The Post-Trump GOP

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The party is so afraid of Trump, in fact, that they're not even engaging in the traditional post-mortem for fear of angering him. Holy crap.

Couldnt you at least be honest and admit that the corrupt Old Boy RINOs are really afraid of trump voters?

Well, in your world, in your reality, those would definitely be "the corrupt Old Boy RINOs", sure.

I wouldn't try to convince you of anything outside of your world. Stipulated.

Why? Because you're incapable of persuasion or making your case?

I agree.

 

[Mac1958]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are not specifically provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Good gawd, ease up on the psycho throttle a little. You're just a caricature at this point.

Okay.

Name ONE liberal still left in the Dem party.

Liz Warren

That bitch is an authoritarian commie fuck.

Even Mac would agree on that point.

 

[Mac1958]

The party is so afraid of Trump, in fact, that they're not even engaging in the traditional post-mortem for fear of angering him. Holy crap.

Couldnt you at least be honest and admit that the corrupt Old Boy RINOs are really afraid of trump voters?

Well, in your world, in your reality, those would definitely be "the corrupt Old Boy RINOs", sure.

I wouldn't try to convince you of anything outside of your world. Stipulated.

Why? Because you're incapable of persuasion or making your case?

I agree.

Sure, okay. Again, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

 

[Mac1958]

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Good gawd, ease up on the psycho throttle a little. You're just a caricature at this point.

Okay.

Name ONE liberal still left in the Dem party.

Liz Warren

That bitch is an authoritarian commie fuck.

Even Mac would agree on that point.

Um, no.

 

[rightwinger]

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Good gawd, ease up on the psycho throttle a little. You're just a caricature at this point.

Okay.

Name ONE liberal still left in the Dem party.

Liz Warren

That bitch is an authoritarian commie fuck.

Even Mac would agree on that point.

A true American who defends We the People
As Liberal as they come

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

Will you spare us the "alternate universe" cop out.

NAME ONE FUCKING LIBERAL DEMOCRAT STILL LEFT!!!

 

[candycorn]

The GOP will have no problem trotting out the Anti-Trump in 2024 if they think he can win the Presidency. Consistency is a foreign concept to them.

You mean we actually aren’t so duped that we can change our views? You mean we don’t worship the Party and bow dow to whatever they say? Yeah, that is true. This is was Democrats do. They would vote for the devil himself if he had a D beside his name. Heck, they essentially voted for Kamala Harris. That is just how duped and partisan the left is. Even Democratic Supreme Court justices aren’t immune to the mind-meld of the Party. They vote lock-step. EVERY TIME. Sheep, all of you Democrats.

Change your views? No...you change your principles and ethics to fit whatever the situation is. Remember back when you guys were about family values? Now you think paying off a porn star is fine. Remember when you were deficit hawks? Now running up $8T in debt is fine. Remember when you were for free Trade? Anti-Russia? wouldn't negotiate with terrorists? Now you've gone back on all of that.

 

[Mac1958]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

Will you spare us the "alternate universe" cop out.

NAME ONE FUCKING LIBERAL DEMOCRAT STILL LEFT!!!

None, in your world. You're right. In your world.

 

[BrokeLoser]

“I really hope this party comes back to its senses.”
And realize what? That they have the most popular, most desired politician of all time on their side?

You mean that politician who just lost the election with a margin of 7 million votes and handles losing worse than the average six year old?

Yeah, the almost dead dude wearing the Depends, the dude who can’t fill a small parking lot with supporters.

How many Republicans have garnered 74,000,000 LEGITIMATE votes?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Good gawd, ease up on the psycho throttle a little. You're just a caricature at this point.

Okay.

Name ONE liberal still left in the Dem party.

Liz Warren

That bitch is an authoritarian commie fuck.

Even Mac would agree on that point.

Um, no.

Who lives in the alternate universe now?

Here. Read:
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/elizabeth-warren/

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

Will you spare us the "alternate universe" cop out.

NAME ONE FUCKING LIBERAL DEMOCRAT STILL LEFT!!!

None, in your world. You're right. In your world.

Yeah, so name one IN YOUR FUCKED UP WORLD!!!

You can't. Because you are dishonest.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Good gawd, ease up on the psycho throttle a little. You're just a caricature at this point.

Okay.

Name ONE liberal still left in the Dem party.

Liz Warren

That bitch is an authoritarian commie fuck.

Even Mac would agree on that point.

Um, no.

The phrase you didn't build that came from her.

 

[Bernhard]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

Yeah, I have a vague idea about this problem ... over here in Germany, we have such a faction as well. Fortunately, it's still relatively small, the only party that panders to them and fuels their ideas is the far-right AfD, but it only gets around 10% of the votes and is shunned by all other parties, including the moderate right. Hope it stays that way.

But it's really scary to imagine they might rise in numbers. You got them siding with conspiracy ideologues denying Covid, watching racist anti-immigrant fake news online and watching Russian propaganda like RT News that rallys them up against our free, republican system. Really disgusting.

I'd call them what they are, traitors, but the problem is that won't bring us any further and will convince none of them.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What's next for the GOP?

