The Myth of Voter ‘Fraud’ – More Ignorance and Lies From Trump

[protectionist]

Now they're selling votes for crack.

Illinois Woman Catches Democrat Voter Fraud in St. Clair County -- Where They Have a History of Selling Votes for Crack

And in Georgia:

Voter Fraud: 670 Ballots Cast in Georgia Precinct with 276 Voters

Voter fraud database - It's over 1,000 >>

Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

Duplicate voting. Yup. That too. …

http://g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Voter-Fraud-Final-with-Appendix-1.pdf

Immigration = Votes for Democrats

ftp://repec.iza.org/RePEc/Discussionpaper/dp9543.pdf

 

[protectionist]

i see the Little Trumpster kool-aid drinkers are again showing their utterly unbelievable gullibility.
Trump ended his own investigation panel because they could come up with shit.
Yet, there a tens of voter fraud investigations from the right/left and center, that say voter fraud is not even close to what you wahoo's claim.
The right wing Heritage Foundations investigation showed less than 0.05% of voter fraud.
The Heritage Foundation
Out of 135 million votes they found 1177 proven instances of fraud.

They didn't examine 135 million votes, or anything near that many. And this thread is overflowing with investigations links of voter fraud, that show it is rampant, all over the country.

Try reading the thread before you post. You were refuted about 50 times, before you ever came in here.

 

[Markle]

Aliens are not allowed to vote.

You are lying about the cost of voter ID.

I'm not allowed to speed either but I have an old ticket that shows 104 mph. How did that happen?

Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Monday, June 19, 2017
A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

 

[Crepitus]

Lol, a conservative think tank supports conservative fantasies?

Who'da thunk it!

 

[protectionist]

Lol, a conservative think tank supports conservative fantasies?

Who'da thunk it!

Don't be stupid. Where do you think reports of alien voter fraud are going to be ? In the New York Times ? Get real.

And this thread is now loaded with links to investigative reports of this stuff. (and you haven't read a single one of them) Voter fraud is all over the place. Denying it at this point, just makes you look ridiculous,

 

[protectionist]

Some people are speculating that Florida governor Rick Scott (now elected to the US Senate) didn't fire vote fraud woman Brenda Snipes out of fear of being called a racist. I don't know if that's true. I cant see any logical reason why he wouldn't have fired her 2 years ago, when she was caught dumping ballots.

Anyone who would hesitate to act because of fear of being called a racist, has no business in political office, period. Hopefully Scott will be strong in the Senate. Maybe he's learned his lesson.

 

[Billy000]

‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

.

Stop pretending you thought this was an issue before the GOP told you it was right before Obama’s second term. Hmm what interesting timing! You’d think if It was a real crisis, the brilliant GOP would have caught years prior!

 

[OKTexas]

‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

.

Stop pretending you thought this was an issue before the GOP told you it was right before Obama’s second term. Hmm what interesting timing! You’d think if It was a real crisis, the brilliant GOP would have caught years prior!

Been talking to my congresscritters about it long before your mulatto messiah was even a tingle up your leg. Right now and since stupid willie signed the motor voter bill, the VRA has been a fucking suicide pact. Now you have commie CA openly registering non-citizens and fucking bragging about it.

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[Ame®icano]

‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

 

[Crepitus]

Lol, a conservative think tank supports conservative fantasies?

Who'da thunk it!

Don't be stupid. Where do you think reports of alien voter fraud are going to be ? In the New York Times ? Get real.

And this thread is now loaded with links to investigative reports of this stuff. (and you haven't read a single one of them) Voter fraud is all over the place. Denying it at this point, just makes you look ridiculous,

Non-issue. The OP cites Infowars. Almost guaranteed to be out and out lies, and if not so distorted as to be as good as out and out lies.

 

[frigidweirdo]

All it takes is a few votes to change an outcome. Even one persons’ vote being washed out by an illegal vote is one too many and outrageous.
DOJ Charges Nearly Two Dozen Illegal Aliens for Voting in the 2016 Election

‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

.

Most states already require ID to vote.

Next whine...?

The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.

Same way you need to register to purchase a firearm, which is also a constitutionally protected right. The problem for the brain-dead right is that we already have such requirements for voting at the state level and they can’t find adequate proof that illegal voting is anywhere near as rampant as they claim to warrant such an outrageous stunt as a federal voter ID.

Shit, even Republicans are against it as they could have submitted such legislation at anytime during the 6½ years while the controlled both chambers of Congress and the Executive branch in recent times — and they chose not to.

Outrageous because you can only see outrage in what you want.

So, an illegal voting is outrageous.

The Republicans starting with a 3 million vote head start is fine.

Gerrymandering is fine.

Ridiculous.

 

[dudmuck]

All it takes is a few votes to change an outcome. Even one persons’ vote being washed out by an illegal vote is one too many and outrageous.
DOJ Charges Nearly Two Dozen Illegal Aliens for Voting in the 2016 Election

‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

.

Most states already require ID to vote.

Next whine...?

The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.

Same way you need to register to purchase a firearm, which is also a constitutionally protected right. The problem for the brain-dead right is that we already have such requirements for voting at the state level and they can’t find adequate proof that illegal voting is anywhere near as rampant as they claim to warrant such an outrageous stunt as a federal voter ID.

