The Left Loses Ground...

[NYcarbineer]

Skylar, let me help you through this. If I cite that the speed limit on I-75 is 70 Mph... that such is stated as my opinion, in no way alters that the speed limit on I-75 is 70 Mph.

You're not citing a speed limit. You're making up a non-existent 'natural law of marriage'. There's no such thing. There is no marriage in nature.

We invented marriage. And we define it. And in 37 states marriage includes one man and one man, or one woman and one woman.

You disagree. Um, so what? We don't base our laws on your subjective opinion.

False skylar, that is NOT all I do. I state the opinion, then I substantiate that opinion by setting it upon the underlying reasoning that formed the opinion.

That underlying opinion....being another one of your opinions. Which is based on another opinion. Which is based on another opinion. Its turtles all the way down. No where is there any objective requirements that match your descriptions.

For example: your 'natural law of marriage'. When you describe it.....you talk about fucking. Mating. Procreation. That's not marriage. That's breeding. They aren't the same thing. You don't need to be married to breed. And you don't need to breed to be married.

Procreation isn't a requirement of anyone's marriage. Infertile couples are allowed to marry all the time. Infertile couples or couples that have no children are allowed to stay married by the millions. So why would we exclude gays from marriage based on a criteria that doesn't exist and apply to *no one*?

Obviously we wouldn't. Your argument is nothing but a fallacy: your opinion offered as 'objective law'. Which it isn't. Its just your opinion.

You can't get around that.

Marriage is already defined. What faggots are doing is redefining it.

"Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there, because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie. The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change, and again, I don’t think it should exist." - Masha Gessen.

So, here is the question. Why gays want to marry anyways?

Marriage has constantly being redefined throughout the history of this nation. Your wife is no longer your property, interracial marriages are now legal, polygamy has been made illegal.

Marriage was not defined as one man/one woman. It was redefined as one man/one woman.

Marriage is not 're-definable' Gilligan. It is a law of nature. Meaning that Marriage is, what Nature created marriage as: The Joining of One Man and One Woman.

The Pretense that humanity has some means to alter the laws of nature, will simply produce the same Chaos, Calamity and Catastrophe that has always followed such evil... and int he wake of what ever is manifested by such, humanity will return to the same policy that it has always returned to, when humanity has "RE-LEARNED" the simple lesson that the Laws of Nature, are NOT suggestions and they're not OPTIONAL.

If marriage is not 're-definable', how did polygamy get re-defined as not marriage?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Reasonable people understand when tolerance is appropriate, and when it's not.

Yes... Which is why I pointed out that Americans do not demand that tolerance is sacrosanct as does that cult of children and fools on the Left.

To tolerate intolerance is to be intolerant.

Reader, Recall that my position is that The Left holds up "Tolerance" as sacrosanct, while being among the most intolerant cult in Human History. Recall, that just 60 years ago, the Ideological Left murdered 150 MILLION innocent human beings, whose only crime was that they were not inclined to accept communism.

Atrocities which stand unparalleled in human history and set the Left's "Tolerance" at roughly equal to that of EBOLA.

Truly, in every sense of the word, "Left-think" ... is a disorder of the human mind; OKA: a Disease.

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes... Which is why I pointed out that Americans do not demand that tolerance is sacrosanct as does that cult of children and fools on the Left.

To tolerate intolerance is to be intolerant.

Reader, Recall that my position is that The Left holds up "Tolerance" as sacrosanct, while being among the most intolerant cult in Human History. Recall, that just 60 years ago, the Ideological Left murdered 150 MILLION innocent human beings, whose only crime was that they were not inclined to accept communism.

Atrocities which stand unparalleled in human history and set the Left's "Tolerance" at roughly equal to that of EBOLA.

Truly, in every sense of the word, "Left-think" ... is a disorder of the human mind; OKA: a Disease.

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

ROFLMNAO... Poor Gilligan.

It's still struggling to accept the history of its cult.

The Ideological Left has for 40 years advocated for THE RIGHT to murder the most innocent of human life... Which GILLIGAN ITSELF CLAIMS IS NOT HUMAN BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THEM: "they're not "PERSONS".

And what is this right set upon? Why it's set upon the RIGHT TO PRIVACY... And that these non-persons are INCONVENIENT!

Now what makes this worse is that these people claim a right to murder their own pre-born children while they're still in their womb! AAND WHATS MORE... Many of the cult are demanding a "RIGHT" to murder their children AFTER THEYRE BORN!

