The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

Again, the fate of world freedom is on the brink, and American gun ownership is the only thing holding back the oppressors.

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Japan is a democracy, a free country. But when it comes to firearms, they have the same laws that are proposed here. Freedom is not about gun ownership.
The Japanese are much more of one culture. They have their ways like most people of the world. But they are much more respectful and clean up behind themselves just to start. There is more garbage in the streets of a few blocks of Baltimore then in the whole city of Tokyo. I always love the comparisons when it is in the favor of Progs. Progs hate the whites and then compare the socialism that seems to work in nations affected. Tell that to the nations of Central America, the Islands, Mexico, South America, Africa, parts of Europe and many parts of Asia where it does not.
On top of that, Japan relies on our military for protection.

Half the world relies on our military for protection.

Our military is under the control of our government, and WE THE PEOPLE keep it in check because we are armed.

I am SICK of this FACT being ignored and dismissed.

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Only 31% of households in the United States have guns. They don't keep anything in check, let alone the U.S. military that would easily slaughter them in a shoot out.

Good luck with that. There were an estimated 357 million firearms in this country in 2013, with a population of 317 million. That rounds out to about 113 guns per 100 people, or 1.13 guns per person. And since gun sales have been increasing faster than the population, the divide has likely only massively widened since then.

Now your statistics give a 31% number, which would mean that those 31% own an average of 3 firearms. That's BS. I don't know anyone who owns a measly 3 firearms. Most people in my neck of the woods own anywhere between 10-50.

Someone's math isn't adding up.

Well, then according to your math I guess as little as 2% of the households in the United States own firearms. Or maybe its 10%. Either way, the non-gun owning households have the numbers to change the laws and restrict gun ownership for the smaller minority!
 
The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

In order to purchase a firearm, an individual must do the following:

01. Attend three month class on firearms

02. Pass a written test when the class has been completed

03. Achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test

04. Pass a Mental Health evaluation at a hospital

05. Pass a background check in which the government digs into their criminal record

06. Pass a background check involving interviews with friends and family

07. Only shotguns and Air Rifles may be purchased, no handguns

08. New magazines can only be purchased by trading in empty ones

09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms

10. Every three years, the individual must pass the above tests and investigations
“09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms”

To whom?

The government?

“Must surrender” means through force of law – and absent due process and just compensation such a law would be in violation of the 5th Amendment’s Takings Clause.

To make the Takings Clause moot, the possession of all guns must be made illegal, rendering firearms contraband – which would violate the Second Amendment.

Moreover, how would government know where the guns of a deceased family member are, how would government enforce the “must surrender” law? In order to enforce the law a search warrant would be needed predicated upon probable cause as to the location of the now illegal guns.

Are you proposing to amend the Constitution to repeal the 4th and 5th Amendments along with the Second?

In order to own a shotgun or Air Rifle, the owner must show the local police department where he safely stores his weapon.

The constitution can be amended as needed so society can be safer from firearm owning civilians.
And how will CLEO know the gunowner is consistently following the law with regard to safely storing a firearm?

There are those pesky 4th and 5th Amendments again.
 
The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

In order to purchase a firearm, an individual must do the following:

01. Attend three month class on firearms

02. Pass a written test when the class has been completed

03. Achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test

04. Pass a Mental Health evaluation at a hospital

05. Pass a background check in which the government digs into their criminal record

06. Pass a background check involving interviews with friends and family

07. Only shotguns and Air Rifles may be purchased, no handguns

08. New magazines can only be purchased by trading in empty ones

09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms

10. Every three years, the individual must pass the above tests and investigations


This is hilarious although this is a lib fantasy and dream.
 
The Japanese are much more of one culture. They have their ways like most people of the world
Given the realities of Japanese history and culture, it is impossible to demonstrate a necessary relationship between the gun laws they have the their low-level of gun-related crime.
If Japan is not a good enough demonstration, then Canada will do. Sensible gun control, reducing the number of guns available to civilians, does reduce firearm violence.
Heh.
You also cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship between Canada's gun laws and its relatively low rate of gun violence.
You would say that about any gun law for any country, but its not true.
OK then:
Demonstrate the necessary relationship between Canada's gun laws and its relatively low rate of gun violence.
 
