The fix is in.

[LoneLaugher]

This seems to be ignored.

LOL

Democratic DONORS to the Democratic Party an accurate slice ..........LMAO

Get real folks............they donate freaking money.............so I'll laugh at your posts.

What was the political make up of the Benghazi investigators? How about Whitewater?

People can and do, do a professional ethical job regardless of their political affiliations. They can only take this as far as there is EVIDENCE to support it.

Benghazi was bi-partisan, Whitewhater I am not sure what the makeup was.

Because in Whitewater no one questioned the ability of the people to do the job in a professional manner. Now suddenly - it's questioned.

I think the fact that every single attorney that mueller has hired was against trump, and was for his opponent in the election, is a huge matter. Whitewater was nowhere near this obvious a unethical investigation. Starr wasted tons of money, but the one thing that he was able to prove is that the clintons are experts at destroying evidence.

You people actually believe that Robert Mueller took the political leanings of the people he has hired into consideration. You will believe anything except what is right in front of you.

 

[LoneLaugher]

There are people participating in this thread who think the Dems are stopping Trump from getting shit done. It is absolutely amazing.

They aren't. He has done quite a lot. They are though, obstructing him as much as they can. Even you can't deny that.

They are opposing him on policy. It's called loyal opposition.

And he hasn't done shit.

No, it's called party before country and it's the DNC mantra. And he has done quite a lot. We have already shown that in several threads here.

He's done nothing.

In six months he has fundamentally changed the way the VA is going to deal with the veterans in their care. obummer waved his hands and did nothing for eight years.

Next.

Bull.

 

[LoneLaugher]

What was the political make up of the Benghazi investigators? How about Whitewater?

People can and do, do a professional ethical job regardless of their political affiliations. They can only take this as far as there is EVIDENCE to support it.

Benghazi was bi-partisan, Whitewhater I am not sure what the makeup was.

Because in Whitewater no one questioned the ability of the people to do the job in a professional manner. Now suddenly - it's questioned.

I think the fact that every single attorney that mueller has hired was against trump, and was for his opponent in the election, is a huge matter. Whitewater was nowhere near this obvious a unethical investigation. Starr wasted tons of money, but the one thing that he was able to prove is that the clintons are experts at destroying evidence.

When you're building a team of the best lawyers and prosecutors in the country, you don't ask how they voted. Why? Because it's irrelevant. Lawyers defend and prosecute people they like and people they don't, people they voted for and people they voted against. It's part of the job. However since most lawyers are democrats, most of Mueller's staff are democrats, however Mueller is a Republican as was Comey till a year or so ago when he declared he was independent voter.

They are all political operatives. Every single one of them. It's a very easy check to see who they donated too. Do you not find it even slightly weird that there is not a single trump supporter in the group? Not one? I have to hand it to you progressives, you are amazingly uninterested in the world.

No. I don't find it odd that among a group of highly educated people who don't have a political need to do so, there are none who support Trump.

You have to be an idiot or have something to gain if you are a Trump supporter.

 

[Care4all]

First, Mueller, a good friend of the fired Comey, is appointed to lead the investigation into the non-existent collusion, then he loads his staff with 0bama sycophants and Hillary supporters, now he wants to convene a Grand Jury, and he wants it to sit in DC. Where you basically can't find a Trump supporter.

This has always been my only fear about this. The left, as we all know is corrupt to the core. They would watch this country burn rather than let 0bamas disastrous legacy get reversed. Party before country with them and it isn't even close.

Would it surprise anyone at all if they didn't completely make shit up?

1. Of course Comey and Mueller know each other - they've been working together for nearly 20 years. They're also both registered republicans (or in Comey's case, was), both have impeccable credentials and respect from both sides of the aisle, and finally, Comey is not a subject of Muellers investigation.

2. 8 out of the 15 lawyers Mueller has hired were Hillary supporters. That's as accurate a slice of the American population that Mueller could have come up with.

3. Where else would the GJ be enpanelled? Idaho?

1. Irrelevant.

2. 8 out of 15 were Hillary supporters, the rest were formerly on 0bama's staff.

