didn't make anyone poor. You're stupid if you believed the Obamaphone false narrative.

 

[imawhosure]

It is also a fact Obama inherited a depression and that unemployment rose to 10 percent because of Bush and when Obama left office he cut unemployment to less than 5 percent giving trump full employment and record job growth.

Actually, the only thing that saved the economy during Obama's reign was Boehner's Sequestration. On his own, Obama was failing big time. He should get on his knees and thank the Tea Party for rescuing him

The only thng that was up during the holder/obama reign of terror was the knock out game.

Yeah the white police knockout of unarmed blacks.

That's happening less and less , however. Honky Police Officers are doing what they can, more and more, to avoid confrontations with black youths. They realize that young black men are America's official Sacred Cows who can not be questioned.

Bullshit.

Hey, Black people have a tough time here, they really, really, do.

Look at how many are getting killed. IM has a point!

By the way IM, who is killing all these Black people?

Why, other BLACK PEOPLE! So your side are ant-racist-racists-)

Know what, my grandkids are 1/2 Black, I won't allow them to go within 10 mls of a big city. You all just keep aborting and killing each other, and see where that gets you!

 

[Winco]

So its your contention that black voters are really pissed about what Trump did about black unemployment

What EXACTLY did trump do for Black Unemployment?
Yes, it has continued the downward trend set 10 years ago.
But what has trump done?

You don't know, just following the numbers.
Trump certainly doesn't know, and that is hilarious.

Q: "Hey DJT, which policy you enacted reversed the trend on Black Unemployment"?

Disclaimer, I know it is not reversed, just following a 10 year trend.

 

[Polishprince]

I don't recall cellphones in the Reagan era. Free stuff was far more of an Obama thing.

Here you go simp.

"There is a national program that provides low-income people with free or discounted phones, but it was started under George W. Bush, Obama's Republican predecessor.

And the idea for subsidized phone service, notes liberal blog Think Progress, originated under the Ronald Reagan administration after the breakup of AT&T. The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through the nonprofit Universal Service Administrative Company, not through taxpayer revenue.

Why This 'Obama Phone' Ad Is Misleading

But that was just priming the dumb down pump. Trumpublicans will believe any lie, as long as you convince them it will make Liberals cry.

So Republicans helped poor black folks, not Obama.

Got it.

Socialism helped poor folks, period.

Please, I've spent 22 years in a former workers' paradise and have yet to here that from anyone. Socialism just makes sure everyone is poor.

Let me rephrase that to be from an American perspective. This social program helped poor people of every color and didn't cost the tax payers a dime and didn't make anyone poor. You're stupid if you believed the Obamaphone false narrative.

Are you saying that the Obamaphone gal was lying? That Romney didn't suck, bad?

 

[IM2]

We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

Blacks have been allowed to vote since 1865, moron.

Wrong. A law was passed that got shot down during the civil rights cases of the 1880's. The right for blacks to vote was determined a state right, not a federal one. So states could deny blacks the right to vote and did. Do not try to argue when you don't know what you're talking about.

Wrong, asshole:

Black suffrage - Wikipedia​

In other countries throughout history, all people including women, were able to obtain the right to vote through the course of national independence. However, black men in the United States did not gain the right to vote until after the Civil War. In 1870, the 15th Amendment was ratified to prohibit states from denying a male citizen the right to vote based on “race, color or previous condition of servitude."​

No, I am not wrong.
Blacks were supposed to have been given the right to vote by the fifteenth amendment.

The Fifteenth Amendment (Amendment XV) to the United States Constitution prohibits the federal government and each state from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's "race, color, or previous condition of servitude." It was ratified on February 3, 1870, as the third and last of the Reconstruction Amendments.

Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

But alas, the constitution didn't matter to whites.

Minor v. Happersett, U.S. Supreme Court case in which the court ruled unanimously in 1874 that the right of suffrage was not protected by the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

In its decision the Supreme Court declared that the privileges and immunities of citizenship are not defined by the U.S. Constitution; thus, individual states’ enfranchisement of male citizens only was not necessarily a violation of the citizenship rights of women. This finding effectively put an end to attempts to win voting rights for women through court decree. Subsequent efforts in the woman suffrage movement in the United States focused on the revision of voting laws of individual states and on the ratification of a separate amendment to the Constitution.

