The Death of the American Catholic Church

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Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No, she'll need a "sexless" middle man.

Could you possibly be more cynical?

If you like, sure. But isn't that how catholicism works; the middle man scam? Didn’t they used to have this racket whereby they charged folks money so their deceased love ones could get into heaven. Now THAT’S cynical pard.

You know who else thought like you?

...in order to charm the golden birds, out of the pockets of his dearly beloved neighbours in Christ. He puts himself at the service of the other’s most depraved fancies, plays the pimp between him and his need, excites in him morbid appetites, lies in wait for each of his weaknesses – all so that he can then demand the cash for this service of love. (Every product is a bait with which to seduce away the other’s very being, his money; every real and possible need is a weakness which will lead the fly to the glue-pot. General exploitation of communal human nature, just as every imperfection in man, is a bond with heaven – an avenue giving the priest access to his heart; every need is an opportunity to approach one’s neighbour under the guise of the utmost amiability and to say to him: Dear friend, I give you what you need, but you know the conditio sine qua non; you know the ink in which you have to sign yourself over to me; in providing for your pleasure, I fleece you.)

Karl Marx
Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
3rd paragraph

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/needs.htm

Brillant, the "commie" bit. Mr objective.

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

Anyone who decides "to believe" first, and then needs to have that subjective belief "supported". Funny thing about that is that it's always more a function of where and when the believer was born in time and space.

 

[ding]

Could you possibly be more cynical?

If you like, sure. But isn't that how catholicism works; the middle man scam? Didn’t they used to have this racket whereby they charged folks money so their deceased love ones could get into heaven. Now THAT’S cynical pard.

You know who else thought like you?

...in order to charm the golden birds, out of the pockets of his dearly beloved neighbours in Christ. He puts himself at the service of the other’s most depraved fancies, plays the pimp between him and his need, excites in him morbid appetites, lies in wait for each of his weaknesses – all so that he can then demand the cash for this service of love. (Every product is a bait with which to seduce away the other’s very being, his money; every real and possible need is a weakness which will lead the fly to the glue-pot. General exploitation of communal human nature, just as every imperfection in man, is a bond with heaven – an avenue giving the priest access to his heart; every need is an opportunity to approach one’s neighbour under the guise of the utmost amiability and to say to him: Dear friend, I give you what you need, but you know the conditio sine qua non; you know the ink in which you have to sign yourself over to me; in providing for your pleasure, I fleece you.)

Karl Marx
Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
3rd paragraph

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/needs.htm

Brillant, the "commie" bit. Mr objective.

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

 

[Fenton Lum]

If you like, sure. But isn't that how catholicism works; the middle man scam? Didn’t they used to have this racket whereby they charged folks money so their deceased love ones could get into heaven. Now THAT’S cynical pard.

You know who else thought like you?

...in order to charm the golden birds, out of the pockets of his dearly beloved neighbours in Christ. He puts himself at the service of the other’s most depraved fancies, plays the pimp between him and his need, excites in him morbid appetites, lies in wait for each of his weaknesses – all so that he can then demand the cash for this service of love. (Every product is a bait with which to seduce away the other’s very being, his money; every real and possible need is a weakness which will lead the fly to the glue-pot. General exploitation of communal human nature, just as every imperfection in man, is a bond with heaven – an avenue giving the priest access to his heart; every need is an opportunity to approach one’s neighbour under the guise of the utmost amiability and to say to him: Dear friend, I give you what you need, but you know the conditio sine qua non; you know the ink in which you have to sign yourself over to me; in providing for your pleasure, I fleece you.)

Karl Marx
Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
3rd paragraph

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/needs.htm

Brillant, the "commie" bit. Mr objective.

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

Thanks for your subjective list.

 

[ding]

Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

Anyone who decides "to believe" first, and then needs to have that subjective belief "supported". Funny thing about that is that it's always more a function of where and when the believer was born in time and space.

In my case I first had to believe through reason and experience before I tested it. I am not arrogant enough to believe that that is the only way. But regardless of how we got there, we will all see the signs that it is good and true. Just like you should see the signs that militant atheism is false and evil.

 

[ding]

You know who else thought like you?

...in order to charm the golden birds, out of the pockets of his dearly beloved neighbours in Christ. He puts himself at the service of the other’s most depraved fancies, plays the pimp between him and his need, excites in him morbid appetites, lies in wait for each of his weaknesses – all so that he can then demand the cash for this service of love. (Every product is a bait with which to seduce away the other’s very being, his money; every real and possible need is a weakness which will lead the fly to the glue-pot. General exploitation of communal human nature, just as every imperfection in man, is a bond with heaven – an avenue giving the priest access to his heart; every need is an opportunity to approach one’s neighbour under the guise of the utmost amiability and to say to him: Dear friend, I give you what you need, but you know the conditio sine qua non; you know the ink in which you have to sign yourself over to me; in providing for your pleasure, I fleece you.)

Karl Marx
Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
3rd paragraph

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/needs.htm

Brillant, the "commie" bit. Mr objective.