The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

In order to purchase a firearm, an individual must do the following:

01. Attend three month class on firearms

02. Pass a written test when the class has been completed

03. Achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test

04. Pass a Mental Health evaluation at a hospital

05. Pass a background check in which the government digs into their criminal record

06. Pass a background check involving interviews with friends and family

07. Only shotguns and Air Rifles may be purchased, no handguns

08. New magazines can only be purchased by trading in empty ones

09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms

10. Every three years, the individual must pass the above tests and investigations
What the United States needs are constructive, viable solutions to the problem of gun crime and violence unrelated to the regulation of firearms.


we already have them.......

1) Felons can't own guns

2) The dangerously mentally ill can't own guns when they have been through due process to make that determination.

3) It is against the law to use a gun to commit a crime, rape, robbery and murder......

We already have all the laws we need to stop gun crime....where it falls apart is when the democrat judges let repeat gun offenders out of jail in days on Individual Recognizance Bonds, and out of prison on light sentences, often created by democrat prosecutors who bargain away the gun charge.

If we locked up actual gun criminals for life if they use a gun for a crime, and 15-30 for felons who are caught with illegal guns....that would dry up gun crime over night.....

But that isn't what you guys care about..... you know when we catch a criminal with a gun, you get to keep that gun...

What drives you f*****g insane, are all the guns you can't touch....because the millions of gun owners do not use them for crime...so you create new legal hoops, new fees, taxes and regulations that will turn those law abiding gun owners into criminals...so you can then get their guns....even though they didn't commit a crime with those guns....
 
The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

In order to purchase a firearm, an individual must do the following:

01. Attend three month class on firearms

02. Pass a written test when the class has been completed

03. Achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test

04. Pass a Mental Health evaluation at a hospital

05. Pass a background check in which the government digs into their criminal record

06. Pass a background check involving interviews with friends and family

07. Only shotguns and Air Rifles may be purchased, no handguns

08. New magazines can only be purchased by trading in empty ones

09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms

10. Every three years, the individual must pass the above tests and investigations

We should focus on trying to keep weapons from hate mongers not educating them.

1. Military style weapons should be banned and any other variants should be banned.

2. Magazines should be limited to 15 rounds maximum.

3. Background checks should include social media posts
I assume you know that ALL firearms are designed for military use, or were derived from those designed for military use. So, what you're saying is, you want a complete ban?

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Everyone knows what we are talking about you idiot.
 
The constitution can be amended as needed so society can be safer from firearm owning civilians.
Why do you think you can get 38 states to agree with you?

01. Because the number of households that own guns has fallen from 50% in 1977 to 31% in 2014.

02. The non-gun owning population have the numbers on their side.

03. It will be the majority vs. the minority.

04. The NRA and gun owners continue to resist any regulation while mass shootings increase shocking the public.

05. The media and non-gun owning population will eventually be able to get the laws and regulations in place that they want. Its only a matter of time.
 
The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

In order to purchase a firearm, an individual must do the following:

01. Attend three month class on firearms

02. Pass a written test when the class has been completed

03. Achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test

04. Pass a Mental Health evaluation at a hospital

05. Pass a background check in which the government digs into their criminal record

06. Pass a background check involving interviews with friends and family

07. Only shotguns and Air Rifles may be purchased, no handguns

08. New magazines can only be purchased by trading in empty ones

09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms

10. Every three years, the individual must pass the above tests and investigations

We should focus on trying to keep weapons from hate mongers not educating them.

1. Military style weapons should be banned and any other variants should be banned.

2. Magazines should be limited to 15 rounds maximum.

3. Background checks should include social media posts
I assume you know that ALL firearms are designed for military use, or were derived from those designed for military use. So, what you're saying is, you want a complete ban?

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Everyone knows what we are talking about you idiot.