3. It was originally going to be in Virginia.

No, Flynn's grand jury was Virginia, where his consulting/lobbyist business is located.

Washington DC covers any white house people or alleged crimes against the Nation...

Unlike other juries or grand juries, Federal Grand Juries sit for 18 months, and handle hundreds of cases during that period....they are not picked for any specific case/trial as a jury for a criminal trial.

 

[Care4all]

Comey is not a subject of Muellers investigation.

You don't know that. He certainly COULD be, if you read the mandate. Why didn't Comey protest or take notes after Lynch ordered him not to call the Hillary investigation an investigation anymore? Collusion? Why did Comey usurp the AG's authority in dropping the Hillary investigation, a woman with known corrosive ties to the Ukraine and the Russian State, after announcing enough evidence on her to hang ten people?

"Investigating" Comey for nonsense that youve read on the internet is not part of Mueller's mandate.

And no one is history has ever been charged with a crime for what Hillary did. Spillage happens every day.

Actually they have, and in fact there is one Navy sailor sitting in jail right now for doing significantly less. You are factually wrong.

No, I'm not. I discussed the sailor I assume you're talking about a few posts ago.

He did not do "significantly less", and the context of the case makes it clear that his case and Hillary's are legally unrelated.

She specifically violated the law as regards the handling of secure data. This is not arguable. That is a felony as laid out by comey in his testimony to Congress. He is the person, and singular in his interpretation, who decided that intent had to be a component of the crime. The actual law has no intent component. As I said, you are factually wrong.

no comey did not decide on prosecution or not, the Justice Dept's prosecutors assigned to the FBI Investigation decided, Comey does not and did not hold the place to decide....

he simply was the head of the FBI investigation and messenger.

 

[eagle1462010]

Benghazi was bi-partisan, Whitewhater I am not sure what the makeup was.

Because in Whitewater no one questioned the ability of the people to do the job in a professional manner. Now suddenly - it's questioned.

I think the fact that every single attorney that mueller has hired was against trump, and was for his opponent in the election, is a huge matter. Whitewater was nowhere near this obvious a unethical investigation. Starr wasted tons of money, but the one thing that he was able to prove is that the clintons are experts at destroying evidence.

When you're building a team of the best lawyers and prosecutors in the country, you don't ask how they voted. Why? Because it's irrelevant. Lawyers defend and prosecute people they like and people they don't, people they voted for and people they voted against. It's part of the job. However since most lawyers are democrats, most of Mueller's staff are democrats, however Mueller is a Republican as was Comey till a year or so ago when he declared he was independent voter.

They are all political operatives. Every single one of them. It's a very easy check to see who they donated too. Do you not find it even slightly weird that there is not a single trump supporter in the group? Not one? I have to hand it to you progressives, you are amazingly uninterested in the world.

No. I don't find it odd that among a group of highly educated people who don't have a political need to do so, there are none who support Trump.

You have to be an idiot or have something to gain if you are a Trump supporter.

Anyone who supports Trump is an Idiot..........................so be it...........I support Trump and the policies he promised................So if you wish to label me an Idiot then so be it.............I simply don't care from a pack of losers who supported the most corrupt candidate in the last election..............

You supported her even though she is dirty as hall................and a proven LIAR over and over again..........

She is part of the corrupt establishment that needs to get thrown out of leadership in this country.......and that corruption doesn't give a damn whether a Dem or Rep run the country.............only if their agenda goes forward.

They are upset with Trump, because even after all the dirty tricks that usual get them their way...........they lost..........

Hillary was supposed to be a CORONATION..................didn't happen.......time to take out Trump because they didn't get their way.

Trump is securing our border.........Catch and Release is dead............I agree with that.

Trump appointed a Supreme Court Justice who will not be a Judicial Activist for the Dems...........I agree with that.

Trump is cleaning house in the VA...........even signed a new law to fire incompetent people............long past time that was done.

Trump is killing Regulations............fewest regulations passed in a very very long time...........cutting others.......long past time that was done.