Minor v. Happersett | law case

Now before the excuses start from the racists about how this only applied to women:

United States v. Reese, 92 U.S. 214 (1876), was a voting rights case in which the United States Supreme Court narrowly construed the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which provides that suffrage for citizens can not be restricted due to race, color or the individual having previously been a slave.

This was the Supreme Court's first voting rights case under the Fifteenth Amendment and the Enforcement Act of 1870. A Kentucky electoral official had refused to register an African‐American's vote in a municipal election and was indicted under two sections of the 1871 act: section 1 required that administrative preliminaries to elections be conducted without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude; section 2 forbade wrongful refusal to register votes where a prerequisite step “required as foresaid” had been omitted.

The Court held that the Fifteenth Amendment did not confer the right of suffrage, but it prohibited exclusion from voting on racial grounds. The justices invalidated the operative section 3 of the Enforcement Act since it did not repeat the amendment's words about race, color, and servitude. They ruled that the section exceeded the scope of the Fifteenth Amendment. This ruling was the grounds for which the Ku Klux Klan was invented, as it provided white southerners with legal reassurance.

United States v. Reese - Wikipedia

This was an 8-1 SCOTUS decision whereby the court decided that,"the 15th amendment did not guarantee the right to vote but it just prevented states from giving preference to one citizen over another on account of race or color." Chief Justice Morrison Waite, a REPUBLICAN.

 

[imawhosure]

This is the consensus of the black community.​

This is racist against blacks when you generalize the entire race as being this fucking ignorant. I KNOW there are freethinking and intelligent blacks out there, so your post is a lie.

No it's not racist. What is racist is how whites like you keep repeating that somehow we are not thinking independently because we oppose trump.

Do you realize how DUMB that statement is, lol!

If we used your logic, every white person in America would have voted against Obama.

You are a RACE HUSTLER! You talk about what BLACK America thinks, instead of what America thinks. We aren't SEGREGATING America by the color of a persons skin, YOU are!

 

[bripat9643]

I don't recall cellphones in the Reagan era. Free stuff was far more of an Obama thing.

Here you go simp.

"There is a national program that provides low-income people with free or discounted phones, but it was started under George W. Bush, Obama's Republican predecessor.

And the idea for subsidized phone service, notes liberal blog Think Progress, originated under the Ronald Reagan administration after the breakup of AT&T. The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through the nonprofit Universal Service Administrative Company, not through taxpayer revenue.

Why This 'Obama Phone' Ad Is Misleading

But that was just priming the dumb down pump. Trumpublicans will believe any lie, as long as you convince them it will make Liberals cry.

So Republicans helped poor black folks, not Obama.

Got it.

Socialism helped poor folks, period.

Please, I've spent 22 years in a former workers' paradise and have yet to here that from anyone. Socialism just makes sure everyone is poor.

Let me rephrase that to be from an American perspective. This social program helped poor people of every color and didn't cost the tax payers a dime and didn't make anyone poor. You're stupid if you believed the Obamaphone false narrative.

Social programs didn't cost the taxpayers a dime?

 

[imawhosure]

This is the consensus of the black community.​

This is racist against blacks when you generalize the entire race as being this fucking ignorant. I KNOW there are freethinking and intelligent blacks out there, so your post is a lie.

No it's not racist. What is racist is how whites like you keep repeating that somehow we are not thinking independently because we oppose trump.

Do you realize how DUMB that statement is, lol!

If we used your logic, every white person in America would have voted against Obama.

You are a RACE HUSTLER! You talk about what BLACK America thinks, instead of what America thinks. We aren't SEGREGATING America by the color of a persons skin, YOU are!

The REAL problem with IM is---------->he is angry dude...…….or maybe dudette who needs an excuse to be angry.

His/her solution?

Because I am Black, therefore I can be-)

If that isn't the sorriest excuse I have heard in years for being an arrogant Leftist, I don't know what is!

 

[bripat9643]

We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

Blacks have been allowed to vote since 1865, moron.

