The ends justify the means, right?

[Neotrotsky]

I hear you

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy
--------------------------------


I too was crushed when I "found" out that
Papa Obama care is nothing more than one of the
biggest Regressive tax increases in history

 

[Care4all]

FactCheck.org : Obama’s Spending: ‘Inferno’ or Not?

 

[ConservaDerrps]

It's a tax decrease for the middle class, actually, fuck stains. The only people who get taxed or those who free ride and don't buy health insurance.

Facts are your friends.

 

[dblack]

It's a tax decrease for the middle class, actually, fuck stains. The only people who get taxed or those who free ride and don't buy health insurance.

Exactly. It's a scapegoat tax. The majority decides who they'd like to fuck over, and Congress designs taxes to screw the fringe on behalf of the majority.

Go team!

 

[Neotrotsky]

Combined now with the fact, due to the SCOTUS ruling that states
can opt out of Papa Obama cares's Medicaid expansion...

This will lead to substantially higher costs for Papa Obama Care .

The CBO is coming out soon with a new cost trajectory of Obamacare because
of these changes
A lot of attention has been given to the mandate. Less attention has been given to that, because of the SCOTUS ruling, states can't be forced to be on board with the
Medicaid expansion making Papa Obama care exchange subsidies, fiscally unworkable. The Court may have just set in motion events that could lead to Papa Obama Care
busting the budget even more.

Which is why, never trust the Left on taxes

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy

 

[idb]

Where's the argument?
It's constitutional.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Except for the commerce clause part and
forcing the states to fund Papa Obama care medicaid expansion

Sure
as a tax

 

[Stephanie]

This country and your freedoms are doomed

when you have a population that wants the Government to take care of things for you..

sad

 

[Neotrotsky]

Good point

Again, don't trust the Left on taxes and
never trust the Left on spending estimates of gov't programs

Spending Program
Medicare Part A
What politicians said it would cost- $9 billion a year by 1990
What it actually cost- $67 billion a year

Entire Medicare Program
What politicians said it would cost- $12 billion a year by 1990
What it actually cost- $110 billion a year

Medicare relief to states for hospitals
What politicians said it would cost- $1 billion a year in 1992
What it actually cost- $17 billion a year

But hey
no need to worry

Considering the premium/penalty are now a tax,
the mandate becomes the largest regressive tax increase in U.S. history.

So we should have enough tax money
for now

 

[idb]

But surely the only thing that matters is that it's constitutional!

 

[Neotrotsky]

Indeed
be careful what you wish for......
(even slavery was ruled at one time "constitutional")


Constitutional, only as a tax
And the largest regressive tax increase in history

The Left should run with this....

 

[editec]

The ACA compromise will prove to be a less than ideal solution to the raising cost of health care.

You can take that prediction to the bank, folks.

 

[idb]

The ACA compromise will prove to be a less than ideal solution to the raising cost of health care.

You can take that prediction to the bank, folks.

True, and it would have been less of a compromise with more bipartisan collaboration.

 

[idb]

Indeed
be careful what you wish for......
(even slavery was ruled at one time "constitutional")


Constitutional, only as a tax
And the largest regressive tax increase in history

The Left should run with this....

And the largest regressive tax increase in history

Stop quoting Limbaugh...it'll rot your brain!

 

[Stephanie]

Indeed
be careful what you wish for......
(even slavery was ruled at one time "constitutional")


Constitutional, only as a tax
And the largest regressive tax increase in history

The Left should run with this....

And the largest regressive tax increase in history

Stop quoting Limbaugh...it'll rot your brain!

oh brother

 

[Mac1958]

The ACA compromise will prove to be a less than ideal solution to the raising cost of health care.

You can take that prediction to the bank, folks.

True, and it would have been less of a compromise with more bipartisan collaboration.

True and true.

The answers are out there for what needs to be done, but they would require mature cooperation and a willingness to check the egos at the door. Hence, we end up with this fucking mess.

Thanks again, "leaders".

.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh, you guys want lower tuition costs?

Cool. Just start letting our government subsidize education at the same rate we subsidize oil companies. Oh, we can't afford that? I guess you morons will have to let us either raise taxes OR cut corporate welfare. Or we do nothing, let education remain far too expensive, we'll fall even further behind, and then you'll have a nation of really stupid voters. You know, Republicans.

Ohhhhhhhh. I get what you guys are doing now.

you are so fucking stupid, the more the government gives to colleges the more they will want hence they will just keep jacking up the cost of tuition. [/SIZE

So when Romney increases defense spending, and the government pours more money into the defense industry,

they'll just keep jacking up the prices, right?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Speaking of ends

SCOTUS now violates Obama’s 2008 tax pledge to not raise taxes on middle-class and poor Americans.



The biggest tax ever imposed on American citizens, amounting to $1.7 trillion over the first decade, according to the CBO

This bill doesn't raise taxes on poor Americans.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Has anyone missed the hilarity of all these conservatives who have now conceded that the Healthcare Bill IS constitutional,

after all those months of having to listen to them confidently insisting that it wasn't?

What a bunch of idiots.

 

[Stephanie]

Speaking of ends

SCOTUS now violates Obama’s 2008 tax pledge to not raise taxes on middle-class and poor Americans.



The biggest tax ever imposed on American citizens, amounting to $1.7 trillion over the first decade, according to the CBO

This bill doesn't raise taxes on poor Americans.

so much for everyone having skin the game
you all are going to run out of taxpayers money for your utopia, soon