Zone1 Should you have to pay taxes to be able to vote?

[Concerned American]

And who are they and how to they buy something without paying the sales tax?

Oregon--no sales tax

 

[progressive hunter]

And who are they and how to they buy something without paying the sales tax?

who they are is people that have never had a job and buying things with tax payer money handed to them by the government,,

 

[Care4all]

It’s not a bad idea to flirt with IMO

It’s easy to spend other people’s money, and it’s easy to vote to only get things from the state and not give anything.

It’s easy to vote recklessly if one has no skin in the game.

It’s like 2 parents and 3 kids in a family, and all get a vote. The kids vote for toys, food, vacations, etc while the parents vote for paying the mortgage and saving for retirement. Under this system the family will become homeless and broke.

Everyone has a stake in the tax game.... Federal income tax is not the only means that taxes citizens, there are gas taxes, liquor taxes, State income taxes, Sales taxes, cigarette taxes, property taxes, social security and Medicare taxes etc etc etc etc.

 

[Rambunctious]

And who are they and how to they buy something without paying the sales tax?

Tren de Aragua.... they steal what they want and need... they buy nothing above the table...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Tren de Aragua.... they steal what they want and need... they buy nothing above the table...

You spend a lot of time with them?

 

[progressive hunter]

Everyone has a stake in the tax game.... Federal income tax is not the only means that taxes citizens, there are gas taxes, liquor taxes, State income taxes, Sales taxes, cigarette taxes, property taxes, social security and Medicare taxes etc etc etc etc.

people tht have never had a job and lived solely on government handouts dont pay taxs,, they benefit from them,,

 

[Care4all]

The issue is whether the representatives CAN make laws to tax you....not whether the tax is there already,

we get representation ahead of any taxing they may do....

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The issue is whether the representatives CAN make laws to tax you....not whether the tax is there already,

we get representation ahead of any taxing they may do....

The whole premise of the OP is extremely weird.

 

[progressive hunter]

The issue is whether the representatives CAN make laws to tax you....not whether the tax is there already,

we get representation ahead of any taxing they may do....

you dont get representation if youre a freeloader that doesnt contribute,,

 

[pknopp]

not if theyve never had a job and lived their whole lives on government assistance,,

Everyone pays some sort of tax.

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

 

[Care4all]

people tht have never had a job and lived solely on government handouts dont pay taxs,, they benefit from them,,

Straw man. Likely, no one exists that hasn't paid taxes of some sort....period!

 

[progressive hunter]

Everyone pays some sort of tax.

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

not when they use money they didnt earn,,

other people pay it for them,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Straw man. Likely, no one exists that hasn't paid taxes of some sort....period!

they didnt pay it when its other peoples money,,

 

[Care4all]

you dont get representation if youre a freeloader that doesnt contribute,,

Where does it say that in our Constitution?

No where.

 

[progressive hunter]

Where does it say that in our Constitution?

No where.

right under the good and plenty clause,,

 

[Care4all]

The whole premise of the OP is extremely weird.

It is a common argument from people on the right side of the aisle that comes up on this site a few times a year....from what I have seen over the years here....

 

[Care4all]

right under the good and plenty clause,,

Huh?

 

[progressive hunter]

Huh?

I currently dont have representation because I live in a democrat district,,

the guy here is for everything I am against,,

 

[Care4all]

No taxation without representation.....

...means before anyone or anything is taxed by our representation in Congress or State legislatures etc, we get the right as citizens to vote for those representatives charged with making those decisions on taxing us or not.

We are not given representation after we have already been taxed, but BEFORE our representation taxes us on anything.

That is common sense.

 

[progressive hunter]

No taxation without representation.....

...means before anyone or anything is taxed by our representation in Congress or State legislatures etc, we get the right as citizens to vote for those representatives charged with making those decisions on taxing us or not.

We are not given representation after we have already been taxed, but BEFORE our representation taxes us on anything.

That is common sense.

people that have never had a job and only been a drain on the government purse dont get representation and shouldnt be allowed to vote,,