No, libs want all kinds of types of gun bans.
 
Japan is a democracy, a free country. But when it comes to firearms, they have the same laws that are proposed here. Freedom is not about gun ownership.
The Japanese are much more of one culture. They have their ways like most people of the world. But they are much more respectful and clean up behind themselves just to start. There is more garbage in the streets of a few blocks of Baltimore then in the whole city of Tokyo. I always love the comparisons when it is in the favor of Progs. Progs hate the whites and then compare the socialism that seems to work in nations affected. Tell that to the nations of Central America, the Islands, Mexico, South America, Africa, parts of Europe and many parts of Asia where it does not.
On top of that, Japan relies on our military for protection.

Half the world relies on our military for protection.

Our military is under the control of our government, and WE THE PEOPLE keep it in check because we are armed.

I am SICK of this FACT being ignored and dismissed.

.

Only 31% of households in the United States have guns. They don't keep anything in check, let alone the U.S. military that would easily slaughter them in a shoot out.

Good luck with that. There were an estimated 357 million firearms in this country in 2013, with a population of 317 million. That rounds out to about 113 guns per 100 people, or 1.13 guns per person. And since gun sales have been increasing faster than the population, the divide has likely only massively widened since then.

Now your statistics give a 31% number, which would mean that those 31% own an average of 3 firearms. That's BS. I don't know anyone who owns a measly 3 firearms. Most people in my neck of the woods own anywhere between 10-50.

Someone's math isn't adding up.

Well, then according to your math I guess as little as 2% of the households in the United States own firearms. Or maybe its 10%. Either way, the non-gun owning households have the numbers to change the laws and restrict gun ownership for the smaller minority!
The United States is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy – citizens’ rights and protected liberties are not subject to majority rule.

Indeed, Constitutional case law exists to protect the minority from government excess and overreach, to protect the minority from the capricious whims of the majority.
 
I would say at 100 meters. Again, were trying to reduce the number of civilians that own firearms.
For no demonstrably necessary or effective reason whatsoever.
According to you and gun nuts.
But mostly, according to your inability to make such a demonstration.

According to you. This is the future of gun control whether you like it or not. Its only a matter of time. Most people don't own guns, and they don't want nutty gun owning civilians making their lives less safe.
 
The constitution can be amended as needed so society can be safer from firearm owning civilians.
Why do you think you can get 38 states to agree with you?
01. Because the number of households that own guns has fallen from 50% in 1977 to 31% in 2014.
02. The non-gun owning population have the numbers on their side.
03. It will be the majority vs. the minority.
04. The NRA and gun owners continue to resist any regulation while mass shootings increase shocking the public.
05. The media and non-gun owning population will eventually be able to get the laws and regulations in place that they want. Its only a matter of time.
So, you have no - rational - reason to believe 38 states will agree with you and repeal the 2nd.
Thanks.
 
The Japanese are much more of one culture. They have their ways like most people of the world. But they are much more respectful and clean up behind themselves just to start. There is more garbage in the streets of a few blocks of Baltimore then in the whole city of Tokyo. I always love the comparisons when it is in the favor of Progs. Progs hate the whites and then compare the socialism that seems to work in nations affected. Tell that to the nations of Central America, the Islands, Mexico, South America, Africa, parts of Europe and many parts of Asia where it does not.
On top of that, Japan relies on our military for protection.

Half the world relies on our military for protection.

Our military is under the control of our government, and WE THE PEOPLE keep it in check because we are armed.

I am SICK of this FACT being ignored and dismissed.

.

Only 31% of households in the United States have guns. They don't keep anything in check, let alone the U.S. military that would easily slaughter them in a shoot out.

Good luck with that. There were an estimated 357 million firearms in this country in 2013, with a population of 317 million. That rounds out to about 113 guns per 100 people, or 1.13 guns per person. And since gun sales have been increasing faster than the population, the divide has likely only massively widened since then.

Now your statistics give a 31% number, which would mean that those 31% own an average of 3 firearms. That's BS. I don't know anyone who owns a measly 3 firearms. Most people in my neck of the woods own anywhere between 10-50.