Wrong. A law was passed that got shot down during the civil rights cases of the 1880's. The right for blacks to vote was determined a state right, not a federal one. So states could deny blacks the right to vote and did. Do not try to argue when you don't know what you're talking about.

Wrong, asshole:

Black suffrage - Wikipedia​

In other countries throughout history, all people including women, were able to obtain the right to vote through the course of national independence. However, black men in the United States did not gain the right to vote until after the Civil War. In 1870, the 15th Amendment was ratified to prohibit states from denying a male citizen the right to vote based on “race, color or previous condition of servitude."​

No, I am not wrong.
Blacks were supposed to have been given the right to vote by the fifteenth amendment.

The Fifteenth Amendment (Amendment XV) to the United States Constitution prohibits the federal government and each state from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's "race, color, or previous condition of servitude." It was ratified on February 3, 1870, as the third and last of the Reconstruction Amendments.

Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

But alas, the constitution didn't matter to whites.

Minor v. Happersett, U.S. Supreme Court case in which the court ruled unanimously in 1874 that the right of suffrage was not protected by the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

In its decision the Supreme Court declared that the privileges and immunities of citizenship are not defined by the U.S. Constitution; thus, individual states’ enfranchisement of male citizens only was not necessarily a violation of the citizenship rights of women. This finding effectively put an end to attempts to win voting rights for women through court decree. Subsequent efforts in the woman suffrage movement in the United States focused on the revision of voting laws of individual states and on the ratification of a separate amendment to the Constitution.

Minor v. Happersett | law case

Now before the excuses start from the racists about how this only applied to women:

United States v. Reese, 92 U.S. 214 (1876), was a voting rights case in which the United States Supreme Court narrowly construed the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which provides that suffrage for citizens can not be restricted due to race, color or the individual having previously been a slave.

This was the Supreme Court's first voting rights case under the Fifteenth Amendment and the Enforcement Act of 1870. A Kentucky electoral official had refused to register an African‐American's vote in a municipal election and was indicted under two sections of the 1871 act: section 1 required that administrative preliminaries to elections be conducted without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude; section 2 forbade wrongful refusal to register votes where a prerequisite step “required as foresaid” had been omitted.

The Court held that the Fifteenth Amendment did not confer the right of suffrage, but it prohibited exclusion from voting on racial grounds. The justices invalidated the operative section 3 of the Enforcement Act since it did not repeat the amendment's words about race, color, and servitude. They ruled that the section exceeded the scope of the Fifteenth Amendment. This ruling was the grounds for which the Ku Klux Klan was invented, as it provided white southerners with legal reassurance.

United States v. Reese - Wikipedia

This was an 8-1 SCOTUS decision whereby the court decided that,"the 15th amendment did not guarantee the right to vote but it just prevented states from giving preference to one citizen over another on account of race or color." Chief Justice Morrison Waite, a REPUBLICAN.

Yeah, America isn't perfect. That's all you proved. I am not interested in detailing every last imperfection of our government.

23 African Americans Were Elected to Congress Before the Civil Rights Movement |

 

[okfine]

Trump's 2020 plan to target black, Hispanic and suburban female voters - Axios

 

[BlindBoo]

Here you go simp.

"There is a national program that provides low-income people with free or discounted phones, but it was started under George W. Bush, Obama's Republican predecessor.

And the idea for subsidized phone service, notes liberal blog Think Progress, originated under the Ronald Reagan administration after the breakup of AT&T. The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through the nonprofit Universal Service Administrative Company, not through taxpayer revenue.

Why This 'Obama Phone' Ad Is Misleading

But that was just priming the dumb down pump. Trumpublicans will believe any lie, as long as you convince them it will make Liberals cry.

So Republicans helped poor black folks, not Obama.

Got it.

Socialism helped poor folks, period.

Please, I've spent 22 years in a former workers' paradise and have yet to here that from anyone. Socialism just makes sure everyone is poor.

Let me rephrase that to be from an American perspective. This social program helped poor people of every color and didn't cost the tax payers a dime and didn't make anyone poor. You're stupid if you believed the Obamaphone false narrative.

Are you saying that the Obamaphone gal was lying? That Romney didn't suck, bad?

No I'm saying she's stupid if she believed that. What's next Einstein, that girl that said Obama was gonna pay her rent too?