Trump has unrestricted ROE's on the battle field...............hand cuffing our troops............and getting them killed..........long past overdue...............

TPP is dead in the water..............the Globalist wet dream to put more money in their pockets and screw the American Worker and Jobs here in our country................Hillary would have signed it..........so would the others on the GOP side if Trump didn't win the nomination..............

All of this while the NOISE continues over Russia...............and more..............I'm happy with some of his accomplishments so far.................He is trying to Honor his promises...............and is doing so................


But that makes me an IDIOT................label from a partisan hack...............then I'll consider that a compliment.

 

[jon_berzerk]

PredFan , let's say this is all true. Let's even say that the Republican members of "the swamp" are fine with it. Anything is possible.

Exactly what did Trump supporters expect? That one wild, vulgar billionaire non-politician would be able to change the system by himself?

Did you really think that Republican swampers were just going to bend over for him after he personally insulted them time after time? That the media would instantly acquiesce because they'd be so intimidated, or because they'd develop some overnight objectivity? That the Democrats would cower in the corner, licking their wounds for a few decades?

Seriously, lay it out: What were you expecting?
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That one wild, vulgar billionaire non-politician would be able to change the system by himself?


yes indeed in a way

he proves the need for men just like him to step in

just as i would never vote for a hillary type i would never vote for a Ryan type either

they both represent the slimy swamp that needs draining

 

[Care4all]

Intent. There was none. You saying that this doesn't matter is pointless. It obviously mattwrs.

Try again Ace. Just for starters, and this is by no means inclusive, have a look at US Code Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 37 §793(f) Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information. Like I said, this one is just one of maybe a dozen that could apply to Hillary. If you read it, you will see that it says "through gross negligence." There is nothing saying you have to have intent. Jame Comey said she was utterly careless, or something to that effect.

"The actual law has no intent component". Where do you get shit like that?

Like I said above. That "shit" is US Law.

She admitted her error. She withstood the hearings. She didn't lie about what had occurred. No cover up.

She did all of that after:

A). Her secret server was accidentally found out by investigating Podesta I believe. Had that never occurred, she never would have admitted to anything.
B). That she admitted to what she was caught red handed with, doesn't count for anything. She didn't withstand anything, Comey simply refused to prosecute her. Of course she lied and covered up. She didn't admit to anything until she knew she could hide the facts any longer. Your "reasoning" is incredibly obtuse and dismissive!

If Hillary had stabbed someone, what would your argument be then? That she didn't kill him? That she didn't make the knife? That she slipped and fell into him coughing? That people get stabbed in Harlem all the time and don't get caught? You people just amaze me at the lengths you will twist the facts then feign innocence or worse, call OTHERS idiots.

Just an FYI-
Not one itty bitty thing you claimed and said was correct on your version of the events. Not a one.... She didn't break US CODE Title 18....

She and her staff NEVER REMOVED top secret information from the top secret server, from its proper place.

 

[FJO]

The GOP is part of the establishment swamp, that is readily apparent by their actions or inaction since Trump took office.

Is there anyone here who doubts that the GOP would be fine with Pence?

I'm not saying that I believe this is a fine deal. I have said I'm the past that this witch hunt is nothing but a ploy to keep their base excited so they won't realize that Trump is in fact, doing good. It could be that moving the GJ to D.C. is just a way to prevent the GJ from looking at their pile of nothing and ruling against them in an hour.

Knowing though, how utterly corrupt the left is, they could actually fabricate enough garbage to actually win this. I think the GOP would be fine with it.

It's where we are in our politics now: It was said in here when Trump was elected and the GOP kept the Congress, that the only thing the Dems could do was damage Trump so that moderate Republicans would shy away from him. That's the only power the Dems had/have. There were several conversations about that very thing.

Well, it's playing out, right on cue. The problem for Trump is that he doesn't have enough support from the public to change it. Well, given his behavior, that can't exactly be considered a shock.
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I don't believe that at all. I know people who wish he wouldn't tweet so much, or wouldn't attack the media so much, but when you ask them, they will all vote for him again.