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

Thanks for your subjective list.

So then you tell me what good you believe has come from religion. Fair enough?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Brillant, the "commie" bit. Mr objective.

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

Thanks for your subjective list.

So then you tell me what good you believe has come from religion. Fair enough?

I don't recognize your authority to demand anything from anyone.

 

[Mudda]

Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

 

[ding]

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

Thanks for your subjective list.

So then you tell me what good you believe has come from religion. Fair enough?

I don't recognize your authority to demand anything from anyone.

That's because you don't believe any good has come from religion, right? Would you abolish religion if you had the power to do so?

 

[ding]

Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

 

[Mudda]

Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

 

[ding]

Faith is having complete trust or confidence in someone or something. We shouldn't put faith in someone or something without good reason. Luckily for us, we don't have to for He has made His eternal power and divine nature clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made so that we are without excuse.

Those are His words, not mine.

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

 

[Mudda]

Who heard him say that, you?

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

 

[ding]

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

No. He only told me about your mental disorders. You know... from being a militant atheist.

Atheism and negative emotions/thoughts

To see relevant studies and historical data about the atheist population's highly unusual propensity to display negative emotions such as depression, anger, anxiety and boredom, please see:


Research suggests that irreligiousity is a causal factor for domestic violence.[1]
See: Irreligion and domestic violence and Secular Europe and domestic violence


1. Atheism and depression (Cites relevant studies about atheism increasing depression)

2. Atheism and suicide (Atheists have a higher suicide rate than the general public)

3. Militant atheism and anger (Studies and historical information about atheism and anger)

4. Irreligion and domestic violence and Secular Europe and domestic violence (Research indicates that religiosity lowers one's propensity to engage in domestic violence)

5. Militant atheism (Historical information about atheism/violence/intolerance)

6. Atheism and emotional intelligence (Cites relevant studies about atheists having lower emotional intelligence). See also: Atheism and alcoholism

7. Atheism and social intelligence (Cites relevant studies and historical data showing lower interpersonal skills within the atheist population)

8. Atheism and death anxiety (Cites relevant studies and historical data related to atheism/death anxiety and related matters)

9. Atheism and meaninglessness (Cites relevant information from studies and history)

10. Atheism and irrationality (Cites studies on irreligion/irrationality/superstitious beliefs and other relevant information)

11. Atheism, obesity and loneliness (Cites studies and other relevant data)

 

[ding]

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

Maybe you should go see a doctor.

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303

RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found. CONCLUSIONS: Religious affiliation is associated with less suicidal behavior in depressed inpatients. After other factors were controlled, it was found that greater moral objections to suicide and lower aggression level in religiously affiliated subjects may function as protective factors against suicide attempts. Further study about the influence of religious affiliation on aggressive behavior and how moral objections can reduce the probability of acting on suicidal thoughts may offer new therapeutic strategies in suicide prevention.

 

[ding]

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

In an article also published in this issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings, Mayo Clinic researchers reviewed published studies, meta-analyses, systematic reviews and subject reviews that examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life and other health outcomes.

The authors report a majority of the nearly 350 studies of physical health and 850 studies of mental health that have used religious and spiritual variables have found that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes.

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/76/12/1225.full.pdf

 

[ding]

Anyone who cared to hear.

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

Duke University has established the Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health.[5] The Duke University Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health is based in the Center for Aging at Duke and gives opportunities for scholarly trans-disciplinary conversation and the development of collaborative research projects.[6] In respect to the atheism and mental and physical health, the center offers many studies which suggest that theism is more beneficial than atheism.[7]

1. http://www.dukespiritualityandhealth.org/
2. Jump up↑ http://www.dukespiritualityandhealth.org/about/
3. Jump up↑ http://www.dukespiritualityandhealth.org/publications/latest.html

 

[Mudda]

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

Maybe you should go see a doctor.

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303

RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found. CONCLUSIONS: Religious affiliation is associated with less suicidal behavior in depressed inpatients. After other factors were controlled, it was found that greater moral objections to suicide and lower aggression level in religiously affiliated subjects may function as protective factors against suicide attempts. Further study about the influence of religious affiliation on aggressive behavior and how moral objections can reduce the probability of acting on suicidal thoughts may offer new therapeutic strategies in suicide prevention.

Copying me, how cute.

 

[Mudda]

So you have nothing. What a surprise.

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, but I'm not surprised by it.

You've heard your invisible buddy talk?

You don't recognize your mental illness?

Hearing voices is a mental illness. Didn't your doctor tell you that?

Duke University has established the Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health.[5] The Duke University Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health is based in the Center for Aging at Duke and gives opportunities for scholarly trans-disciplinary conversation and the development of collaborative research projects.[6] In respect to the atheism and mental and physical health, the center offers many studies which suggest that theism is more beneficial than atheism.[7]

1. http://www.dukespiritualityandhealth.org/
2. Jump up↑ http://www.dukespiritualityandhealth.org/about/
3. Jump up↑ http://www.dukespiritualityandhealth.org/publications/latest.html

Is this where you're being treated?