Someone's math isn't adding up.

Well, then according to your math I guess as little as 2% of the households in the United States own firearms. Or maybe its 10%. Either way, the non-gun owning households have the numbers to change the laws and restrict gun ownership for the smaller minority!
The United States is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy – citizens’ rights and protected liberties are not subject to majority rule.

Indeed, Constitutional case law exists to protect the minority from government excess and overreach, to protect the minority from the capricious whims of the majority.

Any part of the constitution can be amended if you get enough votes. That's the reality. The non-gun owning population, at 70% and rising, will at some point in the future, demand these laws and regulations. Its only a matter of time.
 
I would say at 100 meters. Again, were trying to reduce the number of civilians that own firearms.
For no demonstrably necessary or effective reason whatsoever.
According to you and gun nuts.
But mostly, according to your inability to make such a demonstration.
According to you.
No... according to YOU, as evidenced by your inability to demonstrate the necessity and efficacy of the nonsense you present here.
 
The Gun Control Laws The United States Needs

In order to purchase a firearm, an individual must do the following:

01. Attend three month class on firearms

02. Pass a written test when the class has been completed

03. Achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test

04. Pass a Mental Health evaluation at a hospital

05. Pass a background check in which the government digs into their criminal record

06. Pass a background check involving interviews with friends and family

07. Only shotguns and Air Rifles may be purchased, no handguns

08. New magazines can only be purchased by trading in empty ones

09. When a gun owner dies, their relatives must surrender the deceased members firearms

10. Every three years, the individual must pass the above tests and investigations



95% accuracy? from what distance? most cases of self defense are within a couple feet ....not 50 yards so please specify.
Not everyone can wield a shotgun so if your some disabled person in a wheelchair it would be much more difficult to protect yourself. An air rifle? what good is that going to do you in a home invasion?
Competency tests and background checks are fine. thats about it, no need to harass people though as you would like.

I would say at 100 meters. Again, were trying to reduce the number of civilians that own firearms. What will save and defend people is the reduction of the number of weapons in circulation. You can still kill someone with an Air Rifle. But hopefully you'll be using other methods because the home invader will not be armed with a firearm.

We want to make it more difficult for the average civilian to use firearms and own them. Its civilians that cause the most problems with firearms in society. That's why these gun control measures are needed.


I'm thinking you dont know very much about guns. DO you know what the dispertion rate of shotgun pellets is at 100 meters? its going to be about an 8 foot patern.

Your going to disarm law abiding civilians while the thugs and gangs who do home invasion robberies are not going to stop in to take their mental exam. You are going to create the largest black market for illegal firearms you could imagine.
 
Any part of the constitution can be amended if you get enough votes. That's the reality. The non-gun owning population, at 70% and rising, will at some point in the future, demand these laws and regulations. Its only a matter of time.
It takes 13 states to stop an amendment.
The 13 states most likely to vote against a repeal of the 2nd - that is, the 13 most pro-gun states - contain about 7% of the US population.
Why do you think you will get 38 states to agree with you?
 
The constitution can be amended as needed so society can be safer from firearm owning civilians.
Why do you think you can get 38 states to agree with you?
01. Because the number of households that own guns has fallen from 50% in 1977 to 31% in 2014.
02. The non-gun owning population have the numbers on their side.
03. It will be the majority vs. the minority.
04. The NRA and gun owners continue to resist any regulation while mass shootings increase shocking the public.
05. The media and non-gun owning population will eventually be able to get the laws and regulations in place that they want. Its only a matter of time.
So, you have no - rational - reason to believe 38 states will agree with you and repeal the 2nd.
Thanks.


I just listed it for you. 70% of households don't own guns. This statistic is on the rise. Naturally, non-gun owning households don't want other civilians making their lives less safe by owning guns. You'll easily have more than 38 states in the future for this. At some point, you'll get all 50.

This country changed the laws when it came to slavery, eventually it will change the laws when it comes to owning firearms.
 

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