His base is his base, at least 85% is going to stick with him, because that's what a base does. I'm talking about the internal polling done by Republicans who are in for tough races in 2018. I've been saying all along that those are the polls that matter right now, and that we'll be able to tell how they look by the way those Republicans act towards Trump.

You can argue that those polls are wrong, but Trump is (especially after sacking Priebus) becoming more and more isolated within his own party right now, and he can't pass laws by himself. And given the way he is, that just can't be a surprise.
.

. What we might be seeing is that America was being undermined for so long, that too many players have been put into place over the years, in order to protect the agenda of those who envision an America that will be unrecognizable by those living today. It will be a shiney city on a hill, but the contents will be pure evil. It's already in motion, so let's see if it was to be our destiny or not. All eye's are on Washington now.

Nothing will change in Washington. DC without term limits.

Why is there term limit only for the president? Because the insatiably power hungry cripple amply proved that limitless power by an individual is detrimental to the country.

How come it is not obvious that term limits must be applied to all members of Congress, because they are all insatiably power hungry.

Limit them to 12 years and thank them for their service and say goodbye.

Nothing illustrates how rotten to the core they all than the fact that they all resist the very idea of term limits.

 

[FJO]

There are people participating in this thread who think the Dems are stopping Trump from getting shit done. It is absolutely amazing.

They aren't. He has done quite a lot. They are though, obstructing him as much as they can. Even you can't deny that.

They are opposing him on policy. It's called loyal opposition.

And he hasn't done shit.

If that is "loyal" opposition, I would hate see an opposition that is not loyal.

If he hasn't done shit why does your miserable ilk trying to impeach/kill/embarrass/dump him?

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP is part of the establishment swamp, that is readily apparent by their actions or inaction since Trump took office.

Is there anyone here who doubts that the GOP would be fine with Pence?

I'm not saying that I believe this is a fine deal. I have said I'm the past that this witch hunt is nothing but a ploy to keep their base excited so they won't realize that Trump is in fact, doing good. It could be that moving the GJ to D.C. is just a way to prevent the GJ from looking at their pile of nothing and ruling against them in an hour.

Knowing though, how utterly corrupt the left is, they could actually fabricate enough garbage to actually win this. I think the GOP would be fine with it.

It's where we are in our politics now: It was said in here when Trump was elected and the GOP kept the Congress, that the only thing the Dems could do was damage Trump so that moderate Republicans would shy away from him. That's the only power the Dems had/have. There were several conversations about that very thing.

Well, it's playing out, right on cue. The problem for Trump is that he doesn't have enough support from the public to change it. Well, given his behavior, that can't exactly be considered a shock.
.

I don't believe that at all. I know people who wish he wouldn't tweet so much, or wouldn't attack the media so much, but when you ask them, they will all vote for him again.

His base is his base, at least 85% is going to stick with him, because that's what a base does. I'm talking about the internal polling done by Republicans who are in for tough races in 2018. I've been saying all along that those are the polls that matter right now, and that we'll be able to tell how they look by the way those Republicans act towards Trump.

You can argue that those polls are wrong, but Trump is (especially after sacking Priebus) becoming more and more isolated within his own party right now, and he can't pass laws by himself. And given the way he is, that just can't be a surprise.
.

. What we might be seeing is that America was being undermined for so long, that too many players have been put into place over the years, in order to protect the agenda of those who envision an America that will be unrecognizable by those living today. It will be a shiney city on a hill, but the contents will be pure evil. It's already in motion, so let's see if it was to be our destiny or not. All eye's are on Washington now.

Nothing will change in Washington. DC without term limits.

Why is there term limit only for the president? Because the insatiably power hungry cripple amply proved that limitless power by an individual is detrimental to the country.

How come it is not obvious that term limits must be applied to all members of Congress, because they are all insatiably power hungry.

Limit them to 12 years and thank them for their service and say goodbye.

Nothing illustrates how rotten to the core they all than the fact that they all resist the very idea of term limits.

Bingo.

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people would behave the way they do if they didn't have one eye on fundraising and re-election?

