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What we are witnessing is a preview of what our healthcare will look like in the future under obamacare. Sick people lost in a inefficient and beaurocratic system.
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By the way - I keep asking this question to every Dumbocrat on USMB and not one of you have been man enough to answer it. Please tell me where is the origin of debt on this?
You never asked me the question, which is pretty easy to answer.
The debt began with Ronald Reagan and his tax cuts for the rich. That started the whole ball of bullshit rolling along. Reagan, Bush41 and Bush43 are responsible for $9 trillion of the debt and Obama is responsible for $8 trillion.
Now fuck off and die!
Not having insurance isn't a choice to be made. No sane person would go without it in this country. Also why breathing oxygen isn't a choice. Hence no freedoms are lost.
Well not now. obama took that choice away. Freedom lost. Derp.
No intelligent person would choose to go without it. Hence, it's not a real choice, just like breathing oxygen really isn't a choice. You can pretend it is, but at the end of the day, you're going to do it anyway.
It's not an outrageous figure. Just a broken leg is $10k. Without insurance, who do you think is paying those bills?
The person who broke their leg should be paying for it. But thanks to welfare baby communists like you, I end up paying for you and your children.
Yes, that would be the "personally responsible" thing to do...hence the individual mandate because if you don't have insurance, I'm paying your bills. It's why the GOP came up with it in the first place.
That's just another one of your bullshit lies, you un-American prick.![]()
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Not the national debt you fuck'n Down syndrome buffoon...
You're perceived notion that myself and others are indebted to you if you decide you have a "need" that you can't afford. Where do you derive this power over the rest of us to make us labor (just like slaves) against our will on your behalf? Where is the origin of your perception of our debt to you and other parasites like you [MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]?
Well not now. obama took that choice away. Freedom lost. Derp.
No intelligent person would choose to go without it. Hence, it's not a real choice, just like breathing oxygen really isn't a choice. You can pretend it is, but at the end of the day, you're going to do it anyway.
You're opinion not withstanding, prior to the (un)aca people had a choice. Now? obama took that choice away. Freedom lost.
You're comparing a reflex bodily function to choosing to purchase a product (or not)?
Please, keep spinning.
That's just another one of your bullshit lies, you un-American prick.![]()
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Not the national debt you fuck'n Down syndrome buffoon...
You're perceived notion that myself and others are indebted to you if you decide you have a "need" that you can't afford. Where do you derive this power over the rest of us to make us labor (just like slaves) against our will on your behalf? Where is the origin of your perception of our debt to you and other parasites like you [MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]?
Are you that stupid that you have to make up your own arguments to argue against?
By the way - I keep asking this question to every Dumbocrat on USMB and not one of you have been man enough to answer it. Please tell me where is the origin of debt on this?
You never asked me the question, which is pretty easy to answer.
The debt began with Ronald Reagan and his tax cuts for the rich. That started the whole ball of bullshit rolling along. Reagan, Bush41 and Bush43 are responsible for $9 trillion of the debt and Obama is responsible for $8 trillion.
Now fuck off and die!
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Not the national debt you fuck'n Down syndrome buffoon...
You're perceived notion that myself and others are indebted to you if you decide you have a "need" that you can't afford. Where do you derive this power over the rest of us to make us labor (just like slaves) against our will on your behalf? Where is the origin of your perception of our debt to you and other parasites like you [MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]?
Well not now. obama took that choice away. Freedom lost. Derp.
No intelligent person would choose to go without it. Hence, it's not a real choice, just like breathing oxygen really isn't a choice. You can pretend it is, but at the end of the day, you're going to do it anyway.
You're opinion not withstanding, prior to the (un)aca people had a choice. Now? obama took that choice away. Freedom lost.
You're comparing a reflex bodily function to choosing to purchase a product (or not)?
Please, keep spinning.
So one type of advertising is okay with you, another isn't. Thanks for admitting your hypocrisy.
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SW - you're really so stupid that you don't understand why one advertises?
Yep - no doubt about it - you've definitely been a dependent of government since becoming an "adult" (and I do use that term lightly).
By the way, thank you for admitting you are a hypocrite (by your own standards). After all, since you approve one type of spending (welfare for you and your children) you must approve ALL forms of spending (Iraq "war").
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Of course I do. Why is Armed Forces advertising different than ACA advertising? Both need healthy young people in order to work. Of course, the Armed Forces advertising costs considerably more than the ACA advertising, 26 Million for the National Guard alone. And how many recruits do they report getting for their big buck sponsorship? None.
It must be fun to make up your own facts.
When you resort to outright lying, you know you've lost.
Apparently there is no limit to your ignorance...
Obamacare leaves millions uninsured. Here?s who they are.