A couple of very interesting pieces this morning. Interestingly, much of what they cover includes what we've been talking about here. The anti-Trump types like the Lincoln Project know damn well that he has a vice-like grip on the party, and will even have to consider running separate candidates, which we haven't really talked about here. The party is so afraid of Trump, in fact, that they're not even engaging in the traditional post-mortem for fear of angering him. Holy crap.

At the same time, they did do better than expected down ticket (or was it the Democrats doing worse than expected?), so that just muddies the waters even more. So what do the next few years look like for the GOP?

Never-Trump movement splinters as its villain heads for the exit

"Is there a market for an anti-Trump Republican Party now?” said one prominent member of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. “I would say no.”

www.politico.com

‘Everything’s great’: GOP ditches election post-mortems

Mitt Romney lost by 5 million votes in 2012 and sparked a 100-page RNC autopsy report. Donald Trump lost by 7 million and there isn’t a peep.

www.politico.com

Oh, for Trumpsters: Ignore all this, he won, "by a lot", they cheated, he'll stay in office, MAGA.

Trump is the GOP.

the GOTP, the Grand Old Trump Party.

The White Grievance Party.

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

Will you spare us the "alternate universe" cop out.

NAME ONE FUCKING LIBERAL DEMOCRAT STILL LEFT!!!

None, in your world. You're right. In your world.

Yeah, so name one IN YOUR FUCKED UP WORLD!!!

You can't. Because you are dishonest.

He wants the fairness act back so only one side is heard. It upsets him when people find out the truth

 

[Mac-7]

Well, in your world, in your reality, those would definitely be "the corrupt Old Boy RINOs", sure.

Either way you are misrepresenting the situation because being honest would rain on your hate-trump parade

the slimy GOP bastards are afraid of angering trump voters who number 74 million plus

 

[Bernhard]

“I really hope this party comes back to its senses.”
And realize what? That they have the most popular, most desired politician of all time on their side?

You mean that politician who just lost the election with a margin of 7 million votes and handles losing worse than the average six year old?

Yeah, the almost dead dude wearing the Depends, the dude who can’t fill a small parking lot with supporters.

How many Republicans have garnered 74,000,000 LEGITIMATE votes?

Those who ran against a Democrat who garnered 81,000,000 legitimate votes.

 

[Mac1958]

This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

You're describing the WHOLE FUCKING PARTY.

There are no more liberals in the Dem party. They all bailed. It's a goose-stepping commie fest.

Guess if you took the effort of actually talking with some Democrats, you'd probably realize many of them are decent human beings, rather than the silly caricatures the Trump fake news machine wants you to believe they are.

Considering how many Reps still cling to Trump and fail to defend the Constitution against Trump's attempts to piss on it, looks like they're in lockstep to me... but I'm pretty sure there must still be many decent people among them. It's just about time they finally speak up again.

They can't do that. I don't know how familiar you are with the alternate universe they have created, but they are conditioned to avoid / ignore / dismiss anything they are provided in their ideological ecosystem as "fake news" and "commie lies". This alternate universe is now entirely self-sustaining and fully functional. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world has another.

I'm being dead serious. This is what we're dealing with here.

Yeah, I have a vague idea about this problem ... over here in Germany, we have such a faction as well. Fortunately, it's still relatively small, the only party that panders to them and fuels their ideas is the far-right AfD, but it only gets around 10% of the votes and is shunned by all other parties, including the moderate right. Hope it stays that way.

But it's really scary to imagine they might rise in numbers. You got them siding with conspiracy ideologues denying Covid, watching racist anti-immigrant fake news online and watching Russian propaganda like RT News that rallys them up against our free, republican system. Really disgusting.

I'd call them what they are, traitors, but the problem is that won't bring us any further and will convince none of them.

Well, try to look at us as a cautionary tale. You went through the 30s and 40s with something similar in a few ways. You made it, but not before a great deal of damage was done. It's difficult for many of us to understand how this is happening. We thought that history taught us something.

I have a brother who lives in London, and as goofy as things are there now, he's just stunned by what he's seeing coming from us. We're in regression right now, and we have to find a way past this. Soon.

 

[bripat9643]

Republicans are being short sighted

Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.

But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever

I think the Republicans are very capable of alienating conservatives if they put their mind to it.

The Late John McCain and Mitt Romney were tremendous in doing that. But the key of the LP folks is to expel the base from the Republican Party so they can reassert control.

John McCain was a Maverick. He would back his party but when given a choice between party and his state, he would do what was in the best interest of his state.

Romney is a devout Mormon. As such, he is repulsed by Trump and his antics. He votes accordingly

McCain was willing to betray his party for good press. He thought that would get him in the White House.


But you people turned on his, on a dime. Because everything you say, is a bullshit. so reversing course is easy for you.


That you took him back afterwards, and that he accepted that, is him being a broken old man.

McCain backed Republicans on Trumpcare, he voted for it.

However, when Republicans pivoted and went to a blind repeal of Obamacare without anything to cover those who would lose coverage......He gave a thumbs down

Bunk. He opposed it to fuck Trump.

Really?
Then why did he vote FOR Trumpcare?

That would have been the bigger victory

Why did he vote for it before he voted against it?

Simple: he's a douchebag.