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people don't build power/influence bases that make re-election easier, regardless of their quality?

There's nothing special about these people. They can be replaced. All of them.

I'd make it even shorter than 12 years, but that would be a great start.
.

 

[FJO]

The GOP is part of the establishment swamp, that is readily apparent by their actions or inaction since Trump took office.

Is there anyone here who doubts that the GOP would be fine with Pence?

I'm not saying that I believe this is a fine deal. I have said I'm the past that this witch hunt is nothing but a ploy to keep their base excited so they won't realize that Trump is in fact, doing good. It could be that moving the GJ to D.C. is just a way to prevent the GJ from looking at their pile of nothing and ruling against them in an hour.

Knowing though, how utterly corrupt the left is, they could actually fabricate enough garbage to actually win this. I think the GOP would be fine with it.

It's where we are in our politics now: It was said in here when Trump was elected and the GOP kept the Congress, that the only thing the Dems could do was damage Trump so that moderate Republicans would shy away from him. That's the only power the Dems had/have. There were several conversations about that very thing.

Well, it's playing out, right on cue. The problem for Trump is that he doesn't have enough support from the public to change it. Well, given his behavior, that can't exactly be considered a shock.
.

I don't believe that at all. I know people who wish he wouldn't tweet so much, or wouldn't attack the media so much, but when you ask them, they will all vote for him again.

His base is his base, at least 85% is going to stick with him, because that's what a base does. I'm talking about the internal polling done by Republicans who are in for tough races in 2018. I've been saying all along that those are the polls that matter right now, and that we'll be able to tell how they look by the way those Republicans act towards Trump.

You can argue that those polls are wrong, but Trump is (especially after sacking Priebus) becoming more and more isolated within his own party right now, and he can't pass laws by himself. And given the way he is, that just can't be a surprise.
.

. What we might be seeing is that America was being undermined for so long, that too many players have been put into place over the years, in order to protect the agenda of those who envision an America that will be unrecognizable by those living today. It will be a shiney city on a hill, but the contents will be pure evil. It's already in motion, so let's see if it was to be our destiny or not. All eye's are on Washington now.

I think there a times that an entrenched system can be shattered from the outside. But I just don't think our political system is one of them.

Now I'm not a fan of Trump, but I sure as hell don't like our system either. And what concerns me here is that he could end up being such a poor choice of messengers that it actually ends up helping the system.
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Trump is a refreshing change in a system rife with moldy has beens who refuse to look in the mirror and see and realize how useless and obsolete they are,

Applies to both parties.

 

[PredFan]

First, Mueller, a good friend of the fired Comey, is appointed to lead the investigation into the non-existent collusion, then he loads his staff with 0bama sycophants and Hillary supporters, now he wants to convene a Grand Jury, and he wants it to sit in DC. Where you basically can't find a Trump supporter.

This has always been my only fear about this. The left, as we all know is corrupt to the core. They would watch this country burn rather than let 0bamas disastrous legacy get reversed. Party before country with them and it isn't even close.

Would it surprise anyone at all if they didn't completely make shit up?

1. Of course Comey and Mueller know each other - they've been working together for nearly 20 years. They're also both registered republicans (or in Comey's case, was), both have impeccable credentials and respect from both sides of the aisle, and finally, Comey is not a subject of Muellers investigation.

2. 8 out of the 15 lawyers Mueller has hired were Hillary supporters. That's as accurate a slice of the American population that Mueller could have come up with.

3. Where else would the GJ be enpanelled? Idaho?

1. Irrelevant.

2. 8 out of 15 were Hillary supporters, the rest were formerly on 0bama's staff.

3. It was originally going to be in Virginia.

No, Flynn's grand jury was Virginia, where his consulting/lobbyist business is located.

Washington DC covers any white house people or alleged crimes against the Nation...

Unlike other juries or grand juries, Federal Grand Juries sit for 18 months, and handle hundreds of cases during that period....they are not picked for any specific case/trial as a jury for a criminal trial.

Oh really? So why isn't he using an already seated GJ? Why is he appointing a new one?