48 Million Americans Are Uninsured Ahead Of Obamacare Changes
48 million Americans without health insurance - Census Bureau 48 million Americans without health insurance, according to Census - Sep. 17, 2013
CBO: Obamacare Will Leave 30 Million Uninsured | CNS News
Uh Oh: 36 Percent of Uninsured Americans "Do Not Plan" to Seek Coverage Through Obamacare - Guy Benson
If this were a prize fight, you would have suffered a first round knock out a long time ago son. Now it's just a blood bath. Please have your corner throw in the towel. I'm actually feeling bad about mangling you so horribly here.
You said uninsured by choice. Big difference. Of course you have failed again.
Apparently there is no limit to your ignorance...
Obamacare leaves millions uninsured. Here?s who they are.
48 Million Americans Are Uninsured Ahead Of Obamacare Changes
48 million Americans without health insurance - Census Bureau 48 million Americans without health insurance, according to Census - Sep. 17, 2013
CBO: Obamacare Will Leave 30 Million Uninsured | CNS News
Uh Oh: 36 Percent of Uninsured Americans "Do Not Plan" to Seek Coverage Through Obamacare - Guy Benson
If this were a prize fight, you would have suffered a first round knock out a long time ago son. Now it's just a blood bath. Please have your corner throw in the towel. I'm actually feeling bad about mangling you so horribly here.
You said uninsured by choice. Big difference. Of course you have failed again.
I said a PORTION choose to not carry insurance you fuck'n buffoon and that is an undeniable FACT. You continue to expose your ignorance to the world [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]
No intelligent person would choose to go without it. Hence, it's not a real choice, just like breathing oxygen really isn't a choice. You can pretend it is, but at the end of the day, you're going to do it anyway.
You're opinion not withstanding, prior to the (un)aca people had a choice. Now? obama took that choice away. Freedom lost.
You're comparing a reflex bodily function to choosing to purchase a product (or not)?
Please, keep spinning.
And that "choice" made my premiums increase, year after year. You may not be about personal responsibility, but I am not about to subsidize the cost of healthcare for people who can afford to pay for insurance but "choose" not to. No real freedoms are lost, but my freedom from your selfish choices are gained.
No intelligent person would choose to go without it. Hence, it's not a real choice, just like breathing oxygen really isn't a choice. You can pretend it is, but at the end of the day, you're going to do it anyway.
You're opinion not withstanding, prior to the (un)aca people had a choice. Now? obama took that choice away. Freedom lost.
You're comparing a reflex bodily function to choosing to purchase a product (or not)?
Please, keep spinning.
And that "choice" made my premiums increase, year after year. You may not be about personal responsibility, but I am not about to subsidize the cost of healthcare for people who can afford to pay for insurance but "choose" not to. No real freedoms are lost, but my freedom from your selfish choices are gained.
No shit. But the mandate will result in more people having insurance and for those who still choose to be idiots and intentionally not purchase insurance then the penalty is in place to at least offset their lack of personal responsibility to some degree.You're opinion not withstanding, prior to the (un)aca people had a choice. Now? obama took that choice away. Freedom lost.
You're comparing a reflex bodily function to choosing to purchase a product (or not)?
Please, keep spinning.
And that "choice" made my premiums increase, year after year. You may not be about personal responsibility, but I am not about to subsidize the cost of healthcare for people who can afford to pay for insurance but "choose" not to. No real freedoms are lost, but my freedom from your selfish choices are gained.
And you think that the (un)aca will change that, don't you?Sucker.
Newflash, skippy. You're still subsidizing the cost of others insurance.
Personal responsibility?? I've always had insurance, everyone of my family members have always had insurance ... even when they had to purchase an individual policy themselves. They had the freedom of choice to select what coverage worked best for them. Now? They have to pay for things they do not need, provides zero benefit to them, and jacks their premiums. Freedom of choice, lost. Thanks obama.
Spin away, little spider.
You're opinion not withstanding, prior to the (un)aca people had a choice. Now? obama took that choice away. Freedom lost.
You're comparing a reflex bodily function to choosing to purchase a product (or not)?
Please, keep spinning.
And that "choice" made my premiums increase, year after year. You may not be about personal responsibility, but I am not about to subsidize the cost of healthcare for people who can afford to pay for insurance but "choose" not to. No real freedoms are lost, but my freedom from your selfish choices are gained.
So you get to take choice away from people because you're too inept to get a job that pays enough for you avoid your premium? Really Adolf? Is that how that works? You get to take choice away from people simply because you don't like the cost of something?
And these assholes claim they are not communists? Holy Jesus, this is the very definition of communism here. I'm going to FORCE you to do something because I can't afford something.![]()
You said uninsured by choice. Big difference. Of course you have failed again.
I said a PORTION choose to not carry insurance you fuck'n buffoon and that is an undeniable FACT. You continue to expose your ignorance to the world [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]
And none of your links you shared support any of the garbage coming out of your mouth.