The confederates were assholes but knocking down their statues makes you an asshole too

[Blackrook]

That's the way I look at it.

 

[MarcATL]

LoL!

 

[TemplarKormac]

LoL!

LOL.

 

[Blackrook]

If I lived back then, I'd gladly have shot the rebel scum if I was a soldier for the Union.

But let bygones be bygones, they're heroes to the people they fought for.

Don't tear down statutes of heroes, even heroes who fought for the wrong side.

 

[there4eyeM]

The Washington quotation could be applied to most of Congress, and certainly the two parts of the political duopoly in general concerning most 'issues' in America.

 

[Blackrook]

When these assholes have grown weary of doing this shit, they will reap the fucking whirlwind. Something very bad is going to happen to THEM.

 

[night_son]

When these assholes have grown weary of doing this shit, they will reap the fucking whirlwind. Something very bad is going to happen to THEM.

Count on it.

 

[night_son]

That's the way I look at it.

The "Confederates" were Americans—people just like any others—whose lives were steeped in and ruled by a culture ingrained into their generations by tradition, a great sense of pride and a perhaps antiquated, even for the time, sense or code of inviolable honor. Confederate politicians aside, the average young man of the South was likely looking for a cause to take up with. What greater cause ever existed than defending one's own backyard, family and surrounding backyards? Throw in defense of heritage, that southern sense of honor, plenty of ideological propaganda, and presto, you've got yourself an Army of secession. For BLM and the common radical leftist modern ideologists to piss on and dismiss all southern folk of the day as flaming racists is as ignorant as it is itself racist, bigoted and thoroughly anti-American. The preservation of all history must be a primary duty of all civilizations that plan on surviving. Those civilizations who desecrate the markers and memorials of their own past in attempts to remake themselves into some other kind of "thing" from what they began as soon turn in desperation to their own foundations only to then find them gone forever and themselves adrift without hope of the familiar.

 

[cnm]

What greater cause ever existed than defending one's own backyard, family and surrounding backyards?

Extending the practice of the peculiar institution to the new territories.


Duh...

 

[cnm]

What greater cause ever existed than defending one's own backyard, family and surrounding backyards?

Righting fundamentally wrong ideas.

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution — African slavery as it exists amongst us — the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew." ​

The "Cornerstone" Speech Full Text​

 

[Snouter]

Many if not all Union soldiers hated Blacks for causing them to kill their own.

 

[cnm]

Many if not all Union soldiers hated Blacks for causing them to kill their own.

Especially as they were also fighting guys who were trying to right the fundamentally wrong ideas on which the Union was implicitly based. One can see how that would have pissed the Union soldiers off.

 

[JoeB131]

That's the way I look at it.

No, the Confederates were assholes.
People who want to keep statues of them up because they offend black people are assholes, too.

 

[Care4all]

That's the way I look at it.

The "Confederates" were Americans—people just like any others—whose lives were steeped in and ruled by a culture ingrained into their generations by tradition, a great sense of pride and a perhaps antiquated, even for the time, sense or code of inviolable honor. Confederate politicians aside, the average young man of the South was likely looking for a cause to take up with. What greater cause ever existed than defending one's own backyard, family and surrounding backyards? Throw in defense of heritage, that southern sense of honor, plenty of ideological propaganda, and presto, you've got yourself an Army of secession. For BLM and the common radical leftist modern ideologists to piss on and dismiss all southern folk of the day as flaming racists is as ignorant as it is itself racist, bigoted and thoroughly anti-American. The preservation of all history must be a primary duty of all civilizations that plan on surviving. Those civilizations who desecrate the markers and memorials of their own past in attempts to remake themselves into some other kind of "thing" from what they began as soon turn in desperation to their own foundations only to then find them gone forever and themselves adrift without hope of the familiar.

The confederate foot soldiers were drafted, not volunteers.... at least from my Ancestry.com research....

Anyone white and male, from 15 to 50 years, had to register for the draft, whether they wanted to, or not...

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Just like the Taliban.
The Taliban wanted to obliterate all historical records and monuments of any kind other than ones pertaining to Muslim faith.
These Antifa/BLM driven "protestors" want to obliterate all historical monuments of any kind - period.

 

[occupied]

Most confederate monuments were placed by the KKK or some other such white supremacist group 50-70 years after the war ended. It's telling that the men who fought the war had to die before someone felt the need to memorialize the generals and politicians who promised soldiers the moon and gave then nothing but defeat.

 

[BlueGin]

That's the way I look at it.

No, the Confederates were assholes.
People who want to keep statues of them up because they offend black people are assholes, too.

That argument went out the window when the left went after all statues including those of our founding fathers. The left wants to erase all history not just that of the Civil War. And it’s not because they are “ offended”.

 

[cnm]

Most confederate monuments were placed by the KKK or some other such white supremacist group 50-70 years after the war ended.

United Daughters of the Confederacy.

 

[cnm]

That argument went out the window when the left went after all statues including those of our founding fathers.

How come? It's not as if the founding fathers didn't keep blacks enslaved, after a rebellion that enabled them to keep blacks enslaved.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Most confederate monuments were placed by the KKK or some other such white supremacist group 50-70 years after the war ended. It's telling that the men who fought the war had to die before someone felt the need to memorialize the generals and politicians who promised soldiers the moon and gave then nothing but defeat.

What about all the others they have wanted to remove?
You think Columbus was a civil war hero?
Thomas Jefferson?
You realize they vandalized Lincoln center?