 

[PredFan]

It's where we are in our politics now: It was said in here when Trump was elected and the GOP kept the Congress, that the only thing the Dems could do was damage Trump so that moderate Republicans would shy away from him. That's the only power the Dems had/have. There were several conversations about that very thing.

Well, it's playing out, right on cue. The problem for Trump is that he doesn't have enough support from the public to change it. Well, given his behavior, that can't exactly be considered a shock.
.

I don't believe that at all. I know people who wish he wouldn't tweet so much, or wouldn't attack the media so much, but when you ask them, they will all vote for him again.

His base is his base, at least 85% is going to stick with him, because that's what a base does. I'm talking about the internal polling done by Republicans who are in for tough races in 2018. I've been saying all along that those are the polls that matter right now, and that we'll be able to tell how they look by the way those Republicans act towards Trump.

You can argue that those polls are wrong, but Trump is (especially after sacking Priebus) becoming more and more isolated within his own party right now, and he can't pass laws by himself. And given the way he is, that just can't be a surprise.
.

. What we might be seeing is that America was being undermined for so long, that too many players have been put into place over the years, in order to protect the agenda of those who envision an America that will be unrecognizable by those living today. It will be a shiney city on a hill, but the contents will be pure evil. It's already in motion, so let's see if it was to be our destiny or not. All eye's are on Washington now.

Nothing will change in Washington. DC without term limits.

Why is there term limit only for the president? Because the insatiably power hungry cripple amply proved that limitless power by an individual is detrimental to the country.

How come it is not obvious that term limits must be applied to all members of Congress, because they are all insatiably power hungry.

Limit them to 12 years and thank them for their service and say goodbye.

Nothing illustrates how rotten to the core they all than the fact that they all resist the very idea of term limits.

Bingo.

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people would behave the way they do if they didn't have one eye on fundraising and re-election?

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people don't build power/influence bases that make re-election easier, regardless of their quality?

There's nothing special about these people. They can be replaced. All of them.

I'd make it even shorter than 12 years, but that would be a great start.
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Term limits won't change a thing. They don't call them Representatives for nothing.

Why didn't you join in on my term limits thread a while ago?

 

[Mac1958]

I don't believe that at all. I know people who wish he wouldn't tweet so much, or wouldn't attack the media so much, but when you ask them, they will all vote for him again.

His base is his base, at least 85% is going to stick with him, because that's what a base does. I'm talking about the internal polling done by Republicans who are in for tough races in 2018. I've been saying all along that those are the polls that matter right now, and that we'll be able to tell how they look by the way those Republicans act towards Trump.

You can argue that those polls are wrong, but Trump is (especially after sacking Priebus) becoming more and more isolated within his own party right now, and he can't pass laws by himself. And given the way he is, that just can't be a surprise.
.

. What we might be seeing is that America was being undermined for so long, that too many players have been put into place over the years, in order to protect the agenda of those who envision an America that will be unrecognizable by those living today. It will be a shiney city on a hill, but the contents will be pure evil. It's already in motion, so let's see if it was to be our destiny or not. All eye's are on Washington now.

Nothing will change in Washington. DC without term limits.

Why is there term limit only for the president? Because the insatiably power hungry cripple amply proved that limitless power by an individual is detrimental to the country.

How come it is not obvious that term limits must be applied to all members of Congress, because they are all insatiably power hungry.

Limit them to 12 years and thank them for their service and say goodbye.

Nothing illustrates how rotten to the core they all than the fact that they all resist the very idea of term limits.

Bingo.

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people would behave the way they do if they didn't have one eye on fundraising and re-election?

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people don't build power/influence bases that make re-election easier, regardless of their quality?

There's nothing special about these people. They can be replaced. All of them.

I'd make it even shorter than 12 years, but that would be a great start.
.

Term limits won't change a thing. They don't call them Representatives for nothing.

Why didn't you join in on my term limits thread a while ago?

Didn't see it.

I've advocated for a package of term limits, publicly-funded elections and a Balanced Budget Amendment many times.