 

[IM2]

We have so many white experts on how it is to be black here. Funny how none of them have ever lived as a black person. Most have never spent any significant time with blacks. And when it comes to our politics, we get all the assumptions and stupid comments about plantations or misquote of legendary black leaders from the past. Blacks have been able to vote nationwide since 1964. In 1964, blacks voted for Johnson knowing he was a racist, but he was trying to do something about civil rights. Blacks were republicans for years in honor of Lincoln, knowing he was a racist, but he freed the slaves. In every presidential election since 1964 but one, blacks have had to vote for white men who had racism in their past, but no serious candidate blatantly ran on open and naked racism in the democratic party as Reagan, Bush 1 and trump has done in the republican party. So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

Blacks have been allowed to vote since 1865, moron.

Wrong. A law was passed that got shot down during the civil rights cases of the 1880's. The right for blacks to vote was determined a state right, not a federal one. So states could deny blacks the right to vote and did. Do not try to argue when you don't know what you're talking about.

Wrong, asshole:

Black suffrage - Wikipedia​

In other countries throughout history, all people including women, were able to obtain the right to vote through the course of national independence. However, black men in the United States did not gain the right to vote until after the Civil War. In 1870, the 15th Amendment was ratified to prohibit states from denying a male citizen the right to vote based on “race, color or previous condition of servitude."​

No, I am not wrong.
Blacks were supposed to have been given the right to vote by the fifteenth amendment.

The Fifteenth Amendment (Amendment XV) to the United States Constitution prohibits the federal government and each state from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's "race, color, or previous condition of servitude." It was ratified on February 3, 1870, as the third and last of the Reconstruction Amendments.

Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

But alas, the constitution didn't matter to whites.

Minor v. Happersett, U.S. Supreme Court case in which the court ruled unanimously in 1874 that the right of suffrage was not protected by the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

In its decision the Supreme Court declared that the privileges and immunities of citizenship are not defined by the U.S. Constitution; thus, individual states’ enfranchisement of male citizens only was not necessarily a violation of the citizenship rights of women. This finding effectively put an end to attempts to win voting rights for women through court decree. Subsequent efforts in the woman suffrage movement in the United States focused on the revision of voting laws of individual states and on the ratification of a separate amendment to the Constitution.

Minor v. Happersett | law case

Now before the excuses start from the racists about how this only applied to women:

United States v. Reese, 92 U.S. 214 (1876), was a voting rights case in which the United States Supreme Court narrowly construed the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which provides that suffrage for citizens can not be restricted due to race, color or the individual having previously been a slave.

This was the Supreme Court's first voting rights case under the Fifteenth Amendment and the Enforcement Act of 1870. A Kentucky electoral official had refused to register an African‐American's vote in a municipal election and was indicted under two sections of the 1871 act: section 1 required that administrative preliminaries to elections be conducted without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude; section 2 forbade wrongful refusal to register votes where a prerequisite step “required as foresaid” had been omitted.

The Court held that the Fifteenth Amendment did not confer the right of suffrage, but it prohibited exclusion from voting on racial grounds. The justices invalidated the operative section 3 of the Enforcement Act since it did not repeat the amendment's words about race, color, and servitude. They ruled that the section exceeded the scope of the Fifteenth Amendment. This ruling was the grounds for which the Ku Klux Klan was invented, as it provided white southerners with legal reassurance.

United States v. Reese - Wikipedia

This was an 8-1 SCOTUS decision whereby the court decided that,"the 15th amendment did not guarantee the right to vote but it just prevented states from giving preference to one citizen over another on account of race or color." Chief Justice Morrison Waite, a REPUBLICAN.

Yeah, America isn't perfect. That's all you proved. I am not interested in detailing every last imperfection of out government.

23 African Americans Were Elected to Congress Before the Civil Rights Movement |

The damage that imperfection has created in black communities has not been fixed and until it is, showing 23 blacks who were elected to congress before civil, rights is not going to work towards fixing the inequality that white racism has created.

 

[bripat9643]

Blacks have been allowed to vote since 1865, moron.

Wrong. A law was passed that got shot down during the civil rights cases of the 1880's. The right for blacks to vote was determined a state right, not a federal one. So states could deny blacks the right to vote and did. Do not try to argue when you don't know what you're talking about.