Shit, even Republicans are against it as they could have submitted such legislation at anytime during the 6½ years while the controlled both chambers of Congress and the Executive branch in recent times — and they chose not to.

But we were told there were millions of illegal votes?

Those nearly two dozen were documented, lawful permanent residents. They likely shouldnt have voted, but they're not illegal aliens.

Far bigger problem is legitimate US citizens being denied their vote due to suppression.

 

[OKTexas]

All it takes is a few votes to change an outcome. Even one persons’ vote being washed out by an illegal vote is one too many and outrageous.
DOJ Charges Nearly Two Dozen Illegal Aliens for Voting in the 2016 Election

Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

.

Most states already require ID to vote.

Next whine...?

The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.

Same way you need to register to purchase a firearm, which is also a constitutionally protected right. The problem for the brain-dead right is that we already have such requirements for voting at the state level and they can’t find adequate proof that illegal voting is anywhere near as rampant as they claim to warrant such an outrageous stunt as a federal voter ID.

Shit, even Republicans are against it as they could have submitted such legislation at anytime during the 6½ years while the controlled both chambers of Congress and the Executive branch in recent times — and they chose not to.

But we were told there were millions of illegal votes?

Those nearly two dozen were documented, lawful permanent residents. They likely shouldnt have voted, but they're not illegal aliens.

Far bigger problem is legitimate US citizens being denied their vote due to suppression.

Yep, all theses record turnouts are just a figment of my imagination. God you people are stupid.

.

 

[protectionist]

But we were told there were millions of illegal votes?

Those nearly two dozen were documented, lawful permanent residents. They likely shouldnt have voted, but they're not illegal aliens.

Far bigger problem is legitimate US citizens being denied their vote due to suppression.

1, As I said earlier, I've stated there were 9 million aliens voted illegally in 2016, and this far, nobody here has refuted that.

2. All aliens are illegal for voting.

3. The idea of >> "legitimate US citizens being denied their vote due to suppression" is silly. The US Supreme Court shot this myth down,

(Ohio’s voter roll cleanup law case),​

and so​

did the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in Texas. The people who make this claim have had their day in court on both federal and state levels, and they lost both times.

Instances of Voter Fraud Continue to Mount, Further Compromising Our Elections

 

[OKTexas]

But we were told there were millions of illegal votes?

Those nearly two dozen were documented, lawful permanent residents. They likely shouldnt have voted, but they're not illegal aliens.

Far bigger problem is legitimate US citizens being denied their vote due to suppression.

1, As I said earlier, I've stated there were 9 million aliens voted illegally in 2016, and this far, nobody here has refuted that.

2. All aliens are illegal for voting.

3. The idea of >> "legitimate US citizens being denied their vote due to suppression" is silly. The US Supreme Court shot this myth down, and so did the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in Texas. The people who make this claim have had their day in court on both federal and state levels, and they lost both times.

Instances of Voter Fraud Continue to Mount, Further Compromising Our Elections

5th Circuit is in New Orleans.

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[Faun]

Who cares what a senile old fart like you “explains?” I gave you the link to the BEA’s chart on GDP growth and it shows what I said is true.

HA HA. I never doubted the chart, but I explained to you the reason why Obama doesn't get credit for the years 2009-2015. You just blindly deny. Not my problem.

Your conservative explanations are quite humorous.

 

[protectionist]

5th Circuit is in New Orleans.

In this Heritage Foundation article >> Instances of Voter Fraud Continue to Mount, Further Compromising Our Elections

It is stated >>

"Many on the left oppose these policies because they say such laws are intended to discriminate against racial minorities.

But in a recent case that challenged Texas’ voter identification law, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals held there is no evidence showing voter identification laws are discriminatory toward minorities.

In that case, the 5th Circuit upheld a Texas law enforcing photo identification requirements and rejected claims the state was intentionally discriminating against minorities. There was no evidence to support such a claim, and Judge Edith Jones stated that such accusations “rel[y] on incorrect presumptions of taint and invalidity … presuming, without proof” that these measures were implemented based on “invidious intent.” In fact, as Heritage scholar Hans von Spakovsky showed in a study, minority turnout increased after Texas adopted voter ID."

 

[Faun]

You posted a debunked article.

That you posted it demonstrates you don’t bother to check what you post before you post it.

That you continue to post it even after being shown it was debunked demonstrates you are willing to argue debunked nonsense.

NOBODY, including you, has debunked what that article said about 3 million illegal aliens voting, or what I said about 9 million of them voting. This is the 3rd time I've told you that. You need help.

Nothing about that was ever proven true. Despite being challenged to back his claim, Gregg Phillips never did. I understand in conserva-la-la-land, claims you hold dear to your heart need no evidence, but no one besides conservatives are dumb enough to believe that:

 

[protectionist]

Your conservative explanations are quite humorous.

Thanks, but I have no interest in the scattered distortions of the liberal mind.

 

[Faun]

I got as far as your first link to see you were posting bullshit.

You said that 10 times already - your admission that you haven't read the links. Are you like 11 years old ?

Because you keep talking about how you’ve proven something; when in fact, you post bullshit.