Either we get serious about this or we don't.
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[beagle9]

Kangaroo court anyone? And what is the horrific crime against America the Liberals have been working so hard to manufacture? That Russia conspired with Trump to steal the election from Hillary? Even if they did, we would owe Russia a debt of gratitude.

It is no longer manufactured. We know of 1 instance where Trump's campaign was willing to conspire with a foreign agent. We don't owe the Russians any gratitude. What that says is that you are no different than Democrats. You just work the opposite side of the street.

. The accusation is that Trump culluded with Vlad, but that hasn't been found, so go after every Russian communication with Americans in order to see if you all can somehow make that into the story now eh ?? Like he said "manufacture something".

 

[LoneLaugher]

There are people participating in this thread who think the Dems are stopping Trump from getting shit done. It is absolutely amazing.

They aren't. He has done quite a lot. They are though, obstructing him as much as they can. Even you can't deny that.

They are opposing him on policy. It's called loyal opposition.

And he hasn't done shit.

If that is "loyal" opposition, I would hate see an opposition that is not loyal.

If he hasn't done shit why does your miserable ilk trying to impeach/kill/embarrass/dump him?

We can't impeach him. That is up to YOUR ilk. He embarrasses himself. Kill him? Drama much? Dump him? Strange.

 

[PredFan]

His base is his base, at least 85% is going to stick with him, because that's what a base does. I'm talking about the internal polling done by Republicans who are in for tough races in 2018. I've been saying all along that those are the polls that matter right now, and that we'll be able to tell how they look by the way those Republicans act towards Trump.

You can argue that those polls are wrong, but Trump is (especially after sacking Priebus) becoming more and more isolated within his own party right now, and he can't pass laws by himself. And given the way he is, that just can't be a surprise.
.

. What we might be seeing is that America was being undermined for so long, that too many players have been put into place over the years, in order to protect the agenda of those who envision an America that will be unrecognizable by those living today. It will be a shiney city on a hill, but the contents will be pure evil. It's already in motion, so let's see if it was to be our destiny or not. All eye's are on Washington now.

Nothing will change in Washington. DC without term limits.

Why is there term limit only for the president? Because the insatiably power hungry cripple amply proved that limitless power by an individual is detrimental to the country.

How come it is not obvious that term limits must be applied to all members of Congress, because they are all insatiably power hungry.

Limit them to 12 years and thank them for their service and say goodbye.

Nothing illustrates how rotten to the core they all than the fact that they all resist the very idea of term limits.

Bingo.

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people would behave the way they do if they didn't have one eye on fundraising and re-election?

Is there ANYONE who really thinks that these people don't build power/influence bases that make re-election easier, regardless of their quality?

There's nothing special about these people. They can be replaced. All of them.

I'd make it even shorter than 12 years, but that would be a great start.
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Term limits won't change a thing. They don't call them Representatives for nothing.

Why didn't you join in on my term limits thread a while ago?

Didn't see it.

I've advocated for a package of term limits, publicly-funded elections and a Balanced Budget Amendment many times.

Either we get serious about this or we don't.
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Term limits accomplish very little and the harm they can do outweighs what little good. The other two items I'm on board with.

 

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There are people participating in this thread who think the Dems are stopping Trump from getting shit done. It is absolutely amazing.

They aren't. He has done quite a lot. They are though, obstructing him as much as they can. Even you can't deny that.

They are opposing him on policy. It's called loyal opposition.

And he hasn't done shit.

If that is "loyal" opposition, I would hate see an opposition that is not loyal.

If he hasn't done shit why does your miserable ilk trying to impeach/kill/embarrass/dump him?

We can't impeach him. That is up to YOUR ilk. He embarrasses himself. Kill him? Drama much? Dump him? Strange.

LOL

I've long been saying that the Democrats couldn't impeach the Dog Catcher........There's that idiot Waters doing her part for the show...........

Nothing but Noise that will continue until the next election cycle............so the American people will do this.

 

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Same Democratic IDIOT............Waters saying she didn't call for impeachment..................

LMAO..................they keep electing these clowns.