Wrong, asshole:

Black suffrage - Wikipedia​

In other countries throughout history, all people including women, were able to obtain the right to vote through the course of national independence. However, black men in the United States did not gain the right to vote until after the Civil War. In 1870, the 15th Amendment was ratified to prohibit states from denying a male citizen the right to vote based on “race, color or previous condition of servitude."​

No, I am not wrong.
Blacks were supposed to have been given the right to vote by the fifteenth amendment.

The Fifteenth Amendment (Amendment XV) to the United States Constitution prohibits the federal government and each state from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's "race, color, or previous condition of servitude." It was ratified on February 3, 1870, as the third and last of the Reconstruction Amendments.

Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

But alas, the constitution didn't matter to whites.

Minor v. Happersett, U.S. Supreme Court case in which the court ruled unanimously in 1874 that the right of suffrage was not protected by the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

In its decision the Supreme Court declared that the privileges and immunities of citizenship are not defined by the U.S. Constitution; thus, individual states’ enfranchisement of male citizens only was not necessarily a violation of the citizenship rights of women. This finding effectively put an end to attempts to win voting rights for women through court decree. Subsequent efforts in the woman suffrage movement in the United States focused on the revision of voting laws of individual states and on the ratification of a separate amendment to the Constitution.

Minor v. Happersett | law case

Now before the excuses start from the racists about how this only applied to women:

United States v. Reese, 92 U.S. 214 (1876), was a voting rights case in which the United States Supreme Court narrowly construed the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which provides that suffrage for citizens can not be restricted due to race, color or the individual having previously been a slave.

This was the Supreme Court's first voting rights case under the Fifteenth Amendment and the Enforcement Act of 1870. A Kentucky electoral official had refused to register an African‐American's vote in a municipal election and was indicted under two sections of the 1871 act: section 1 required that administrative preliminaries to elections be conducted without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude; section 2 forbade wrongful refusal to register votes where a prerequisite step “required as foresaid” had been omitted.

The Court held that the Fifteenth Amendment did not confer the right of suffrage, but it prohibited exclusion from voting on racial grounds. The justices invalidated the operative section 3 of the Enforcement Act since it did not repeat the amendment's words about race, color, and servitude. They ruled that the section exceeded the scope of the Fifteenth Amendment. This ruling was the grounds for which the Ku Klux Klan was invented, as it provided white southerners with legal reassurance.

United States v. Reese - Wikipedia

This was an 8-1 SCOTUS decision whereby the court decided that,"the 15th amendment did not guarantee the right to vote but it just prevented states from giving preference to one citizen over another on account of race or color." Chief Justice Morrison Waite, a REPUBLICAN.

Yeah, America isn't perfect. That's all you proved. I am not interested in detailing every last imperfection of out government.

23 African Americans Were Elected to Congress Before the Civil Rights Movement |

The damage that imperfection has created in black communities has not been fixed and until it is, showing 23 blacks who were elected to congress before civil, rights is not going to work towards fixing the inequality that white racism has created.

Puhleeze. There are no limits one blacks voting.

 

[IM2]

This is the consensus of the black community.​

This is racist against blacks when you generalize the entire race as being this fucking ignorant. I KNOW there are freethinking and intelligent blacks out there, so your post is a lie.

No it's not racist. What is racist is how whites like you keep repeating that somehow we are not thinking independently because we oppose trump.

Do you realize how DUMB that statement is, lol!

If we used your logic, every white person in America would have voted against Obama.

You are a RACE HUSTLER! You talk about what BLACK America thinks, instead of what America thinks. We aren't SEGREGATING America by the color of a persons skin, YOU are!

Wrong. Black concerns are American concerns so I don't have to address my concerns about problems people like me face in order to please your ass. On top of that, I read pages of racist bullshit from people like you in this forum every day. Don't tell me that whites like you aren't trying to segregate America by somebody's skin color. Nobody black decided that every white person that voted against Obama was somehow tied to some white plantation unable to think independently. You are the stupid one and you've shown it again here. Our problem with whites is about a behavior pattern that has lasted for more than 400 years. Not skin color.