Understand Reader, if these idiots will rationalize a right to murder their own children who are still in their mother's womb because they're INCONVENIENT ... There's nothing between that rationalization and ONE WHICH RATIONALIZES
TO MURDER THOSE WHO ARE NOT THEIR CHILDREN... Who represent an inconvenience.

Now Gilligan, was that what you were looking for?

Oh! FYI: since the early 70s... The Left has murdered 50 MILLION PRE-BORN BABIES in the US ALONE.

I hope that helps

So you can't name ONE name. lol. Case closed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

To tolerate intolerance is to be intolerant.

Reader, Recall that my position is that The Left holds up "Tolerance" as sacrosanct, while being among the most intolerant cult in Human History. Recall, that just 60 years ago, the Ideological Left murdered 150 MILLION innocent human beings, whose only crime was that they were not inclined to accept communism.

Atrocities which stand unparalleled in human history and set the Left's "Tolerance" at roughly equal to that of EBOLA.

Truly, in every sense of the word, "Left-think" ... is a disorder of the human mind; OKA: a Disease.

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

As you are a Korean, you cannot run from those stains.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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You totally misunderstood my statement. Government can regulate marriage, but it shouldn't be defining or redefining it. That's not its job. It's job is neither to promote nor endorse one type of marriage or the other. That's why the founders put no specific language in the Constitution dealing with marriage. Their foresight again is impeccable and prophetic.

Tell that to your conservative pals who want to AMEND THE CONSTITUTION to narrowly define marriage.

Marriage is defined by the Natural Human Physiological Design; wherein One Man is Joined with One Woman.

There is no such limited definition of marriage, except in that cantaloupe you call your brain.

 

[NYcarbineer]

To tolerate intolerance is to be intolerant.

Reader, Recall that my position is that The Left holds up "Tolerance" as sacrosanct, while being among the most intolerant cult in Human History. Recall, that just 60 years ago, the Ideological Left murdered 150 MILLION innocent human beings, whose only crime was that they were not inclined to accept communism.

Atrocities which stand unparalleled in human history and set the Left's "Tolerance" at roughly equal to that of EBOLA.

Truly, in every sense of the word, "Left-think" ... is a disorder of the human mind; OKA: a Disease.

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reader, Recall that my position is that The Left holds up "Tolerance" as sacrosanct, while being among the most intolerant cult in Human History. Recall, that just 60 years ago, the Ideological Left murdered 150 MILLION innocent human beings, whose only crime was that they were not inclined to accept communism.

Atrocities which stand unparalleled in human history and set the Left's "Tolerance" at roughly equal to that of EBOLA.

Truly, in every sense of the word, "Left-think" ... is a disorder of the human mind; OKA: a Disease.

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

As you are a Korean, you cannot run from those stains.

I nailed you, huh?

Slink away, NYLiar.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reader, Recall that my position is that The Left holds up "Tolerance" as sacrosanct, while being among the most intolerant cult in Human History. Recall, that just 60 years ago, the Ideological Left murdered 150 MILLION innocent human beings, whose only crime was that they were not inclined to accept communism.

Atrocities which stand unparalleled in human history and set the Left's "Tolerance" at roughly equal to that of EBOLA.

Truly, in every sense of the word, "Left-think" ... is a disorder of the human mind; OKA: a Disease.

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

I'm an American.

And you?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who on the left in America today wants to kill 150 million people?

Name names. Name a thousand names.

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

I'm an American.

And you?

You cannot, by your own standard, escape the stain of your horrible people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Waldo Frank’s analysis in 1934:
"The NRA is the beginning of American Fascism. But unlikeItaly and Germany, democratic parliamentarianism has for generations been strong in the Anglo-Saxon world; it is a tribal institution. Therefore, a Fascism that disposes of it, rather than
sharpens and exploits it, is not to be expected in North Americaor Britain. Fascism may be so gradual in the United Statesthat most voters will not be aware of its existence. The true Fascist leaders will not be present imitators of German Fuhrer and Italian condottieri, prancing in silver shirts. They will bejudicious, black-frocked gentlemen; graduates of the best universities; disciples of Nicholas Murray Butler and WalterLippmann."
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-facism/page/7/0


Just as you Progressives has no compunction with respect to forced sterilizations and concentration camps for the Japanese-Americans, when the time comes, and the orders from above, you'll fall in line and nod 'yes sir, yes sir.'

That is the outcome when you worship the collective.

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

I'm an American.

And you?

You cannot, by your own standard, escape the stain of your horrible people.

I've really made you sensitive about being known as a serial liar, huh?

Great.

 

[LoneLaugher]

There was a time when I thought this joker was just being contrarian with this line of reasoning. I now know that he's entirely serious. He truly believes that his right to be a bigot should be protected in the same way as the rights of others to be treated equally and fairly are protected.

Tell me something:

You want tolerance and understanding from people like me for gays, right? You want for me not to be a bigot and treat gays equally. So, how you would launching a character assassination against me convince me to do that, with someone like you acting as their champion?

Gays want to escape the bigotry and intolerance they are subjected to, correct? Then why is it, when they have been liberated from such oppression, that they become the very thing they wished to escape from?

I wonder, would you call a Muslim a bigot to his face if he refused service to a gay couple?

Yes.

 

[NYcarbineer]

How did you determine that I support forced sterilization and concentration camps?

Or are you just lying as usual?

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

I'm an American.

And you?

You cannot, by your own standard, escape the stain of your horrible people.

I've really made you sensitive about being known as a serial liar, huh?

Great.

I reduce you to another monkey jabber.

When will you apologize for your role in the brutal murder of American soldiers in Korea?

 

[LoneLaugher]

You want tolerance and understanding from people like me for gays, right? You want for me not to be a bigot and treat gays equally. So, how you would launching a character assassination against me convince me to do that, with someone like you acting as their champion?

Gays want to escape the bigotry and intolerance they are subjected to, correct? Then why is it, when they have been liberated from such oppression, that they become the very thing they wished to escape from?

Very good and fair points.

I'm pro-gay marriage (actually I don't really give a shit, so by default that is "pro") but it's frustrating to see the Left resort to virtually nothing else but personal insults and name-calling on pretty much every issue. Surely, at some intellectual level, they must realize that treating people like that ("you're just a racist!") is only going to make things worse, yet they persist. It's like getting a child to stop doing something, they simply will not listen.

My theory is they're going to continue to behave like this under the assumption that demographics will do their work for them, that they don't really need to be decent and civil. I can see the strategy, I guess, but it still isn't a way to deal with people.

.

Bullshit.

 

[NYcarbineer]

934 posts later and ZERO evidence that the left has lost ground.

I think this thread stands as incontestable proof that the left has not lost ground.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As you are a Liberal/Progressive, you cannot run from the stain.

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

I'm an American.

And you?

You cannot, by your own standard, escape the stain of your horrible people.

I've really made you sensitive about being known as a serial liar, huh?

Great.

I reduce you to another monkey jabber.

When will you apologize for your role in the brutal murder of American soldiers in Korea?

As I said, I'm an American.


Interesting you won't respond to 'what are you?'

 

[PoliticalChic]

934 posts later and ZERO evidence that the left has lost ground.

I think this thread stands as incontestable proof that the left has not lost ground.

So THAT'S why you're known a the NYLiar!

 

[NYcarbineer]

[

You totally misunderstood my statement. Government can regulate marriage, but it shouldn't be defining or redefining it. That's not its job. It's job is neither to promote nor endorse one type of marriage or the other. That's why the founders put no specific language in the Constitution dealing with marriage. Their foresight again is impeccable and prophetic.

Tell that to your conservative pals who want to AMEND THE CONSTITUTION to narrowly define marriage.

Marriage is defined by the Natural Human Physiological Design; wherein One Man is Joined with One Woman.

No it's not. Civil Marriage is defined by whatever the government says it's defined as. Since in the US we have a government of the People,

the People define marriage.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Have you apologized for this?

American chaplain prays over American soldiers executed by the Korean monkeys.

I'm an American.

And you?

You cannot, by your own standard, escape the stain of your horrible people.

I've really made you sensitive about being known as a serial liar, huh?

Great.

I reduce you to another monkey jabber.

When will you apologize for your role in the brutal murder of American soldiers in Korea?

As I said, I'm an American.


Interesting you won't respond to 'what are you?'

You're a Korean and Koreans murdered American soldiers. It's YOUR standard that proclaims you guilty, not mine.

Perhaps you should revise your standard.

 

[NYcarbineer]

934 posts later and ZERO evidence that the left has lost ground.

I think this thread stands as incontestable proof that the left has not lost ground.

So THAT'S why you're known a the NYLiar!

Really? Do you deny the Holocaust as well?